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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 00:08:00
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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This is a kombikit - you can can build a ten-men Breacher or a ten-men Strike Team from it.
It is hard to make out but the kit has either 210 or 310 (unlikely) parts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 00:10:48
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Warhams-77 wrote:This is a kombikit - you can can build a ten-men Breacher or a ten-men Strike Team from it.
It is hard to make out but the kit has either 210 or 310 (unlikely) parts.
Nice, thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 02:32:42
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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Hm, not impressed with breachers. Do we have rules for the field amp relay though? Hoping it increases the range on those blasters or something.
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bittersashes wrote:One guy down at my gaming club swore he saw an objective flag take out a full unit of Bane Thralls.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 02:38:39
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Douglas Bader
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Warhams-77 wrote:Wasnt 12 mostly because of the old sprue designs? Like Khorne Berserkers and other kits from that GW era?
Edit: They did the same with Eldar Guardians and Jetbikes e.g.
And because Tau use base-8 numbers. A 12-man Tau unit is the equivalent of a 15-man human unit, and a 4-man Tau unit is the equivalent of a 5-man human unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 02:40:22
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Amazing that GW is actually making non-Imperial terrain. Must have noticed sales of these 3rd party guys and decided they're tired of missing out on sales.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 02:58:06
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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Wolfblade wrote:Hm, not impressed with breachers. Do we have rules for the field amp relay though? Hoping it increases the range on those blasters or something.
It means that hey get a 5++ from the shield projector drone as apposed to a 6++
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 02:58:38
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Requizen wrote: pretre wrote: Bulldogging wrote:I'm surprised they haven't leaked the rules yet.
Has there ever been a fortification that is faction restricted?
It'll be hilarious if it isn't faction specific. 
Well to be fair, nearly every single Fortification up til this point has been Imperial themed and not restricted to IoM armies. If you play Xenos and you don't scratch build, you're spending lots of time filing off Imperial Aquilas.
Now you can just glue them on the new Tau fort!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 05:10:09
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I want to know if those FW are just the old kits, or come from a new kit.
If so, I am going to use the new look for all FW in the future, I love the breacher look too much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 05:13:19
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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Its a combi kit, with FW and Breachers
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It's a combi kit with firewarriors and breachers
thers another pic of the FW on a black background one or two pages back
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 05:19:18
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Peregrine wrote:Warhams-77 wrote:Wasnt 12 mostly because of the old sprue designs? Like Khorne Berserkers and other kits from that GW era?
Edit: They did the same with Eldar Guardians and Jetbikes e.g.
And because Tau use base-8 numbers. A 12-man Tau unit is the equivalent of a 15-man human unit, and a 4-man Tau unit is the equivalent of a 5-man human unit.
Well they have 'XV-9' and 'XV-10' suits nowadays so is that really true anymore?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 05:22:58
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
Los Angeles, CA
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They are all Fire Warriors, just some are Strikers and some are Breachers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 05:57:07
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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ImAGeek wrote: Peregrine wrote:Warhams-77 wrote:Wasnt 12 mostly because of the old sprue designs? Like Khorne Berserkers and other kits from that GW era?
Edit: They did the same with Eldar Guardians and Jetbikes e.g.
And because Tau use base-8 numbers. A 12-man Tau unit is the equivalent of a 15-man human unit, and a 4-man Tau unit is the equivalent of a 5-man human unit.
Well they have 'XV-9' and 'XV-10' suits nowadays so is that really true anymore?
They still have the numbers 9 and 10, they just would write them 11 (pronounced one-one) and 12 (one-two).That was sort of a joke around the XV9s, they were taken up to "11".
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 06:12:40
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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ImAGeek wrote: Peregrine wrote:Warhams-77 wrote:Wasnt 12 mostly because of the old sprue designs? Like Khorne Berserkers and other kits from that GW era?
Edit: They did the same with Eldar Guardians and Jetbikes e.g.
And because Tau use base-8 numbers. A 12-man Tau unit is the equivalent of a 15-man human unit, and a 4-man Tau unit is the equivalent of a 5-man human unit.
Well they have 'XV-9' and 'XV-10' suits nowadays so is that really true anymore?
Just a reminder about the Tau naming, all of them are Imperium designations. XV is just what Her’ex’vre sounds like in Low Gothic and how it was transcribed. Her’ex’vre actually means "Mantel of the Hero", though Xenos Inquisitors would rather not call Tau Battlesuits hero mantels. All the ocean style names and number designation are human invented, which is why the numbering goes to 10.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 06:39:44
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Why can't we have a codex by Tau for Tau... I mean the Gue'la can do some work and publish some pamphlets for the IOM to read up on, so that we can have more fluffy things D:
But yea, none base ten systems are the devil.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 07:06:36
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Fresh-Faced New User
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As a new player only 2 weeks in I bought a squad of pathfinders and started painting them. Eagerly awaiting the codex so I can find out what I need and should put in my army.
Those firewarriors look awesome and the missile drone is cool col as hell. Cannot wait to field them. Is there a chance anyone knows the new weapons.
They need to come sooner! Cant really play a game with 1 squad of pathfinders, darkstrider and a devilfish :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 07:11:42
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Spencley wrote:As a new player only 2 weeks in I bought a squad of pathfinders and started painting them. Eagerly awaiting the codex so I can find out what I need and should put in my army.
Those firewarriors look awesome and the missile drone is cool col as hell. Cannot wait to field them. Is there a chance anyone knows the new weapons.
They need to come sooner! Cant really play a game with 1 squad of pathfinders, darkstrider and a devilfish :(
The new Fire Warriors look really nice, they added a lot of detail and fixed the sculpts hopefully. The stock of the guns now has ribbing and the backpack looks like it has things attached to it as opposed to being one solid piece, which is nice.
As for the new troop choice we have, along with the new drone, and missile turret, you can find it here: http://imgur.com/a/yxtaw
The rules for the Ghostkeel and Stormsurge have been spoiled too. Though really until we know how other things have changed, it's still too hard to make a decision. Really, I know your pain, as I just came back to the game myself and feel a horrible apathy when it comes to crafting my list because I simply don't know what to do with it. I want a Skyray, as the current stats are awesome, but what if it gets changed?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 11:19:04
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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Co'tor Shas wrote: Wolfblade wrote:Hm, not impressed with breachers. Do we have rules for the field amp relay though? Hoping it increases the range on those blasters or something.
It means that hey get a 5++ from the shield projector drone as apposed to a 6++
Damn. Honestly, I can't see myself picking up any then, way too short range, especially if pulse rifles remain the same (which I can't imagine them being changed).
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bittersashes wrote:One guy down at my gaming club swore he saw an objective flag take out a full unit of Bane Thralls.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 12:52:54
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Huge Hierodule
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Nilok wrote: ImAGeek wrote: Peregrine wrote:Warhams-77 wrote:Wasnt 12 mostly because of the old sprue designs? Like Khorne Berserkers and other kits from that GW era?
Edit: They did the same with Eldar Guardians and Jetbikes e.g.
And because Tau use base-8 numbers. A 12-man Tau unit is the equivalent of a 15-man human unit, and a 4-man Tau unit is the equivalent of a 5-man human unit.
Well they have 'XV-9' and 'XV-10' suits nowadays so is that really true anymore?
Just a reminder about the Tau naming, all of them are Imperium designations. XV is just what Her’ex’vre sounds like in Low Gothic and how it was transcribed. Her’ex’vre actually means "Mantel of the Hero", though Xenos Inquisitors would rather not call Tau Battlesuits hero mantels. All the ocean style names and number designation are human invented, which is why the numbering goes to 10.
So XV is Her'ex'Vre, Mantle of the Hero. I remember that. What do KV, KX, TX, and TY translate to, both in Tau language and Low Gothic (english)?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 12:58:42
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Tunneling Trygon
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Tinkrr wrote:Why can't we have a codex by Tau for Tau... I mean the Gue'la can do some work and publish some pamphlets for the IOM to read up on, so that we can have more fluffy things D:
Because 40k, increasingly, is written from the perspective of the IoM.
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Hive Fleet Aquarius 2-1-0
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 13:06:46
Subject: Re:Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
Denmark.
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Just spotted it - Stealth Suits have 32mm bases now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 13:13:25
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Spencley wrote:As a new player only 2 weeks in I bought a squad of pathfinders and started painting them. Eagerly awaiting the codex so I can find out what I need and should put in my army.
Those firewarriors look awesome and the missile drone is cool col as hell. Cannot wait to field them. Is there a chance anyone knows the new weapons.
They need to come sooner! Cant really play a game with 1 squad of pathfinders, darkstrider and a devilfish :(
I would be really surprised if you don't get access to a Formation that is two or three squads of Pathfinders with a 0-1 choice of Darkstrider.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 13:35:38
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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As long as they are not mandatory part of the "decurion" base.
I hate them. I'll never bring myself to play pathfinders. drones and tetras all the way for me!
Co'tor Shas wrote: Wolfblade wrote:Hm, not impressed with breachers. Do we have rules for the field amp relay though? Hoping it increases the range on those blasters or something.
It means that hey get a 5++ from the shield projector drone as apposed to a 6++
Actually, that's the drone's rules.
We know not if it also does something else on its own, for example it might bring a 6++ to begin with (making breachers a tad more appealing)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 14:55:43
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Nilok wrote:
Just a reminder about the Tau naming, all of them are Imperium designations. XV is just what Her’ex’vre sounds like in Low Gothic and how it was transcribed. Her’ex’vre actually means "Mantel of the Hero", though Xenos Inquisitors would rather not call Tau Battlesuits hero mantels. All the ocean style names and number designation are human invented, which is why the numbering goes to 10.
All true, and the same story who worked in both the GW design studio and eventually at Forgeworld. In all honesty, to me it has always seemed like this part of the Tau background is very loosely delineated between how How the Tau empire designates their units and how the imperium delineates them. Though I would not be at all surpised to see GW or FW background material where the Tau refer to their wargear using the Imperium nomenclature. It gets tricksey to refer to an alien race using only the language of ONE of their opposing races.
not saying that's good or bad. a little mystery/ambiguity is healthy to let the audienece fill in the blanks, but it leads to difficulty in creating consistent background material.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 15:01:40
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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tetrisphreak wrote:
So XV is Her'ex'Vre, Mantle of the Hero. I remember that. What do KV, KX, TX, and TY translate to, both in Tau language and Low Gothic (english)?
We don't know. I assume that they just took the designation and ran with it.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 15:08:42
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Shade of Despair and Torment
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Tinkrr wrote:Why can't we have a codex by Tau for Tau... I mean the Gue'la can do some work and publish some pamphlets for the IOM to read up on, so that we can have more fluffy things D:
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Agreed! That's why when I play my German SS force in both FOM & also my other SS force in Bolt Action, I only use the German Language publications, and speak German while gaming!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 15:48:33
Subject: Re:Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Just view it as a translation.
The XV88 is the XV1010 in Tau. Why would you translate the letters but not the numbers?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 16:14:19
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Field amp doesnt have its own ruleset. Its only mentioned with the Guardian Drone as conferring a 5++ instead of a 6++ to the unit. One would imagine it would give the drone a 4++ but it doesnt say that. Which is why we are speculating its a standard drone now anybody can get, but only the Breachers (as of right now anyway) can get better than a 6++ from the drone. Tell ya one thing though, if anybody can take this drone im sneaking one into every single unit. 6++ for 12pts for the whole squad is dope. And considering Precision Shots are much less rare these days, getting the droned sniped is unlikely. Unlike the Ork's 6++ FNP for 5pts EACH, 12pts for a unit wide 6++ invul is verrrry worth it. changemod wrote:Just view it as a translation. The XV88 is the XV1010 in Tau. Why would you translate the letters but not the numbers? Because the Imperium are a bunch of elitist idiots. When stupidity is involved, there is no need for a reason.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 16:18:51
Subject: Re:Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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Never mind, I'm dumb.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 16:25:49
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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That depends on the original source.
If its one number, sure. If it is more like " 8, 8", then it would be like 1010, but Tau may be done differently.
For instance, if you look an an RGB of A1A1A1, in decimal its 161161161.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 16:37:06
Subject: Tau Rumors: New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? P13 for Pics. P37 for Stormsurge rules. P55 for Transfer Sh
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So anyway, codex pics yet?
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