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They don't cost anything...but they can save you $1.44M.

Scott quickly fell in line.

Rather sad and maddening all in one.
I wonder what integrity costs to lose for a living wage?

I have to wonder - who are they going to get to tweak the renders they showed - whoever did the gRifts models? Was that Carmen?

More likely, it'll be a call up to ND, followed by a swift hang-up.

Have they ever shown renders for Objective Pack 2 - the crashed valk, damaged battlepod ... and I forget what else? That's an additional, what, six more updates they can squeeze out of this dead, drawn and quartered horse?

At this point I am just waiting until 2021 to see if PB has a fire sale for all of the extra stock they have to see if they can make anything back on it or whether they just take it all to the landfill.

This update just shows that they have no idea what they are doing. The details on Minmei won't even be able be produced due to the tiny scale they selected for the game. Why show us a close up of something you will *never* be able to actually get to show on a model?

At this point I am just waiting until 2021 to see if PB has a fire sale for all of the extra stock they have to see if they can make anything back on it or whether they just take it all to the landfill.

It will truly be the "year of RRT" as they unload anything that is left in every Christmas Surprise Package order that comes in.

My apologies if these have been posted already

http://withinthedungeon.blogspot.ca/2017/08/robotech-rpg-tactics-game-of-quotes.html

http://withinthedungeon.blogspot.ca/2017/09/robotech-rpg-tactics-game-of-quotes.html

n815e wrote:Scott quickly fell in line.

Talizvar wrote:Rather sad and maddening all in one.
I wonder what integrity costs to lose for a living wage?

I'll admit to this happening faster than I thought it would.

 Alpharius wrote:

n815e wrote:Scott quickly fell in line.

Talizvar wrote:Rather sad and maddening all in one.
I wonder what integrity costs to lose for a living wage?

I'll admit to this happening faster than I thought it would.

I'm of the other opinion. I'm surprised he's lasted as long as he did at looking at least kind of independent. There was way too little criticism, for me to see him as not just another flunky. Granted, you don't want to gak on the boss, but when you're trying to write the ship, you need to acknowledge some of the biggest problems, apologize, and address those problems.

I know I've harped on it a lot, but for me it became about the Force Orgs. It's a simple task, that Scott claimed was mostly done. And then spent several Updates dicking about, and then blowing it off. Rather than just getting it done and showing that the crap of the past was in the past.

The other was in his first Update. "First, Wayne and Kevin spent half of Friday morning (7/16/2017) on a conference call with a manufacturer (I did not sit in on the call due to another pressing business need that morning).". That he didn't had something more important than getting first hand knowledge of the biggest problem that the campaign has had for the last three years (getting quotes!), and then taking Kevin and Wayne's word that everything was awesome, and then not seeming to follow up on that with backers (what happened to that quote? Why did they choose to open up bidding again? Is that manufacturer still in the running?), cemented things for me that this was looking to be the same old same old.

Then, when he stopped addressing backers concerns and putting irrelevant gak forward instead, was when I knew it was PB Flunky v3.0.

Not being at PB is another red flag - as previously noted, it pretty much means he's getting PB-filtered "info" for all the important things...

Ugh.

 Alpharius wrote:
Not being at PB is another red flag - as previously noted, it pretty much means he's getting PB-filtered "info" for all the important things...

Ugh.

That was definitely a "Wait.... what?" moment. But as others have mentioned, I'm not sure if that's been confirmed yet? I know I saw it, but I can't recaill the source.

But it was definitely up there with "We're talking to manufacturers at GenCon, but I'm not going". Meaning everything that happened at GenCon, passed through the lens of Kevin. And Kevin's not exactly known for being Detective Friday. Hyperbole, exaggeration and bs are Kevin's stock in trade.

It is all about positive spin for Palladium Books and Kevin.
Negative spin for anyone else the least bit critical of the above.

It is funny but with Trump, N. Korea and hurricane mayhem, it is hard to stay focused on the first world problems that are RRT.

Scott lives in Texas.

 jaymz wrote:
Scott lives in Texas.

I don't like cyberstalking, or using of any private communication, or anything like that.

But a search on PB's own public Forums of the Megaverse for keyword "texas" author "Scott Gibbons" gives this as the first result.

"Then I moved to Texas,", from July 2015. Several other posts by him (again, on a public forum) place him in the area. So it's not definitive (he could have moved since), but it is in a public record that he at least did live there, and there have been no claims that he relocated since.

 Talizvar wrote:
It is all about positive spin for Palladium Books and Kevin.
Negative spin for anyone else the least bit critical of the above.

If positive spin is being talked about negatively in the gaming community, various message boards, and social media then Palladium is looking at things through some rather delusional rose-colored glasses.

While this has been incredibly maddening to the backer's, to varying degrees, Talizvar is correct: this is a first world problem. But this doesn't excuse, or validate Palladium for bilking backers and Palladium Books and Kevin 'I AM PALLADIUM' Siembieda should be held responsible for being the crooked gakkers that they are. While I have come to some terms that I will likely never see the balance of what I pledged for, if I can voice my concerns on any forum constructively and maybe keep someone from getting hosed by this outfit, then I will consider that equitable compensation for losing money to this outfit.

I think that theft and fraud are third world problems, too.

Well since my rt alpha strike conversions are done in at least written form....on to rt zeta (4 variations). After that may be rt xwing, the rt armada and/or rt attack wing. After that....who knows what.

Maybe a first world problem but my updates (more rapid than Scooter's and just as informative) take a few minutes to bang out versus the disaster recovery issues that I am focused on. But, yeah, the theft pales in comparison to the real problems of the world. I'm getting some mileage out of writing Scooter's updates for him, though. Keeping my typing skills sharpened while my grammar gets worse as I write his updates with far too many run on sentences.
I care just enough to make fun of the dingbats, dullards, dunces, and daft dorks that make up the wonderfully insular world of Palladium. I occasionally still get angry but yeah, end of the day I got a lesson that no one keeps Unca Kevvy's fingers out of the pie that he will mash and mix and squish until it's an unrecognizable lump of goo which he will then blame the end result on everyone else that never hardly even touched the pie. Or rather Ninja Division apparently baked the pie and then Unca Kevvy shooed them off so he could do the above and THEN blame them for the mess it has become.

I would like to applaud your restraint - doing a pie analogy without using anything referring to American Pie.

It also ties-in with one of the few postings by NMI: "Sweet, sweet, apple pie."

Does NMI actually have a group he plays these tabletop games with? I can't imagine the guy actually being personable enough to have players coming to his table to play some gRifts, Heroes Limited, or Beyond the Superfluous. Imagine a lot of, "You are banished from my table!" Could be wrong, the guy could just be abrasive with an inflated sense of self online and be a meek kitten in real life that is a fun guy to be with.
I had a friend that was great to game with, knowledgeable of history, willing to try games out, etc. but was a supernova level jerk online and you couldn't believe for a second it was the same person.

 jaymz wrote:
My apologies if these have been posted already

http://withinthedungeon.blogspot.ca/2017/08/robotech-rpg-tactics-game-of-quotes.html

http://withinthedungeon.blogspot.ca/2017/09/robotech-rpg-tactics-game-of-quotes.html

Thanks for the share James!

IDK I don't think that Scott is getting paid much, if in fact he is getting paid something. I forgot to thank whoever posted that link to the photo of him and his coffee mug... (Which reads somethin' city, Texas) He is obviously a sock puppet... I mean based on the comments, why do they even continue with these updates. It only fans the flames... And most people hardly have anything more than apathy for this project. And there is no money in Palladium Books producing wave 2 "rewards."

I mean what? 300-500 commenters most likely in the last 2 years... ( a guess) and only a handful of far more active posters, out of more than 5k backers. I think this is less worry from them on legal fronts... Because that would have already happened and more about them having some money left over but having zero interest in paying any of that money back as a refund... So they can just say they are working on it... Rather than pay anything back. Instead of saying they are working on it... to avoid any legal ramifications... Maybe it doesn't matter (shades of grey) but the first one is shattier than the second.

And... The whole time they are workin' on it and when the money runs out all the better for their own conscience... That's how narcissistic they are.

Here's the shot of Sock Puppet #1: https://www.facebook.com/PalladiumBooks/photos/a.176895742324695.50103.175809969099939/1840722122608707/?type=3&theater

Wow, the cover on that "Dimensional Outbreak" book is sure something. Whose kid drew that one?

Merijeek wrote:
Wow, the cover on that "Dimensional Outbreak" book is sure something. Whose kid drew that one?

Presumably the original version wasn't up to Kevin's high standards, so he re-did it personally. NMI then said it was his best effort, yet!

Is anyone up on the facebook post on Mike's group where Thomas Roache stated that all the planned Robotech RPG tactics products (like the scenario book) are on hold until wave 2 releases?

Seems like relevant information that I have seen little commentary on.

So never to be released, then?

I don't think there is much to say about it. Like any other Palladium book, the first scenario book was meant to be released a year ago, I think, and will be promised for years to come.

Merijeek wrote:
Wow, the cover on that "Dimensional Outbreak" book is sure something. Whose kid drew that one?

PB used to have decent illustrations and covers. Their graphic design may still be stuck in the 80s, but their illustrations were at least evocative and (usually) well-executed. But they've really gone downhill. Maybe they don't have enough money to pay their usual artists?

This one from a few years ago seems very, well, cheap:



I'd be embarrassed to have that on my shelf.

Yes. that is absolute garbage - but I think you hit on why. It's just plain cheap.

That's why it was on the cover.

And I assume that the old artists actually do work for companies that, you know, pay the bills.

I wonder if it hurt Kevin to not be able to have a (tm) or (r) after "The Coalition States'?

I only bought Palladium books because I liked the artwork, it's a real shame the one area they excelled in was dragged down by the rest of the company

Kevin has been selling Kevin Long's artwork for years and he hasn't worked for them in a very long time.

So it would seem they have a large stockpile of artwork laying around.. plus KS is a writer, publisher and artist ..

but he is also a few other things that the moderators say I can't use those words here.

At this point they can not afford to print but a few hundred items at a go.. so how can the pay for writers or artist..

Most likely they are using old unused interior art, someone is coloring it and making it cover art... or it is some Fan Friend art

that is given to them or very cheaply bought.

One of their main artist now is just a basic "Poser" artist and clearly he has no skills or training as an artist.. but I am sure he is cheap.