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Ill be sure to hit your booth fanexpo saturday

Asterios wrote:

 Conrad Turner wrote:
And the PBWS is a bit of a surprise.

"UPDATE Rifts® Movie

Recently, I’ve gotten some inquiries about the Rifts® Movie, optioned by the Walt Disney Company for development by Jerry Bruckheimer Films. We have not been informed of any new developments on that front, but that does not mean they aren’t working on it and keeping it under wraps. Fingers crossed. Meanwhile, we are exploring other possibilities for licenses and new market areas for Rifts® and other game lines. Time will tell."

I wonder how they feel when the boot's on the other foot? But I can also see that as an indication that WE are just supposed to keep our fingers crossed that there will ever be any further movement on RRT.

Less surprising is the complete lack of "Update" on RRT, just more "You too can get started on this wonderful game, but wave 1 base boxes and expansions NOW!"

Yawn.

Is it time for another timeline update yet?

I'm curious where he is getting these inquiries from? since they are not coming from Disney.

also why do I feel like if Kevin believes inquiries are being made on Rifts for various electronic avenues that Kevin is being punked by one of his fans or employees?

By 'enquiries' he means either emails from fans or people asking on the PB forums.



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Crap. With most of the haters gone, Alundra is really going on the attack.

I'm sure with an audience of bobble heads, Nimmy is having lots of fun.

 Forar wrote:

darkminstrel wrote:


Edit: also, what happened to the "Megaversal Ambassadors" taking over organized play? Oh, right, like PB themselves, I haven't seen much movement or interest from the MA crew. Guess the apple hasn't fallen far there.

And welcome to the Banned Club! I wonder how long before the True Believers give the banned folks a nickname like The Cabal Of Twelve or whatever gak that is that people allude to now and then.

I brought 3 different plans up, 2 while Burke was still in charge of RRT, and one since. I have since passed it to Jake, hoping he and Pidrak can have more success.
This was the first year in a while that I could not go to OrcCon, and am saddened by the fact that there was nothing Palladium, not just no RRT, there.


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Since I was in a hospital hole, could someone please tell me what happened with the negative posts? Did someone from Palladium delete them all? Even the ones that had constructive criticism?

Welcome to dakka. There's a previous thread of several hundred pages prior to this one (that was started with the "restart" of the conversation) if you've got some recuperation time and want to see the slow but unstoppable slide into folks despising palladium.

As for the negative posts, I only looked once and saw someone on facebook named Alundra was apparently flame baiting unhappy customers and getting them banned/comments removed when they respond in kind whereas he stays fine and dandy on the page. I only took a quick look but what I saw reminded me of when in years past Akashic would enter a mildly unhappy thread, gak all over it and over the folks posting there, people would respond in half as bad a tone as him, and then the *at best* entire thread would get nuked and *at worst* the other respondents banned while Liam went on his merry way mission accomplished either way.

Standard palladium white knight operating procedure.

Backfired on rpg.net where a few have been banned.

NMI or whomever is moderating the fb page is only hurting PB by allowing that behavior. It makes PB look worse, not better.

 n815e wrote:
NMI or whomever is moderating the fb page is only hurting PB by allowing that behavior. It makes PB look worse, not better.

Seems like Alundra's posts that people are referring to, have been retracted. At least there's no posts by them in the current thread.

Maybe they realized it did make them look worse?

That kind of requires self-awareness....

Morgan Vening wrote:

 n815e wrote:
NMI or whomever is moderating the fb page is only hurting PB by allowing that behavior. It makes PB look worse, not better.

Seems like Alundra's posts that people are referring to, have been retracted. At least there's no posts by them in the current thread.

Maybe they realized it did make them look worse?

Or else they've served their purpose (if any).
I don't agree with all of it, but Disinformation Part 1: How Trolls Control an Internet Forum was certainly of interest to me regarding stuff I've seen in that vein.

Sining wrote:
That kind of requires self-awareness....

True, gawd, so utterly true.

Merijeek wrote:

 Conrad Turner wrote:
And the PBWS is a bit of a surprise.

"UPDATE Rifts® Movie

Recently, I’ve gotten some inquiries about the Rifts® Movie, optioned by the Walt Disney Company for development by Jerry Bruckheimer Films. We have not been informed of any new developments on that front, but that does not mean they aren’t working on it and keeping it under wraps. Fingers crossed. Meanwhile, we are exploring other possibilities for licenses and new market areas for Rifts® and other game lines. Time will tell."

Ah, but don't you see? The default assumption there is "No news on this for years - no reason not to assume that's AWESOME THINGS ARE HAPPENING! BUY A MOUSE PAD BEFORE THEY DOUBLE IN PRICE!"

Amusingly, Dream Pod 9 actually did worse (if possible...) than PB in this same area; the Pod simply quit making - - all - - of their RPG titles for a couple of years (around 2006-2008 IIRC) about a decade ago to focus on playing at being Hollywood moguls.

Ever since a constant theme with the folks in Pod-land has been wondering why the company and associated titles have so little industry exposure, let alone long term popularity amongst gamers, while continuing to depend almost exclusively on word of mouth advertising (because hey, it's free, er, cheap).

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Morgan Vening wrote:

 n815e wrote:
NMI or whomever is moderating the fb page is only hurting PB by allowing that behavior. It makes PB look worse, not better.

Seems like Alundra's posts that people are referring to, have been retracted. At least there's no posts by them in the current thread.

Maybe they realized it did make them look worse?

No, Alundra's posts are still there.

I do not see any under the latest weekly update.

jaymz wrote:
I do not see any under the latest weekly update.

Because it's a new update. The comments are in the ones after it.

Has anyone tried posting in the new update? Did they turn off all comments for it? If so, making them face reality might have had an effect as they might have gotten tired of trying to erase the truth on a daily basis on top of their normal 18 hour work day 6 days a week that produces little to nothing of note.

jaymz wrote:
Ill be sure to hit your booth fanexpo saturday

Awesome! I hope to be there in the morning and probably most of the afternoon, but I've got tickets to see Trevor Noah in Niagara that evening, so I won't be there the entire day, sadly.

Look for a tall guy in an N7 Mass Effect hoodie at the booth, and you'll have found me!

Edit: there's a pile of comments on the Newsletter link now, just took time. And boy, a bunch of them are pretty negative, I foresee another sweep coming.

Also also, if someone can't see Alundra's comments at all, it's possible they have blocked you personally. When you block someone on FB (or they block you), neither of you can see the other's comments. That said, it seems they haven't commented on this link yet, their last one I see was from the Feb 12th link. But I'm sure a real gem will drop on the new one soon enough.

Ruh, roh. One of the MA ambassadors spoke against palladium on their forums;
http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=150447

"So, I was surprised to hear that there was going to be a tournament in my backyard, without any involvement from myself, but I figured that PB knew I was having surgery on the 16th, and knew I could not attend OrcCon that weekend.
I did reach out to a couple of friends that went, and just read their email- not one RRT event, not one game seen.
When I am well enough to talk again I will try to find out what happened, but this was inexcusable to me.

As far as MA's and organized play, the biggest stumbling block was getting approval- I turned it over to Jake, another coordinator, a while back."

It will be interesting to see the reaction to that.


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Btw the "Total members 11873" for PB forums is total bs because even if you leave or are banned nimmy wont allow your account to be deleted. That way they can artificially keep the member number high. If youre banned nimmy scrambles your password somehow so you cant log back in.

My thought somebody registered with PB for 76 players to attain prize support, didn't show for event, pockets prize support for personal win.

However what they fail to realize is that the joke is on them, nobody will ever want to play Robotech so any prize support minis are in fact useless.

 stanman wrote:
My thought somebody registered with PB for 76 players to attain prize support, didn't show for event, pockets prize support for personal win.

However what they fail to realize is that the joke is on them, nobody will ever want to play Robotech so any prize support minis are in fact useless.

That is not a bad theory at all.

It makes PB look a little less inept/malicious/deceptive.

OK, what sort of "prize support" are we talking about for an event with 76+ participants?

A "free" starter box of RRT?

Hoo boy!

 FacelessMage wrote:

 stanman wrote:
My thought somebody registered with PB for 76 players to attain prize support, didn't show for event, pockets prize support for personal win.

However what they fail to realize is that the joke is on them, nobody will ever want to play Robotech so any prize support minis are in fact useless.

That is not a bad theory at all.

It makes PB look a little less inept/malicious/deceptive.

Well... the latter two out of the three, if that's the case. If they provided prize support for 76+ player tournament, without doing even the most cursory checks, then inept still applies. A small tournament, I could MAYBE see slipping under the radar. As I and others have done, it did not take much effort to find zero evidence that the tournament was happening. And claiming it'd be twice as big as both Adepticon and POH combined? An investigation that took longer than Kevin adding the entry to the PBWU would have shown something fishy.

But if PB got taken by someone promising something well in excess of what they were capable, and managed to screw Palladium out of their hard earned resources and left Kevin feeling like he'd been ripped off? Well irony is payback's twin sister. She's a bitch too.

I see in the latest PBWU, they're still looking for someone, anyone, to run an RRT tournament at GenCon. And still incorrectly giving a timeframe. " In order to get into the Gen Con Games Pre-Registration and the onsite program book, Gen Con needs ALL game information by Mid-February.". It's March 14th according to GenCon. So, another 3 weeks of begging using the standard "carnival barker" approach that they do for their sales. Get it now! Only available for a limited time! Limited being subjective!

Im sure one of their volunteers or staff before complained about how hard it was to get any prizes out of Kevin. And knowing what Kevin is like Im more inclined to believe that he made the whole thing up in anticipation of something he was going to do, then never got around to it.

Much like when he plans what books he'll release each year. 'Absolutely Ill get Mechanoids out this year'.

The scary thing about the thought process a person like Kevin has is:
He is wondering why the person holding the event is not putting up the prizes.
A person should be pleased to provide these items to gain favor with Kevin.
Sometimes people just have no clue, does Kevin have to do everything himself?
When PB has to operate an office with all the lights off to save power, these fans have no idea what resources they are asking of him.
He has long days being bugged by people asking for guidance and it gets longer having to sort out what people did wrong, just handle it!

You know this is the actual experience I have had with fun people like this?
It is all about him.
Short term only.
Supporting his product is NOT the same as supporting him.

But this is the "conjecture" negativity that sour's many forum reader's experiences.
BUT it really is very confusing when dealing with a narcissist: it borders on self destructive in it's self interest.
Until all that is understood, it continues to be a surreal experience.

 stanman wrote:
My thought somebody registered with PB for 76 players to attain prize support, didn't show for event, pockets prize support for personal win.

However what they fail to realize is that the joke is on them, nobody will ever want to play Robotech so any prize support minis are in fact useless.

Funny thing is I was talking about this very same thing happening to someone the other day.

This popped up on my youtube feed this weekend along with the part II. The RPG and tactics stuff is about 5 minutes in.




Good news! Tommy Yune says Palladium is communicating alot better with customers! It's too bad that no one told us backers; that meaningful communication must has some sort of stealth field engaged for the past year. I'm not sure if that is just spin to present this POS situation in some fake better light or, less likely, he is somehow completely oblivious of the real state of this project. I was a bit disappointed that no one took his to task about that comment in the Q&A but it seemed like the few folks there (lots of empty seats/rows in the videos) were only interested in the live action movie. The presentation in the second video is about half devoted to talking about deceased folks that worked on the franchicise; the franchise is old and stale enough that the obituaries constitute a significant part of the updates.

As long as the check cashed, HG doesn't care.

Watching the video: There's a slide that says "Now shipping!" Boy, does that ever need a bunch of asterisks and caveats attached to it!

 Forar wrote:
Watching the video: There's a slide that says "Now shipping!" Boy, does that ever need a bunch of asterisks and caveats attached to it!

In their "defense", that was the last time there was any news that actually affected customers. Since then, it's been nothing but smoke and mirrors regarding the rest of the rewards except for one or two long gone instances.

Is HG willfully ignorant, doesn't care or has PB really pulled the wool over their eyes on RRT?

does anybody else feel like the reason the crowd is so very little or very thin is they only allowed those would not say anything negative about HG and their license holders during the interview? that whole session felt rehearsed.

That insinuation sounds... concerning.