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Hello all !

Hunter Contingent
Consists of:
0-1 Command
1+ Basic
1-10 Auxiliaries

0-1 Command:
- 1 Commander or Shadowsun
- 0-1 Ethereal or Aun'va or Aun'shi
- 1-2 Crisis bodyguards

1+ Basic (Hunder Cadre):
1 Commander
0-1 Fireblade
0-1 Crisis Bodyguards
3-6 Strike, Breacher or Kroot
1-3 Stealth Suits, Ghostkeels, Riptides or Crisis.
1-3 Pathfinders, Piranhas, Vespid, Drones
1-3 Broadsides, Hammerhead, Stormsurge, Sniper

1-10 Auxiliaries:
Retallion Cadre
- 1 Commander
- 3 units of Crisis
- 1 Broadside unit
- 1 Riptide unit
Rules: Relentless
+1 BS when Deep striking
May choose to enter from reserves in turn 2 via Deep Strike. This includes Broadsides.

Heavy Retribution Cadre
- 2 Stormsurges
- 3 Ghostkeels
Rules: If target is at 12" or less from the Ghostkeel, reroll to hit. It two units of the formation, shoot at the same target, target unit cannot run or move flat out next turn, and assault distance is halved (rounded down)

Infiltration Cadre
- 3 Pathfinder units
- 2 Stealth battlesuit units
- 1 Piranha unit
Rules: If one unit of the formation is destroyed, rest of the formation enters from reserve next turn automatically.
If an enemy unit gets hit by 3 or more markerights from this formation, you get a free Seeker missile hit to this unit.

Optimised Stealth Cadre
- 1 Ghostkeel
- 2 Stealth Suit units
Rules: Ghostkeels and any Stealth Battlesuit unit in the formation at 6" of the Ghostkeel ignore cover, add +1 to BS and hit vehicles in the rear

Firebase Support Cadre
- 2 units of battlesuits
- 1 unit Riptides
Note that they do not have to be max size like before
Rules: They formation can combine their shooting attacks and shoot as a single unit. When doing so, they get Tank and monster hunter SR.

Armored Interdiction Cadre
- 3 Units of Hammerheads
- 1 Unit of Sky Rays
Rules: Choose a point in the battlefield. When shooting to a unit at 6" or less from this point, reroll to hit.
Air Support Cadre
- 1 Sun Shark Bomber
- 1 Razorshark Strike Fighter
Rules: Ignore shaken and stunned with 2+.
Beginning of the turn, roll a D6 for each lost hull point. If you roll a 6, recover 1 HP.

Allied Advanced Cadre
- 4 units of Kroot
- 2 units of Vespids
Rules: Vespids get Infiltration and Stealth (Forests)
Kroot at 12" from Vespid units, get Obscured (Forests) instead of Stealth (Forests), and get +1 BS
They all get supporting fire with other units of the formation.

Rules for Hunter Cadre:
- Supporting Fire at 12"
- Can run and the shoot. In this order.

Rules for Hunter Contingent:
- Reroll Warlord trait
- Units can combine their shooting attacks, and shoot as if they were a single unit. So they can get benefit from special rules and the same markerlight, for example. This is really, really powerful.

Other Changes:
- Fire Team SR - +1 BS when 3 or more models in the same unit fire at the same target (or is it maximum squad size?)
- Sky Rays/Hammerheads can now be taken in Squadrons of 1-3
- Riptides can be taken in units of 1-3
- Destroyer Missiles count as Strength D with the expenditure of a Markerlight

Summary
‘Fire Team’ Special Rule: Unit gains +1BS if unit size is 3 models during Shooting Phase. Applies only to Riptides, Ghostkeels, Hammerheads, and Skyrays.

Signature Systems: Appear to be the same as before.

Experimental Weapons: No longer a thing, Cyclic Ion Blaster and Air-Frag Launcher now standard weapons

Crisis Bodyguards: Now an Elites choice (?)

Crisis Team: Gain ‘Fire Team’ Special Rule

Stealth Team: Still an Elites choice, no apparent changes.

Kroot Carnivore Squad: No apparent changes.

Hammerhead Gunship: Available in Squadrons of 1-3, gain ‘Fire Team’ Special Rule

Skyray Gunship: Available in Squadrons of 1-3, gain ‘Fire Team’ Special Rule

Crisis Battlesuit Commander: Coldstar Battlesuit loses access to Signature Systems, can take two Support Systems in addition to fixed wargear.

Riptide: Now available in Squadrons (Teams?) of 1-3, gain ‘Fire Team’ Special Rule. Nova Reactor works as before, each Riptide in the unit rolls separately and may choose different effects if they want.

Broadside Team: Gain the ‘Fire Team’ Special Rule, Heavy Rail Rifle remains the same.

Stormsurge: 1 Markerlight token upgrades 1 Destroyer Missile from S8 to SD









Wulfson_40K wrote:
Hi and pleased to join you during these Tau releases.

Following info was posted on Warseer by Archibald_TK. So before one of the mods there goes berserk and burns everything because there are points displayed I'm copying it in a safe place, namely here:

- Commander (apparently with a drone) - 40€, 30£, 50$
- Crisis Battelsuits (3 suits + 6 drones) - 60€, 45£, 75$
- Drones (2 drones) - 9€, 7.7£, 12$
- Warzone Damocles: Kauyon (campaign book) - 60€, 45£, 74$
- Codex Tau (128p) - 39€, 30£, 49.5$
- Tau cards, Raven Guard! cards, also White Scars cards!! for some reason - each 10.5€, 8£, 13.5$

- Commander is 85pts base. Coldstar has no particular rules compared to a Crisis so no +1T sorry. The high yield canon is crap (or should I say crap for that model), 18" S5 AP5 Assault6 TL.
- Crisis suits kit contain 4 of each weapon (except only 3 missiles). Iridium armor is still in the Codex, you can build one of such suits per kit (it the red one we saw in the pictures).
- Kauyon's pictures show two formations: the awesome Shadowstrike Kill Team (2-4 Scouts + 1-5 Vanguards, you chose to fail or succeed reserve rolls for the Vanguards, they don't scatter within 9" of the scouts, they can charge the turn they DS) and Pinion Battle Demi-Company (like a demi company but with scouts that help reserves by accompanying other units to allow them to do a flank attack and can give ignore cover to an unit with 9")
- Codex pictures show 80pts Devilfish and 44pts Pathfinders (minimum unit size of 4)


He's not a rumour guy but a WD guy, acceptable accuracy I'd say. But it's hard to mess up when you're reading a book in front of you I suppose :p








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Howdy Guys and Girls

Tau are back in October, with new Firewarriors, Riptide variants and the XV95 suit!

October 10 is the release date of:

- XV95 Ghostkeel (stealth suit)
- XV128 Stormsurge (missile suit)

thanks @ https://twitter.com/TheRedSorcerer/status/643841344021135360/photo/1

regards,
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From Lords of Wargaming:
PENDING Tau Rumors - June 2015
Here are some parting truths about Tau:
They will have a new Fire Warrior box. Two types of units can be made.
New Crisis Suits
More commander suits
New Riptide sized Suit that has large missiles
Looks like a Tau Aegis Defense line with circular weapon platforms.
Don't know about the rules, so don't ask.


From Warhound on ATT:
PENDING Tau Rumors - June 2015
EDIT#
Sorry dude... I mixed my wires/ threads up...

Basically Blake Spence and Daren Parrwood are the ringleaders of the Tau sculptors for FW....
Last year i managed to bend the ears of them both and Alan Bligh (rules writer and fluff meister) about the next evolution... They basically believe that their commonly held strategies ( Mont'ka and Kauyon) are not the only ones to exist/ explore... They wish to shift our paradigm...

The Devilfish chassis they believe to be lacking ( hence the TL turrets being pulled) and so are considering a few concepts of which i was excited to hear...

ALSO and bigger news is that they believe the XV-109 to be only the first of a wave of evolution....
Behold! The Tau Knight class titan!:-D
The XV-109 is the half way house to meeting the threat of the knights ( hence generally needing 2 to take 1 knight down)... We are getting bigger toys!

After the sporadic chats we have had, i am looking to a more SWAT/SAS Element to them... Rapid drop insertion with some techy punch... And with a possible GW twin purpose box set coming, would tie in nicely...

Hope this explains more...?

Cheers
Warhound

PENDING Tau Rumors - July 2015
So.. lots of talk... but here is the down low...

I managed to bend Mr.Hayes (Will- the designer) ear for the 1st 45 mins of the event, and as always he was kind enough to go through some of their design thought processes as well as the rational behind the "Supremacy" Suit...

As mentioned before.. Alan Bligh, alongside Daren Parrwood and Blake Spence are all keen to develope the Tau War Paradigm beyond that of just the Kauyon and Mont'au strategies... this is leading to not just this suit, but also a likely Superheavy Skimmer/ Tank that is a more suitable heavy platform, but on a scale for the long lost Orca.
*We can expect a new IA book in the first (hopeful) part of next year, which will make our suits non-experimental rules also!

The KX is the Tau's answer to the increasing number of Gargantuan Creature and Knight/ titans that they are encountering across their borders.
The rational is that the likes of the Tigershark, whilst dominating the skies, do not have the capability to take these foe down, due to 'time on target'... they needed something that could go toe to toe with a knight and win.
The success of the Y'varha and R'varnha units has given them the proof and belief in their own ability to develop their strength in the mobile suit arena and therefore decided to bring this to the fore.

In regards to rules- There are none written as yet... however I can confirm this...

The tracked mounting on the back does indeed house 3 "Rail" type weapons.. all independantly poseable. The current thinking is that while it is a Rail weapon for all intents and purposes, it will have a multi role purpose:
D- shot: had to happen.. they need something to take the knights down.
Armour spiltter: Multi shot mode which is designed to rip SP/HP's off their target.
Bombardment style: allowing the KX to literally carpet bomb from afar

The brace of triple Ion-cannons on each arm, they are unsure of whether it will be x3 shots or perhaps rapid fire...

This WILL be a Super Heavy walker. It is commanded by 3 crewmen (note the 3 vision slits on the chest). As such it will be able to fire ALL its weapons, and at seperate targets.
Special abilities: it will be able to Snap fire/ overwatch unlike other super heavies, due to a pumped up CDS system.
No flight- but as it is a SHW, will have 12" move as standard.
No NOVA: as Alan described, due to the size of it, their would be adequate shielding to in essence, "be constantly on Nova"... therefore keeping the rules set simpler.

In addition to the current load out, Will is already working on a brace of triple barrelled Fusion style weapons and also some ideas to replace the back mounted Rail weapons.... Missile racks, comms pods etc.......

One final note is that Mark Bedford is keen to work on an official Earthcaste Pilot model.. I suggested that he does it as the "event only" model, which he seemed to like (and would mean it would be more likely to get released).... there were 2 pages of sketches which were similar to the Longstrike style suit, but cooler helmets;-)

I think that covers all....

As I say, they have not even started the rules writing yet, and so other sites reporting scuttlebutt of Gargantuan creatures stats and specific rules are making it up..... the above was described by all 3 designers and the rules designer himself.

oh- and it is complete, and off to the mould makers, so I would imagine we will see this in the next 2-3 months (not got a release slot yet)... price will be some where in the region of £225 as it is between the size of a knight and a Warhound titan...

cheers all!

Warhound

ps: sorry I missed you Bitterman!


 Vector Strike wrote:
New stuff for us, guys!

http://imgur.com/a/gXO2q

An ENORMOUS battlesuit!

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Well, scenery that isn't IoM is always good! Though this doesn't seem to be a likely June release since vanilla astartes and Dark Angels are up this month. As well as a rumoured WHFB revamp soon after that.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
4+ new kits? That hasn't been the MO lately.

Yeah, my bs detector is ticking. That being said, LoW had a good rating before they announced their retirement:

Lords of Wargaming - Total rumors: (38 TRUE) / (3 FALSE) / (2 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE) - RETIRED?

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Maybe they saw a dramatic uptick in sales after the 6th Tau book was released. They won't equate the rules being strong with that though. People just like Tau more than the weaker books narrative wise...

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Cool. Would like to see what new fire warriors could look like.
   
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The fire warrior box desperately needs an upgrade. Some of the worst plastic molding I have ever seen.

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I hope it's true, I need everything they said was going to release haha.
   
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Very interesting, thanks for pointing that out, Pretre


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 angelofvengeance wrote:
Well, scenery that isn't IoM is always good! Though this doesn't seem to be a likely June release since vanilla astartes and Dark Angels are up this month. As well as a rumoured WHFB revamp soon after that.


June is not the date of the relase but Pretre's tracker info when this was posted



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My bad pretre- misunderstood the post!

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 Eldarain wrote:
Maybe they saw a dramatic uptick in sales after the 6th Tau book was released. They won't equate the rules being strong with that though. People just like Tau more than the weaker books narrative wise...


Nothing to do with the decades since the last book and model release either.

Nope, nope, nope.

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GW, I promise you. If you release new Crisis Suits I will buy 6 boxes to replace my current suits.



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These mentioned are mostly old models (pre-2005), the list makes a lot of sense The release wouldn't be much bigger than the Ork one last year - which had more character models but no terrain. I don't see much BS possibility here after checking the Ork release list from 2014

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?297915-Games-Workshop-40K-Release-Timeline-%28Mk-II%29
   
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Aren't most 2-type kits 5-man boxes?
Hope it's link the Tactical Squad box, not Dire Avengers.

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 Skinnereal wrote:
Aren't most 2-type kits 5-man boxes?
Hope it's link the Tactical Squad box, not Dire Avengers.


Skitarii infantry are 10-men, two-build boxes, although they suffer from Ye Olde lack of special weapons problem(one of each in a unit that can take three of any one type, *sigh*). Same bodies, different arms & heads - given Tau basic units don't get special weapons(right?), they could easily do a 10-man Fire Warrior/Pathfinder-style box with different heads & weapon arms and a few gubbinz to help differentiate the two.

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 Eldarain wrote:
Maybe they saw a dramatic uptick in sales after the 6th Tau book was released. They won't equate the rules being strong with that though. People just like Tau more than the weaker books narrative wise...


Well, they are the shootiest army. If you want to build a good gunline, I could see picking Tau even if they were just average overall.
   
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Those rumours sound too good to be true. I'd be happy with everything there.
   
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A new threepack crisis suits with commander options would be spectacular, especially if they convert the finecast commander with waist into plastic.

Firewarriors need a new kit. The one they have is ancient and barren. putting in a second troop style would also help with the troop slot problem if Kroot get pulled out to make a Kroot merc book.

Aegis line for Tau? Quick temporary defenses is totally their thing. Hope it comes with a drone turret with a Heavy Rail rifle or HYMP option.

New Riptide sized suit? I could see this. I would prefer a heavy tank, but a fire support Riptide (like the broadside compared to the crisis suit) would make a lot of sense.

If true, I would pick up an average of two of all of these kits. Hope it is not til late fall, after I have the Warlord Titan paid off and built.
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
A new threepack crisis suits with commander options would be spectacular, especially if they convert the finecast commander with waist into plastic.

Firewarriors need a new kit. The one they have is ancient and barren. putting in a second troop style would also help with the troop slot problem if Kroot get pulled out to make a Kroot merc book.

Aegis line for Tau? Quick temporary defenses is totally their thing. Hope it comes with a drone turret with a Heavy Rail rifle or HYMP option.

New Riptide sized suit? I could see this. I would prefer a heavy tank, but a fire support Riptide (like the broadside compared to the crisis suit) would make a lot of sense.

If true, I would pick up an average of two of all of these kits. Hope it is not til late fall, after I have the Warlord Titan paid off and built.


Lol- you bought the beast then? Look forward to seeing a project log for that!

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 angelofvengeance wrote:


Lol- you bought the beast then? Look forward to seeing a project log for that!


Not yet, got the money ducks in a row for when it comes up on the website. As a mere yank, I don't have access to nice things like warhammer world and their exclusive models or events, so I am in a holding pattern.

I do plan a project log though. But that is off topic.

I wonder for Tau if there will be any clampacks in addition to these rumored kits. An Ethereal would really help.
   
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Ouch !

So Tau are already in the pipeline for a renewed codex ? I'm still struggling to finish my Astra Militarum and Tyranid armies. Then my still unused V6 Tau codex seems to get obsolete before I will have the time to begin this army. Is there a foreseeable time frame to get this codex redone ? Do you recommend me to resell it before its values drops next to zero ?

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Good... good. I've crushed so many people with the current dex. I'm looking forward to the new one. Hope we get some awesome formations and see firebase support cadre implemented into the codex.

Also our hammerhead gunships need a buff.

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 pretre wrote:
PENDING Tau Rumors - June 2015
Here are some parting truths about Tau:
They will have a new Fire Warrior box. Two types of units can be made.
New Crisis Suits
More commander suits
New Riptide sized Suit that has large missiles
Looks like a Tau Aegis Defense line with circular weapon platforms.
Don't know about the rules, so don't ask.


Yeah, I don't see all that happening. The fire warrior kit is fine but I could possibly see them making some veteran FW variant dual kit as they're wont to do nowadays. New crisis suit kit? That one is very plausible. More commander suits? Doubtful... the resin one is only 2 years old. I don't recall exactly how old the Eldar finecast kits they replaced were but IIRC they might have been from the 4th edition release days originally in metal (but finecast since the bungled 2012 switch). New Riptide sized suit with large missiles? Unlikely (for a completely new kit). I could possibly see them pulling an Imperial Knight and adding a sprue for a price bump of $10-15 to make a second codex entry but I'd be very surprised to see a completely new set. As for the terrain, I'd probably put that one dead last in the list of likelihood unless it is one of those chinese one shot and done kits like the big plasma turret or the void shield. None of this is from any shred of insider info but rather just my gut feeling so YMMV, season with salt as needed.

   
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And yet, LoWG is very reliable.

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 pretre wrote:
And yet, LoWG is very reliable.


And admittedly my gut is certainly not infallible but those were just my thoughts. Regardign the LOW rumors below from your tracking thread:


-DELETED Skitarii > Ad Mech > Eldar > SM > Tau. Correct. FALSE

-DELETED Lords of War Gaming Raven guard vs Tau and should be out before Tau release.


Why was the first one marked false? Because admech came after eldar? Also why was the second deleted? Does that mean they deleted those rumors themselves and disavowed them?

   
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Yes, they disavowed them.

The first was false because it was the incorrect order.

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 pretre wrote:
Yes, they disavowed them.

The first was false because it was the incorrect order.


Ah, thanks. As for the order, they were off by a couple of weeks so far. Depending on when exactly they made that prediction (especially if prior to the skitarri release), they deserve at least a cookie or partial credit if the tau are indeed next and not Dark Angels. If they made it after the skitarri release or the dark angels sneak in between SM and Tau, I agree no soup for them as there would be multiple inconsistencies despite them getting half or more correct. Again, that depends on the timing of their prediction as well.

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 warboss wrote:
 pretre wrote:
Yes, they disavowed them.

The first was false because it was the incorrect order.


Ah, thanks. As for the order, they were off by a couple of weeks. Depending on when exactly they made that prediction (like prior to the skitarri release), they deserve at least a cookie or partial credit if the tau are indeed next and not Dark Angels. If they made it after the skitarri release, I agree no soup for them.

I may give them a PT instead of a FALSE.

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No worries, I just figured I'd ask. I didn't realize you posted and edited my previous post to make it a bit clearer.

   
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If they have serious legitimate plans to make a kroot codex and are spinning the kroot out of the book then we would need another option to give us two troop choices.
   
 
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