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**n815e**

RRT: Daddy Doesn't Love You

**Forar**

RRT: Duke Nukem Forever, But For Minis.

Though DNF did actually come out eventually.

But it was panned heavily when it did.

**warboss**

True but it took the lawsuit happy original company to sell the rights to finally do it...and that makes the comparison even more uncanny!

**Mike1975**

Almost done....

**Talizvar**

Battletech unseen there for the armored VT?

**Asterios**

you could say i'm almost done with my VF-1R's too

**Mike1975**

Talizvar wrote:
Battletech unseen there for the armored VT?

Yup, have 4 of them now

**Asterios**

Mike1975 wrote:
Talizvar wrote:
Battletech unseen there for the armored VT?

Yup, have 4 of them now

I have this one:

**Soul Samurai**

Talizvar wrote:
So the proposed thing to do is notch out the missile launchers to fit the VT shoulders into.
Hack the bottom of the Spartan feet and fit the VT feet inside.
I might be able to cut the same polystyrene square tube on an angle and avoid wrecking the legs altogether.
Cut the Spartan arms to fit with the VT upper arms.
Cut three little rounds for the missiles on the end of the arm, I may have to sculpt the non-gun hand.
Cut three lengths of rounds to attach to the hips of the legs.
A combination of the VT forearm and the Spartan forearm I think I can make the jetpack, I have some card I can use to lengthen the tips and can cut appropriately.

I have done this many times in my head, what can go wrong??
I got the vision mon, just a wee bit more ganja... and....

That sounds like a good idea, I look forwards to seeing the results! If it works will you post a step-by-step guide?

**Albertorius**

I promised Nesbet some comparison pics, so here they are!

I made pics for Antares C3 trooper, Antares Algorin trooper, SedWars male and female trooper and Dreamforge Games Eisenkern trooper, comparing them with a Regult, a Glaug, a VF in multiple mods and a destroid. Pics are kind of big, so I'll spoiler them:

Regult

Spoiler:

Glaug

Spoiler:

VF

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And Destroid

Spoiler:

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Mike1975 wrote:
Almost done....

That Britait looks enormous. Could you make a couple comparicon pics with valks and the like, if you have the time, please?

**Stormonu**

What about this for an Armored? I think it may be the same size as the one I have from an old Battletech kit.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nichimoco-1-200-Macross-Super-Valkyrie-Battroid-VF-1A-Soldier-model-kits-2pcs-/162074531517?hash=item25bc6516bd:g:FI8AAOSwdWBXO625

What's really interesting to me is it says it "2 pieces" - does that mean there's two in the box or the model comes in only two halves?

**Albertorius**

I assure you, those are more than 2 pieces

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macross-1-200-Super-VF-1A-Battroid-Valkyrie-Model-Kit-Nichimo-Robotech-Japan/261929673861?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3D6fac61277d1943cb82dfa273a2db2a57%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D11%26mehot%3Dlo%26sd%3D162074531517

**Stormonu**

Ah, but less parts than PB, I see

**Mike1975**

Like these.....scale comparisons

**Albertorius**

He's... seriously enormous, isn't he.

**Talizvar**

Those are the "Super Veritech" which is the thruster/missile launcher on the back, extended maneuvering thrusters on the legs and the launchers on the arms.
1:200 will be a bit on the big side: 9mm scale.
Funny though, most likely less parts.

**Mike1975**

Talizvar wrote:
Those are the "Super Veritech" which is the thruster/missile launcher on the back, extended maneuvering thrusters on the legs and the launchers on the arms.
1:200 will be a bit on the big side: 9mm scale.
Funny though, most likely less parts.

The Super that I have is simply a Battletech Phoenix Hawk......there is someone that makes the other modes too but he is expensive.

**Talizvar**

Got to find where those Lancers are coming from...
Breetai certainly is big.

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Mike1975 wrote:
The Super that I have is simply a Battletech Phoenix Hawk......there is someone that makes the other modes too but he is expensive.

Yeah, my prior comment was for the model kit.
In battletech between it and the shadowhawk are my favorite ~50 ton mechs.

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Stumbled across this, look familiar?

This is from a few years back so I am pretty sure this is not a fan copying PB.

**Asterios**

Talizvar wrote:
Got to find where those Lancers are coming from...
Breetai certainly is big.

they coming from various sources, mine I made myself and so on and so on.

**Albertorius**

IIRC, that Crusader is from a guy that was doing 15mm Battletech.

**Stormonu**

Yeah, definitely Battletech, I recognize the Davion/Federated Suns symbol on the lower left leg.

On the 1/200 model, I believe the Crusader/Armored VF and the Super (a gashapon) in this picture is that scale. The Crusader, BTW, is a model I happen to have back from the late 80's/early 90's - it was put out by FASA for battletech.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/118158058@N03/20484202370/in/photostream/

If I ever do play this game, I'll probably use both in my games until I either scale all the models up to 1/200 (preferred - to cut out dealing with PB) or find some 1/285 sources (unlikely).

**Nesbet**

Hey Albertorius, thank you very much for the pics!
I´m now more inclined to use C3 troops for zentraedi infantry. I'm thinking about modifying the heads to match the zent style, but have no idea how to represent the heavy infantry.

Any ideas?

**Albertorius**

Nesbet wrote:
Hey Albertorius, thank you very much for the pics!
I´m now more inclined to use C3 troops for zentraedi infantry. I'm thinking about modifying the heads to match the zent style, but have no idea how to represent the heavy infantry.

Any ideas?

If you're going with C3 troopers, I'd suggest using C3 drop troopers for the heavies. They share the same general design aesthetics but different enough to avoid mixing them up:

Plus command squad:

OTOH, if you'd prefer a more semi biological feel to your zents, you might want to use Isorian troopers:

**Etna's Vassal**

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This is sad. At this point, the thing I'm most excited about is a fellow "Negima!" fan.

I moved last week, and I (not making this up) just grabbed my RRT minis and tossed them in a box. Every other mini I own was carefully wrapped and transported, but not these. Between the game being stillborn, being jerked around by PB, and having more pressing things to take care of, I was just not willing to care.

Which will happen first? RRT getting in backer hands (entirely), or the comments reaching the 100,000 mark?

That said, it's nice to see people painting their minis up nicely. Way to go, all!

**Forar**

I'd say the 100k mark, even with the comparative trickle that we have these days. I'm sure some controversy or another will crop up to get it rolling again.

Plus, if one includes the comments on the Updates, we're already well past that point.

**Talizvar**

Soul Samurai wrote:
That sounds like a good idea, I look forwards to seeing the results! If it works will you post a step-by-step guide?

Yeah, got going on the VT Armor.
I learned a few ways how not to do it and stopped for a bit before it got expensive.
For interest, this is my "revised" plan for the Armored VT build, I am just bracing myself to recover what parts I can from my initial experiment.

Spoiler:

If I do not get far, I may have to shelve this since I have pressing gaming matters.
I have to build a bunch of GI's for Bolt Action and in particular PAINT!!!

**warboss**

Well, at least you know you have an audience here... I know that's little consolation compared to actually playing another game that you could work on but it's something, right???....

**Nesbet**

@Etna's Vassal, sad to read that. But that'syour decision. It's true that PB has screwed the game and the franchise and the minis and... way too much. But is your decision what you make with your minis. You can play other games out there, Nodal Wars, Battletech, etc. You can work through your own wave 2. You can just play with wave 1? Use them just as figures for dioramas and display? why not?
In my case, the only thing I'm still waiting PB is to release the cards on drivrethrurpg.com. After that I'm done with PB, I would not care anymore what PB does. Or doesn't.
If you decide that tossing your minis that you paid is a good idea... well, I would say you should think things more clearly...

@Talizvar, I would love to see pics of that experiments and kitbashing! If they can be posted here, of course.

Cheers!

PS: And I think that PB is not ever going to release their rights and sketches and drawings and 3D renders and such to the backers. NEVER. I would like them to accept defeat and at least release the renders to print some minis on shapeways and similar services (I'm looking at you, Glaug-Eldare! Gnerls!!)
Of course there will be more than 100K comments. PB sucks.

**Stormonu**

Forar wrote:
I'd say the 100k mark, even with the comparative trickle that we have these days. I'm sure some controversy or another will crop up to get it rolling again.

Plus, if one includes the comments on the Updates, we're already well past that point.

pffft I'm waiting for the day comments surpass the amount made (~1.4M) before they deliver Wave 2.

Just as an odd question, has anyone tried playing this game in Vassal or Tabletop Simulator yet?

**warboss**

Are there files available for them? I've never used Tabletop Sim and I haven't fired up vassal in at least two years.