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all i can say is leviathan... something as big as a house and toting enormously big weapons like that shouldn´t be allowed to move on treads and not just sink straight into the ground...
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That new Tau flyer/bomber thingy. If it ever actually performed a manoeuvre of more than 1/12 of a G in still, windless air and at extremely low speeds (IE around 20MPH maximum) the stresses on its frame would shatter it in to pieces.
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I believe the Stompa moves because its legs are hidden under its metal skirt.
It could still move like that, just rather clumsily and not super fast. And it will be prone to falling over, but you can't really expect much more from orks.
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master of ordinance wrote: That new Tau flyer/bomber thingy. If it ever actually performed a manoeuvre of more than 1/12 of a G in still, windless air and at extremely low speeds (IE around 20MPH maximum) the stresses on its frame would shatter it in to pieces.
Not really. Its actually more structurally sound than, say, a P-38;
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all i can say is leviathan... something as big as a house and toting enormously big weapons like that shouldn´t be allowed to move on treads and not just sink straight into the ground...
It just uses anti-gravity. Standard procedure for all imperial vehicles.
I have no idea how it moves, why it moves, what the things on it mean or what they are for... it's just... strange.
The statues are there to weigh down the back, therefore making the engines angle towards the ground which will actually provide an upwards thrust. I mean there's no way those wings have enough surface area to generate enough lift for something that big, after all
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Doctadeth wrote: The drop pods have retro-rockets that fire at the last second to stop decent. It's something that's used in the real world, the Soyuz reentry modules use it, and it's not....fun for normal people.
The Soyuz also has several parachutes which slows its descent to 24 feet per second (~7 metres per second) before the thrusters fire. Without the thrusters landing would be uncomfortable, but unlikely to be lethal.
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Fluffwise, everything which uses anti-gravity propulsion.
Modelwise, the Leman Russ Battle Tank. Cannon is so huge that they could carry only a few shots. Lexicanum claims its 120mm cannon, but it seems its more like 750mm.
all i can say is leviathan... something as big as a house and toting enormously big weapons like that shouldn´t be allowed to move on treads and not just sink straight into the ground...
It just uses anti-gravity. Standard procedure for all imperial vehicles.
As long as the vehicle's weight is evenly distributed, weight isn't really a factor over flat terrain. Look at the space shuttle transporter or the Bagger 288. The only reason modern humans don't build Leviathans is because we're practical and have finite resources. The Imperium suffers from neither of those problems!
all i can say is leviathan... something as big as a house and toting enormously big weapons like that shouldn´t be allowed to move on treads and not just sink straight into the ground...
It just uses anti-gravity. Standard procedure for all imperial vehicles.
As long as the vehicle's weight is evenly distributed, weight isn't really a factor over flat terrain. Look at the space shuttle transporter or the Bagger 288. The only reason modern humans don't build Leviathans is because we're practical and have finite resources. The Imperium suffers from neither of those problems!
i am with you on that kind of reasoning. and true...the IOM is probably not that interested in global warming and extinction of animal races....
Hawky wrote: Fluffwise, everything which uses anti-gravity propulsion.
Modelwise, the Leman Russ Battle Tank. Cannon is so huge that they could carry only a few shots. Lexicanum claims its 120mm cannon, but it seems its more like 750mm.
Ive always modeled my Russ with smaller main guns. Im an ex Abrams crewman, I love tanks, But Ive always hated the cannon on the russ
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Ironically speaking, the Orks Stompa is just about the only mech / walker in all of 40k which could concievably move without some "anti-grab technology!" handwavium crap.
It wouldn't move very fast, and it wouldn't be the most stable thing ever, but it could actually stand without supports and move around on open ground.
I thought the taurox had an awkward design. Considering the guns would fire ammunition across the doors the crew would use to get out and the fact it looks like a jeep with treads isn't helping.
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The baneblade. It doesn't have sufficiently large surface area on its tracks when compared to the weight it must have. This would result in the vehicle (IRL) being inoperable because it would sink into the ground, literally.
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The pilot? is jamming on top with no cover (or helmet) and the missiles come from the back of her chair
It's easy to assume that people arguing an interpretation you disagree with are just looking for an advantage for themselves... But it's quite often not the case.
Vankraken wrote: The strangest thing is the Dakkajet. It actually looks like something that would fly and considering its an Ork vehicle I wonder why its in the game.
Amusingly, the White Dwarf released alongside it commented on how non-aerodynamic it was. The same White Dwarf that debuted the Stormtalon.
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Vankraken wrote: The strangest thing is the Dakkajet. It actually looks like something that would fly and considering its an Ork vehicle I wonder why its in the game.
Amusingly, the White Dwarf released alongside it commented on how non-aerodynamic it was. The same White Dwarf that debuted the Stormtalon.
On a scale of one to ironic.....
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Vankraken wrote: The strangest thing is the Dakkajet. It actually looks like something that would fly and considering its an Ork vehicle I wonder why its in the game.
Amusingly, the White Dwarf released alongside it commented on how non-aerodynamic it was. The same White Dwarf that debuted the Stormtalon.
On a scale of one to ironic.....
Oddly enough, the Stormtalon actually could conceivably fly with all those thrusters its covered in.
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I have no idea how it moves, why it moves, what the things on it mean or what they are for... it's just... strange.
The statues are there to weigh down the back, therefore making the engines angle towards the ground which will actually provide an upwards thrust. I mean there's no way those wings have enough surface area to generate enough lift for something that big, after all
Its a land speeder. those things have always used antigravity propulsion to stay in the air. Aerodynamic lift is irrelevant, and indeed not necessarily useful in a vehicle that may need to work in an environment with no atmosphere.
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sing your life wrote: I was pretty sure the Russ suspension is there, just covered up by the track and armour plate just like the WW1 and inter-war tanks GW based the design on.
You see the problem with that, right? If the armor goes all the way to the ground... the suspension can't travel. Granted you're right that the old Mk IV tank from WWI that it's partly based on had the same suspension design (i.e. it didn't have a suspension). But it doesn't make it less silly when you think about it.
No I meant the Russ could have inspired by something like this:
That tank has a fully functioning suspension, just you can't see most of it from outside since the metal plates are covering it up.
I don't think you quite understand. The Char 2C you posted does have a functioning suspension, and the plates covering it up in your picture are hinged skirts. As the tank sinks into soft ground, they can lift out of the way. Further, they appear to have several inches of clearance above the track pads - you probably have half a foot of clearance before the skirts even hit anything, at which point they can move out of the way and the suspension can travel further. You can see the hinged removable skirt armor in this picture:
The Leman Russ side armor is a single rigid armor plate extending down to the very tops of the tracks. The tank would have a couple inches of travel, total, beyond which the rigid hull of the tank is literally digging into the ground and the road wheels can't/won't travel any further. It's closer to the Mk IV from WWI, where the armor extended down to the tops of the tracks and there was no suspension at all.
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Its simply for any ork vehicle...Because Orks, that's why. The idea is no suppose to have logic in it.
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