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Harlequins says you don't need 2 troop choices (or HQs for that matter)

but this is GW now, hard to predict

 pretre wrote:
PENDING Tau Rumors - June 2015
Here are some parting truths about Tau:
They will have a new Fire Warrior box. Two types of units can be made.
New Crisis Suits
More commander suits
New Riptide sized Suit that has large missiles
Looks like a Tau Aegis Defense line with circular weapon platforms.
Don't know about the rules, so don't ask.

-New Fire Warrior Box: Happy to hear this as I haven't bought any Fire Warriors yet, will be interesting to see.

-New Crisis Suits: I am really torn on this one, mainly because I am still barely finishing up my awesome magnetized old ones. Granted they are already customized pose wise thanks to some knife work but I will be to tempted to get the new ones! What are your guys thoughts on them giving them a bigger base or even making them taller then the current ones?

-More Commander Suits: I could maybe see this, also would not completely affect my army as I could just sell one of my x2 Commander Suits for this guy so they all look unique.

-New Riptide sized Suit that has Large Missiles: YES YES YES!!! If this is rue I am adding x2 of them hands down to my army, I love me some giant suits.

-Tau Aegis Defense Line: Cool, but I don't use it but still cool.

I remember the rumors leading up to so many GW releases that had people going "nah.. they don't do that..they'd never do that" but then GW drops the bomb and everyone goes "what..wait..WHAT?" trying to figure out how they could have possibly been so wrong about what the old geedub will and won't do.

It was not long ago that people were saying GW would never mix Fantasy and 40, never release Ad-Mech, never release a plastic titan kit, never repackage something and mark it up to almost double it's original price.. oh wait.. that last one was never said.. but still..

If this rumor is true:

New fire warriors dual kits
- Kroot will probably be out the door
- Firewarrior 's that are probably going to be of two types - one type will be long range focus, one will be 18" or less focused that hits harder.
- Or Pathfinders will be Firewarrior variants and become troops. Will share fire warrior statline but use pathfinder weapons and rules.

New Crisis Suits
- Tau Elite slot is the least crowded of all slots so we could see a new CS team move into here
- Or -
- Could see a Hazard Suit type team be moved into the Fast Attack slot

More commander suits
- I've mentioned this in other forums but I've always thought that if they change how Signature systems can be bought and put limits on commanders, essentially doing away with the buffmander, that they would come out with more commander units.
If they make those changes then it makes sense to have 2 or 3 commander models that have specific role types. Examples would be:
An attack/close combat/assault/ 12" or less oriented.
A distance based commander that buffs shooting.
A commander that buffs units or gives army wide buffs, basically a strategic commander.

New Riptide sized Suit that has large missiles
- Most likely a LOW with str D attacks

Looks like a Tau Aegis Defense line with circular weapon platforms.
- Awesome and makes sense that Tau would set up a line for FW to get behind.

These sound a awful lot like the rumors that came out before the current Tau book. The giant robot one was correct (riptide) but the plastic commander, new firewarrior box, and new crisis suits did not happen. And here they are again. Hmmm. I believe the old rumors even talked about Tau scenery as well. I'm getting major de ja vu from these. I would really like them to be true of course, but seeing as how they break the current release MO AND are eerily similar to previous rumors I'm going to not get too excited about these.

That being said... Firewarriors desperately need a new kit. I like the look of them as is, but updated molds would be nice here. The legs and arms are so bad they can be a little hard to paint as you don't know where the cloth ends and the armor begins on some of them.

The Riptide will probably get a bonus sprue with the extra parts and other bits and bobs.

I would support both a midsize suit like the hazard suits moving into the fast attack slot or even a dual crisis kit where you make the xv-8 as elite and the xv-9 revamp as a fast attack. I don't think that the Riptide will move into LOW though as it is in the end only T6. They'd have to come out with an even bigger khornemower/stompa/cheddarknight sized kit at $120+ to fill that.

What I think we'll get is instead like the Blood Angels and Space Wolves an HQ IC moved into lord of war. I sincerely hope it turns out to be farsight buffed out significantly with an irridium suit and eternal warrior plus IWND (due to the life sucking sword) but there is an equal chance that the craptacular space pope will instead move over. The above though is just opinion (not rumor or fact) so YMMV.

Well, I think 3 kits + 1 fortification is certainly within the realm of possibility.

- Space marines got 3 kits (including command tanks) and 4 upgrade sprues.
- Imperium already got 2 fortifications this year
- Harlequins got a full reboot with many kits
- Blood Angels got 2 kits plus Karlaen
- Lords of War have an almost perfect batting average, much higher than anyone else!

So anyhow, I'm excited. But even more so that maybe, just maybe, there will be plastic raven guard bits!

 Talys wrote:
Well, I think 3 kits + 1 fortification is certainly within the realm of possibility.

- Space marines got 3 kits (including command tanks) and 4 upgrade sprues.
- Imperium already got 2 fortifications this year
- Harlequins got a full reboot with many kits
- Blood Angels got 2 kits plus Karlaen
- Lords of War have an almost perfect batting average, much higher than anyone else!

So anyhow, I'm excited. But even more so that maybe, just maybe, there will be plastic raven guard bits!

I didn't look at the actual sprue pics closely but weren't the space marine tanks a single (but large) upgrade sprue for both?

Naaris wrote:

- Tau Elite slot is the least crowded of all slots so we could see a new CS team move into here

What are you on about? I cry for more elite slots

SocksOfDeath wrote:

Naaris wrote:

- Tau Elite slot is the least crowded of all slots so we could see a new CS team move into here

What are you on about? I cry for more elite slots

Mmm more MORE MORRREE battlesuits!

One can NEVER have enough. Except perhaps needing the Railguns to be more effective again. I want XV88's at least up to STR 9. Give us a little bit more choice to take them. Make our Hammerhead twin linked.

There should be some finecast replacement for sure. I think it's the XV8 Battlesuit Commander model that I've seen come in just completely unfixable by being dropped a few times, so I wouldn't be suprised to see that model get a plastic replacement.

SocksOfDeath wrote:

Naaris wrote:

- Tau Elite slot is the least crowded of all slots so we could see a new CS team move into here

What are you on about? I cry for more elite slots

I am just saying, that in comparison to pretty much every other faction, Tau only have 3 elite choices. Every other faction has probably at least 5. So I could see them slot this supposed new type of CS team into the Elite slot. I could also see them move a new CS type team into the Fast Attack Slot, which is overcrowded and has too many underutilized units.

If new crisis suits come in, I might start a tau army. I love the fluff of farsight, but those suits have to be updated.

I don't get the Fire Warrior hate. The models are good. Marines show you don't need Eldar-like choices of troops. In fact, I switched to Tau because Eldar look like a Carnevale parade. I'd like to see some special and heavy weapons in squads, but I realize GW isn't into actually modelling armies in a functional way.

Now, new battle suits could be interesting. More curves and less angles, would seriously threaten my bank account. If they are just cutting up and adding to spues then I'm good thank you.

Iain.

Chairman Aeon wrote:
I don't get the Fire Warrior hate.

Can you point out the "hate"? I'm not that word means what you think it does.

 warboss wrote:

Chairman Aeon wrote:
I don't get the Fire Warrior hate.

Can you point out the "hate"? I'm not that word means what you think it does.

FW models are in need of new moulds. They could use better definition.

I'd like to see Fire Warriors get those haywire grenades as standard for a minor points increase. Also giving them access to the pathfinder drones and weapons would be interesting (perhaps only pathfinders can get a recon drones, would be interesting to see them field 2 in a squad). Lastly, a flamer for the unit would be nice. Meltas should stay with CS suits though.

Perhaps GW's plan will be to move out Kroot and shift Pathfinders into the troops slot.
I'd love to see something like this:

Then make FW boxes dual model kits as suggested.

New Tau Troops are:
Fire Warriors - Supporting fire
Fire Warriors: WS:3 BS:3 S:3 T:3 W:1 I:2 A:1 Ld:8 Save:4+ - 10pts
Shas'ui: WS:3 BS:3 S:3 T:3 W:1 I:2 A:2 Ld:9 Save:4+ - 15pts
Standard issue wargear: Pulse Rifles, Defensive and Haywire grenades

Can take Bonding Knife for 1pt per model
Shas'ui can replace pulse rifle for an ion rife - +5pts, or rail rifle for +10pts or an assault flamer for +15pts (Str5, AP 5, Template, Assault 1)
Unit can take up to 2 Drones
Either Shield, Gun, Markerlight for 12pts each, Grav Inhibitor, pulse accel for 15pts each

Pathfinders - scouts, supporting fire
Pathfinder: WS:3 BS:3 S:3 T:3 W:1 I:2 A:1 Ld:8 Save:4+ - 10pts
Shas'ui: WS:3 BS:3 S:3 T:3 W:1 I:2 A:2 Ld:9 Save:4+ - 15pts
Standard issue wargear: Pulse Carbines, Defensive and Haywire grenades

Each model can choose to replace Pulse carbine with markerlight targeter and pulse pistol for 5pts each
Pulse pistol Str 5, Ap 5, 12" Pistol
Markerlight Targeter Str - , AP -, 36" Assault 1, Target Acquired

Can take Bonding Knife for 1pt per model
Shas'ui can replace pulse carbine for an ion rife - +5pts, or rail rifle for +10pts or an assault flamer for +15pts (Str5, AP 5, Template, Assault 1)
Unit can take up to 2 Drones
Either Shield, Gun, Markerlight for 12pts each, Grav Inhibitor, pulse accel for 15pts each or recon drone for 20pts.

(Edit - problem fixed)

Bharring wrote:
15ppm Fire Warriors?

You can get Marines for cheaper!

math was off. Adjusted!

Tau release could be a Daemonkin like release.

Naaris wrote:

SocksOfDeath wrote:

Naaris wrote:

- Tau Elite slot is the least crowded of all slots so we could see a new CS team move into here

What are you on about? I cry for more elite slots

I am just saying, that in comparison to pretty much every other faction, Tau only have 3 elite choices. Every other faction has probably at least 5. So I could see them slot this supposed new type of CS team into the Elite slot. I could also see them move a new CS type team into the Fast Attack Slot, which is overcrowded and has too many underutilized units.

It's probably just an updated sculpt, like Eldar jetbikes.

I hope one of the new commander suits is a generic XV-22, like the Dawn of War commander.

Some news from ATT:

Basically Blake Spence and Daren Parrwood are the ringleaders of the Tau sculptors for FW....
Last year i managed to bend the ears of them both and Alan Bligh (rules writer and fluff meister) about the next evolution... They basically believe that their commonly held strategies ( Mont'ka and Kauyon) are not the only ones to exist/ explore... They wish to shift our paradigm...

The Devilfish chassis they believe to be lacking ( hence the TL turrets being pulled) and so are considering a few concepts of which i was excited to hear...

ALSO and bigger news is that they believe the XV-109 to be only the first of a wave of evolution....
Behold! The Tau Knight class titan!:-D
The XV-109 is the half way house to meeting the threat of the knights ( hence generally needing 2 to take 1 knight down)... We are getting bigger toys!

After the sporadic chats we have had, i am looking to a more SWAT/SAS Element to them... Rapid drop insertion with some techy punch... And with a possible GW twin purpose box set coming, would tie in nicely...

http://www.advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?p=294095#p294095

I guess the Orkanauts are considered the Orky Knights then..? Ugh... Well, I hope the Tau models will look better.

This is good news

I can see the Warriors / Suits / Commander but not buildings. sorry

now I know for a fact some tau stuff was made between the first codex and the second but its never materialized.

i do think the " aliens " like stingwings and Kroot others are going to either vanish or be so bad that they will be gone in 2-3 books or become background like the Demiurg ( yeah nice going GW id like my space dwarfs please)

Updated OP

You get a Knight! And you get a Knight! Everybody gets a Knight.

Except Chaos. Feth those guys.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You get a Knight! And you get a Knight! Everybody gets a Knight.

Except Chaos. Feth those guys.

Forgeworld.

Ooh and Lord of Skulls. They're doing better than DE.

From Darnok, on warseer :

I'll take one of my earlier statements back for now: one of my birdies just nudged me concering the "weeks, not months" thing. According to him/her/it, we'll see Tau in October, and no 40K until then. So... months indeed.

This would be coherent with this summer being dedicated to Warhammer fantasy new edition.

I have also heard rumors of new Vespid kits. If this is true, this is good news for the unit, I love the guys but HATE their miniatures.

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2015/04/new-vespid-kit.html