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The Great State of Texas

Here's the real indicator. How did they get the same safe open, twice?

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Somewhere in south-central England.

The story doesn't say the money was in a safe.

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Right, good catch there.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Other articles mention the safe. As well as mentioning that the victim called home to get the combination the night that he was assaulted. I'll find it when I get home, or get time to search for it while I'm slacking off at work.

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Here we go:

And now we get amnesia thrown into the story!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/14/they-carved-die-cigarette-into-his-arms.html

For the work blocked:

Spoiler:
Rick Jones may have suffered amnesia after so many blows to the head. But the words “Die cigarette,” sliced into both of his scarred arms make it impossible to forget the first ambush.

It was April 25 at closing time at his family’s pizzeria just off Main Street in downtown Delta, Utah. Jones told his hands to go home.

Then the 27-year-old was suddenly cold-clocked, force-fed bleach, and robbed by bandits. Months passed. Then, this past Wednesday, Jones’s life was almost snuffed when his bedroom went alight at dawn immediately after some maniac tossed a Molotov cocktail that crashed into his window. Miraculously, it didn’t detonate.

The attack on Jones was particularly ferocious. But it wasn’t uncommon, unfortunately. Out of the almost 6,000 hate crimes committed in 2013—the last year for which statistics are available—20 percent (approximately 1,200 that year) were based on victims’ sexual orientation, according to the FBI.

This incident started with Jones thinking he couldn’t be touched.

The family-owned Grand Central Pizzeria, which Jones runs along with his sisters and parents, has a policy in place for safety’s sake to never close up solo. “He sent his last employees home for the night saying, ‘I’ll finish this,’” Ricky’s mom Terri Jones, who works as a chef at the eatery, told The Daily Beast. “My son, being a male, was thinking he’s invincible.”

Alone, and with a few duties such as batching receipts and tossing the trash outside, everything seemed routine until Jones was broadsided and outnumbered.

“I went out to take out the trash, and when I came back in I thought it was strange that I didn’t hear the door close,” Jones told Gay Salt Lake. “I turned around to shut the door, and someone grabbed me by the head and slammed me to the wall.”

In almost sicko ninja fashion, the robbers sicced Jones from behind. He never caught a glimpse of the invaders who proceeded to pummel him into unconsciousness.

The beach-blonde young man was tossed like a ragdoll against the wall and socked in the jaw. Jones managed to regain consciousness to see an intruder pinning him down. “I remember waking up and I was lying on the floor,” he said. “Someone was on my chest and legs and they were trying to force me to drink bleach.”

At one point he managed to make a bizarre phone call to his mom who was at home nearby the Grand Central Pizzeria restaurant.

“He called us and mentioned, ‘I can’t remember the combination to the safe. Do you have it,’” Terri Jones recalled. “We’re thinking he was forced to make that call.”

Then the cruel crooks defiled her only son.

They knifed into his forearms “Die cigarette” and scurried away with over $1,000 from the eatery’s safe.

"I remember waking up and I was lying on the floor. Someone was on my chest and legs and they were trying to force me to drink bleach.”

“They took all the money but they did not destroy anything else or take anything—and we have expensive food,” she said, stressing that her son has been afflicted with amnesia after the episode.

He was left for naught for three hours of eerie unconsciousness on the floor after suffering a massive concussion, a goose egg on his head and a bruised jaw after being socked.

The cruel crooks were calculated and made a clean getaway, the concerned mother said.

“They were very prepared and this was very well-planned,” she noted, downplaying the vile homophobic hate speech tattooed on her son and peppered in each attack. “My thought is that it’s somebody that saw a quick and easy way to make money and kept robbing us,” she said, with anguish causing her voice to break.

The family-owned and run restaurant shuttered for a couple days and tried to play down the vicious attack on Ricky on its Facebook page. “After Saturday night’s events, we are closed tonight only… Thank you all for the love and support. It has been a great encouragement.”

Then—not a week later, on April 30—Ricky Jones and his family were met with the same “Die cigarette” missive, spray painted on their garage door, authorities told The Daily Beast.

“It was just five days later and they tagged our garage,” Terri Jones said.

On Wednesday, a few days after Utah Pride Festival Weekend concluded, the Jones family was attacked twice again. Thieves tossed a rock into the restaurant and jimmied open another backdoor in the middle of the night to empty the safe again.

“We changed the safe combination and somehow they were still able to steal everything inside,” she fumed of the safe that was tucked in the pizzeria’s back office. “We will be talking to the manufacturer of the safe because we feel like they sold us a faulty product.”

Later that same day, the family, sound asleep, was firebombed.

“We were all sound asleep in bed and Ricky heard a crash and felt something land in the bed next to him,’ Terri Jones said. “It was a rock and then he saw flames on his floor and he jumped out of bed and started yelling ‘Fire!’”

The soda bottle filled with gasoline had landed setting Ricky Jones’s room alight. But the device failed to explode. “He jumped out of bed and took the extinguisher and began spraying the flames out.”

The mother of the faithful Baptist family believes there was some form of divine intervention at play. “The bottle, when it hit it the bed and broke off and fell to the floor, if [the soda bottle] had broken my Ricky wouldn’t be here… It’s only by God’s hand that he’s safe. I strongly believe he has kept him safe and will keep him safe,” she said.

Right now the mother is trying to play sentry over her family but is at a loss on who would want to rip them off and target her beloved son. “I don’t know anybody who is more liked than our son,” she said.

Detectives are trying to catch whoever did this by ramping up their patrols and keeping a closer eye on the victim. But the string of attacks is doing a number on a the town of Delta, Utah (population just under 3,500) which was described by Jones’s mom as a real life utopia.

Yet after multiple robberies and bigoted-fueled salvos against her family Terri Jones is terrified to be home or anywhere else.

“This just doesn’t happen here,” she told The Daily Beast in a phone interview. “The town is kind of like a Mayberry. People are kind and they are supportive and gracious. It’s a great community to live in. We are very confused by all of this.”

“It’s nice to think we’re Mayberry but we passed that a long time ago,” Millard County Sheriff Robert Dekker told The Daily Beast.

Lindsay Mitchell, who has been running the records department at the sheriff’s office for a decade, said that hate crime is alien to Delta. “I’ve been doing records for ten years and there’s never been anything nothing like this before,” she said. “We have the usual drug crimes, traffic offenses and there’s times when they busted different meth labs. But this is new.”

On the pattern of assaults and money grabs on the Jones family—specifically targeting Ricky Jones, Sheriff Dekker is certain it adds up to the worst kind of prejudice. “There’s no doubt I would call it a hate crime,” he said. “Each incident refers to something about [Jones] being gay saying ‘Die cigarette!’”

While Millard County Sheriffs are chalking Ricky Jones’s attacks as hate crimes, Jones’s mother is not trying to let the incidents get swallowed up by some sort of political agenda. All Terri Jones wants to do is to protect her family, and is praying the deputies catch these fiends. “Hate is hate no matter how you put it,” she said. “Whether somebody hates you because of your religion or the color of your skin or because they don’t like the tone of your voice it’s all the same.”

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"Die, cigarette"? What the heck is that?
   
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Relapse wrote:
"Die, cigarette"? What the heck is that?


A Dakkdakka auto censor. Derogatory word for a homosexual man that starts with an F.


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For contrast, here is a similar story, flipped...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/2/indiana-pizzeria-owners-close-doors-may-leave-town/

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The Great State of Texas

Authorities are saying it was a fake:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HATE_CRIME_UTAH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-06-30-21-36-15

Authorities: Gay slur carved into Utah man's arm was staged

By LINDSAY WHITEHURST
Associated Press

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- A man who reported someone beat him and carved a homophobic slur into his arm staged the attacks, authorities in rural Utah said Tuesday.

Millard County Sheriff Robert Dekker said Rick Jones, 21, could face charges after officers investigating the series of reported attacks found inconsistencies in the evidence. The Delta man eventually acknowledged faking the harassment, Dekker said.

Brett Tolman, an attorney for Jones, said the reports were a cry for help initially directed toward people close to him, and Jones didn't realize how much attention they would get.

"I think it's such good evidence of the difficulties members of the gay community deal with, and some make better choices than others," Tolman said.

Jones has since begun mental health treatment, the lawyer said.

The purported attacks began with a beating at his family's pizza business in April that left Jones with head and facial bruising.

Five days later, the family's home was found spray-painted with a homophobic slur. On June 10, a rock and a molotov cocktail were thrown through the window of the home. That same day, the business was spray-painted, broken into and robbed of $1,000.

Jones told KSL-TV earlier this month he believed he was targeted because he is gay.

Dekker said prosecutors are considering possible charges including filing a false report and reckless burning.

Tolman said Jones didn't have any criminal intent and the outpouring of support after the allegations became public was a good message.

Lt. Gov. Spencer Cox publicly declared his support after the allegations were reported. Cox said Tuesday that he's relieved that the troubling allegations weren't authentic, but he's concerned for Jones and his family and hopes they find "peace and healing."

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Glad that issue was resolved.

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Hopefully he's appropriately charged.

 
   
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 cincydooley wrote:
Hopefully he's appropriately charged.
Yup. Fraud, Filing a false police report, etc.
   
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Knew it from the start.

Vindication!

edit:

Some additional things:

I wonder if the store will offer re-imbursement to those folks who made a pilgrimage to honor and make offerings to this martyr of anti-gay hate.

I also saw a few of the sites that carried this story that a gofundme campaign was started as well, if that was legit, that money needs to be returned.

Charge this guy with a hate crime?

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TN/AL/MS state line.

A hate crime? For what?

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I'd sue him hard enough to have him pay for the rest of his life. Glad the authorities got it sorted out.

   
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 Sinful Hero wrote:
A hate crime? For what?


Probably under the argument that he was alleging multiple hate crimes against himself for being gay, thus inciting bigotry and animosity himself.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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 Frazzled wrote:
 Sinful Hero wrote:
A hate crime? For what?


Probably under the argument that he was alleging multiple hate crimes against himself for being gay, thus inciting bigotry and animosity himself.

But didn't it have the opposite effect?

Oh, but what about charging him for a Hate Crime for hating on himself!

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 Sinful Hero wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
 Sinful Hero wrote:
A hate crime? For what?


Probably under the argument that he was alleging multiple hate crimes against himself for being gay, thus inciting bigotry and animosity himself.

But didn't it have the opposite effect?

Oh, but what about charging him for a Hate Crime for hating on himself!


Read the comments section on any site that carried this story and you'll see the Mormon faith local to that area blamed for the crime, despite every article stating that such crimes have never occurred in the area in recent memory. A minority faith was painted in a very bad light because of this crime, and I think a special kind of penalty should be leveled against this fraud.

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But did he actually level at charges at them? If not, it's just fraud.

Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
 kronk wrote:
Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
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Now some real real victims will be ignored or attacked because of this.
   
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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
But did he actually level at charges at them? If not, it's just fraud.


I think in todays socio-political environment, we know who is getting a finger pointed at first for such crimes, accusation or not. Other people can and will accuse on his behalf. I believe there should be a penalty for the way such a crime can divide a community.


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Relapse wrote:
Now some real real victims will be ignored or attacked because of this.


It really shouldn't if the facts and evidence make sense. But you're right, some folks will jump to conclusions and cast aspersions, either way.

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Not surprised at all here. I thought it smelled fishy from the start and after nels pointed those things out it became pretty obvious for me.
Now I think he himself should be charged with a hate crime against gays

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 nels1031 wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
But did he actually level at charges at them? If not, it's just fraud.


I think in todays socio-political environment, we know who is getting a finger pointed at first for such crimes, accusation or not. Other people can and will accuse on his behalf. I believe there should be a penalty for the way such a crime can divide a community.




Perhaps, but this AFAIK, there is nothing under the law for that. They can charge him with fraud, but that's it.

Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
 kronk wrote:
Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
 BaronIveagh wrote:
Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
 
   
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At the least, everyone knows this dumb feth and what he did.

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 nels1031 wrote:
 Sinful Hero wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
 Sinful Hero wrote:
A hate crime? For what?


Probably under the argument that he was alleging multiple hate crimes against himself for being gay, thus inciting bigotry and animosity himself.

But didn't it have the opposite effect?

Oh, but what about charging him for a Hate Crime for hating on himself!


Read the comments section on any site that carried this story and you'll see the Mormon faith local to that area blamed for the crime, despite every article stating that such crimes have never occurred in the area in recent memory. A minority faith was painted in a very bad light because of this crime, and I think a special kind of penalty should be leveled against this fraud.


Minority faith? On what planet do you dwell that the Mormons are a minority faith?

I think in todays socio-political environment, we know who is getting a finger pointed at first for such crimes, accusation or not. Other people can and will accuse on his behalf. I believe there should be a penalty for the way such a crime can divide a community.


Then Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck should both be in jail. Hell, all of FoxNews should be in jail.

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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
 nels1031 wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
But did he actually level at charges at them? If not, it's just fraud.


I think in todays socio-political environment, we know who is getting a finger pointed at first for such crimes, accusation or not. Other people can and will accuse on his behalf. I believe there should be a penalty for the way such a crime can divide a community.




Perhaps, but this AFAIK, there is nothing under the law for that. They can charge him with fraud, but that's it.


You're right. I meant to start off my reply with a "True, but..."


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 Psienesis wrote:
Minority faith? On what planet do you dwell that the Mormons are a minority faith?



Planet Earth, specifically United States. Where Mormons are massively dwarfed by mainline Protestants and Catholics, thus making them a minority faith. What planet do you live on where they are a majority faith? If I'm wrong and the Mormon faith exploded with converts while I wasn't looking, please show me some facts.


Then Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck should both be in jail. Hell, all of FoxNews should be in jail.


Have they concocted false crimes and painted them as hate crimes?

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 nels1031 wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
But did he actually level at charges at them? If not, it's just fraud.


I think in todays socio-political environment, we know who is getting a finger pointed at first for such crimes, accusation or not. Other people can and will accuse on his behalf. I believe there should be a penalty for the way such a crime can divide a community.


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Relapse wrote:
Now some real real victims will be ignored or attacked because of this.


It really shouldn't if the facts and evidence make sense. But you're right, some folks will jump to conclusions and cast aspersions, either way.


Yep. Just checked a couple comment sections to do with this story and already some statements are being made about faked hate crimes probably being responsible for most reports or people wanting to be victimized. This guy really screwed the pooch.
   
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 Sinful Hero wrote:
Oh, but what about charging him for a Hate Crime for hating on himself!


Does this mean if a gay person attempts suicide and fails, then they get charged with a hate crime?

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I called this one as not adding up on page one.

Is this a tragedy because people wont be so easy to believe claims of hate crime?

Or is it actually blessing because it will lead people not to believe that all claims of hate crime are automatically warranted.

Frankly I think the latter, there is a double bias in these cases, first societal need to believe a protected minority, and second a societal anger against those who are accused of breaking taboos. Savvy protected peoples are often more than aware of the power now placed in thier hands to label and ruin others, with paedoscare being the most frequently encountered problem. As a fair number of vindictive young people have lie to get a adult into a huge amount of trouble, and many lives have been ruined by this, authorities are wise to these abuses.
All in all exposure of fake cases is a good thing, because the automatic belief if someone due to their protected status while having the veneer of equality is in fact very unequal, having privileged access to support by claiming to be victimised due to minority status is also unequal.
Real equality comes when protected status affords no special protection, just the guarantee of normal civic protection, and these offending s special status individual are not treated any more harshly than an offense against anyone else.

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 nels1031 wrote:
Knew it from the start.




Yeah you called that from the very get go.

I guess the only silver lining is the community support that emerged from it? Happy to see hatred (albeit faked) met with its proper 21st century response.

   
 
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