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 ImAGeek wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:
Well it's not like Jurassic Park is big on accuracy anyway. Set aside the whole feathers thing, the Velociraptors in JP are 2-4x the size of the actual species bearing that name. Really what the franchise calls a Velociraptor is closer in size to the Utahraptor (same genus, different species).

I wish they'd addressed it in this one, just a little offhand comment like 'oh they aren't actually velociraptor. We got the name wrong then...' Or something like that, but it's not a big deal really.

They did though.

They acknowledged it in the film where the owner guy is chewing out the geneticist guy for creating the iRex. Geneticist guy says something along the lines of "We filled in the DNA code all the time with different animals. When the DNA was pure, we modified it anyway to reflect the public's perception of what a dinosaur looks like".

Feathered Dinos ain't money.

Exactly. They knew what some of the complaints would be and had multiple characters address said issues in the film to give the audience a voice in film. Honestly, I find that VERY refreshing.

I can't believe Frazzled didn't post this.

Got to see this last night with a friend

Damn that movie was great

Great pace, some very funny lines , lads of cool Dinos and just an all round great movie - may now be my fav in the series.

Loved the whole - none of these creatures are as they were - we made them up to fuflill what the audiance wanted - both in universe and out

Looking forward to the next one............

I went to see this this weekend. I went to see cool CGI dinosaurs, and I saw some. It was a fun movie.

I miss the old animatronics. There, I said it.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I miss the old animatronics. There, I said it.

I feel the same, although the cgi was really good

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I miss the old animatronics. There, I said it.

I feel the same, although the cgi was really good

Ehhhhh. No its terrible. (Animation student here)

the thing is that it was just bad. There was no way those were any where near realistic to the older.

I mean here choose which one is the most realistic.






Which one is more realistic? The top one right?

Yeah that is partially animtronic and CGI combined, to trick the human mind into thinking it looks real,

The reason animtronics are so effect is that you use it conjuction to CGI, too much CGI will lead to terrible graphics and people just knowing that is CGI and becoming completely uninvested in the movie.

It is a very common thing and hence why I hated Jurassic world. Practical effects are always going to superior to just CGI. CGI will never get to that point if we abuse that.

The water splashing doesn't look very good.

I'm old fashinoned I just watch the film and hope to enjoy it.

The effects were good enough for me and the plot - so no issues.

At least it was not just "effects" like a C Nolan film.

The only bit we (friend and I) we thought was funny was the helicopter at the start - it was very similar to the one in Hot Shot Part II - where it lands and some one picks it up as its obviously a toy

 kronk wrote:
The water splashing doesn't look very good.

Needs moar water droplets.

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I miss the old animatronics. There, I said it.

I feel the same, although the cgi was really good

Ehhhhh. No its terrible. (Animation student here)

the thing is that it was just bad. There was no way those were any where near realistic to the older.

I mean here choose which one is the most realistic.






Which one is more realistic? The top one right?

Yeah that is partially animtronic and CGI combined, to trick the human mind into thinking it looks real,

The reason animtronics are so effect is that you use it conjuction to CGI, too much CGI will lead to terrible graphics and people just knowing that is CGI and becoming completely uninvested in the movie.

It is a very common thing and hence why I hated Jurassic world. Practical effects are always going to superior to just CGI. CGI will never get to that point if we abuse that.

Hold on for a second- I hate to argue with you but you're taking the two images out of context.

The park image is a mostly static pose, used for a lot of promotions. The world picture is a creature in motion. Although World is used in a lot of trailers, it's not used in static promotions like magazine ads, collectible cards, and such like the park picture was.

Saw it the other night and we both enjoyed it. I wasn't expecting anything ground breaking, just a lot of dino on dino action and I got what I wanted. I was actually happy for that final killshot, I would have clapped if I was a clapper.

Interesting tidbit, The Village was on the sci fi channel last night.. I was watching it struggling to remember where I saw the 2 girls recently, then fired up IMDB. Bryce dallas howard and the kids' mom were sisters in Jurrasic World and in The Village like 10 years earlier. Small (jurrasic) world I guess.

The ending fight scene felt like it was made by a 5 year old boy while he was smashing truck toys with t-rex toys.

Some parts of it were good though outside of that.

Really enjoyed it. My only beef was the Mosasaur. That thing was about 5 times bigger then it should have been.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
The ending fight scene felt like it was made by a 5 year old boy while he was smashing truck toys with t-rex toys.

Some parts of it were good though outside of that.

That was probably designed with the lego game in mind

 djones520 wrote:
Really enjoyed it. My only beef was the Mosasaur. That thing was about 5 times bigger then it should have been.

Eh... I knew that, but that head geneticist actually said something to the effect that they engineered these animals to be more what the consumers want, and not necessarily if it's the "right" dino specs.

It made truckloads of cash... so, I'm expecting MOAR!

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
The ending fight scene felt like it was made by a 5 year old boy while he was smashing truck toys with t-rex toys.

That's why I liked it!

"Rar! Smash! Chomp!"

"Kronk, we're on a conference call, man..."

The coolest part. The T-rex was never actually seen until the end. Yeah, Snippets of it, but when it comes out, the original theme plays AND it burst through the damn spinosaurus Skeleton. I mean DAMN that was cool


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What I liked about indominus rex was that it had no real instincts. It was a hybrid, it didnt have them bred into them, and being raised alone lead to it being VERY confused when it got out


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 Swastakowey wrote:


The flying creatures, looking back at when I was obsessed with dinos, are thought to have preyed on fish, bugs and small creatures because they don't have the mouths for chewing. How would any of those flying creatures actually eaten any of the humans they attacked? To me this stuck out as a bad idea for something scary.
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My guess, Raised in the Aviary and then let loose sent them into a confused frenzy. Attacking, Not eating, anything in sight

How many people did they (Pterodactyls?) actually kill? Like, confirmed on screen deaths? I saw a lot of people being knocked over, and bitten, and lifted through the air and dropped, but I don't recall people actually dying on screen. The only one I know of was the assistant/babysitter who got lifted over the water (but really it was the Mosasaur that killed them both).

Contrast that with the escaped T-Rex in San Siego (Lost World), it killed a lot more civilians IIRC.

So guys, What do you think the sequel will be like?
And We are getting one. Chris said he is signed for more, it blew up the box office, getting good reviews, We are getting one.
But what do you think? Maybe taking back the park? or a prequel on how they took back the island?

I don't think any truly confirmed(pg-13 rating after all), but a few were dropped from a very good height, and I could have sworn a 2-3 were stabbed in the chest and bitten on the face.

Would be interesting to know kill-counts for both films. The original was 5 iirc(Lawyer, Nedry, Muldoon, Tech guy, guy at the cage).


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So guys, What do you think the sequel will be like?
And We are getting one. Chris said he is signed for more, it blew up the box office, getting good reviews, We are getting one.
But what do you think? Maybe taking back the park? or a prequel on how they took back the island?

My guess? Escape to the mainland.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So guys, What do you think the sequel will be like?
And We are getting one. Chris said he is signed for more, it blew up the box office, getting good reviews, We are getting one.
But what do you think? Maybe taking back the park? or a prequel on how they took back the island?

Safari Tours.


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 Sinful Hero wrote:

Would be interesting to know kill-counts for both films. The original was 5 iirc(Lawyer, Nedry, Muldoon, Tech guy, guy at the cage).

Arnold, I believe his name was.

The sequel will be called Jurassic War, with the tagline being "war finds a way". It will be about American-made dinosaurs with huge laser-gattling-cannons and missile-launchers mounted on their bodies fighting Chinese-made dinosaurs with laser-gattling-cannons and missiles mounted on their bodies in San Francisco. It will star Chris Pratt, Jeff Goldbloom and Arnold Schwarzenegger as an insane Muldoon.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
The sequel will be called Jurassic War, with the tag being "war finds a way". It will be about American-made dinosaurs with huge laser-gattling-cannons and missiles mounted on their bodies fighting Chinese-made dinosaurs with laser-gattling-cannons and missiles mounted on their bodies atop the Golden Gate Bridge. It will star Chris Pratt, Jeff Goldbloom and Arnold Schwarzenegger as an insane Muldoon.

I was gonna guess it would be a light hearted political movie about the US using army dinos to maul their enemies in 3rd world countries. Tag teams of humans and animals hunt down resistance and the story can be about 2 brave kids who rise from the ashes of a dino attack and become friends with a wounded raptor that is left behind. Over the course of the movie the raptor learns that these boys are not the enemies they had been raised to maul. After learning the english language he gets back to his unit and leads his fellow dinosaurs into a revolt against human rule. During this revolt he forgets his newly found humanity and it takes seeing the kids about to be slaughtered by a stegosaurus to realise he has become the very thing he hates.... humans.

The end is a dinotopia with talking dinosaurs and all the nations become one. The ending is a statue of the raptor in the form of that famous Abraham Lincoln statue.

The final installment of the trilogy will be about the issue surrounding dinosaur and human partnerships.

 Asherian Command wrote:


I mean here choose which one is the most realistic.





Which one is more realistic? The top one right?
Yeah that is partially animtronic and CGI combined, to trick the human mind into thinking it looks real,
The reason animtronics are so effect is that you use it conjuction to CGI, too much CGI will lead to terrible graphics and people just knowing that is CGI and becoming completely uninvested in the movie.
It is a very common thing and hence why I hated Jurassic world. Practical effects are always going to superior to just CGI. CGI will never get to that point if we abuse that.

I dont think that is it at all. The bottom dinosaur, or gaiju as I called it on the earlier trailer thread is WAY TOO BIG.
Humans have depth perception and and sense of proportion, see a horse or a man and you get an idea how far away he is based on the size, you can even judge the height of a distant man. The oversized bottom sea monster hits all the subliminal bs triggers. Its completely irrationally out of scale and is processed by the brain as an anomaly. T Rex is bigger than animals we see in real life, but is of a scale we are prepared for and also have scaling objects close by..

I can tell both are fake, because neither are real and are not really dinos.
Listen, what you do in these films is put yourself in the movie. Yeah, it isnt real, but to the characters it is. What they are seeing is real.

In all seriousness, probably an unoriginal rehash of Lost World.

Following a public relations disaster in which many park visitors and park staff were killed including the CEO, and countless more injured, the company's share price has tanked. The island is quarantined, the dinosaurs are left to their own devices and the park becomes a nature reserve once again.

A team of intrepid scientists, conservationists and film makers are sent to study the dinosaurs, but they have to face off against a big bad corporation seeking to use the dinosaurs for their own ends and profit margins (probably some Private Military Company looking to weaponize them somehow, following the Military Raptors plot hook in JW).

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So guys, What do you think the sequel will be like?
And We are getting one. Chris said he is signed for more, it blew up the box office, getting good reviews, We are getting one.
But what do you think? Maybe taking back the park? or a prequel on how they took back the island?

Safari Tours.


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 Sinful Hero wrote:

Would be interesting to know kill-counts for both films. The original was 5 iirc(Lawyer, Nedry, Muldoon, Tech guy guy at the cage).

Arnold, I believe his name was.

It was, I had a mind blank. Lawyer had a name too, but I don't think the guard in the first sequence was named.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So guys, What do you think the sequel will be like?
And We are getting one. Chris said he is signed for more, it blew up the box office, getting good reviews, We are getting one.
But what do you think? Maybe taking back the park? or a prequel on how they took back the island?

It did better than super hero movies, there will be 2 more jurassic movies. The war idea sounds like fun. A 2 part movie on how dino's start showing up in america like starwars 2 & 3. you'd think a neighboring land mass, but it's hollywood, they need the shot of t-rex knocking down the hollywood sign or part 2 might just be a lone dino in eating people like lake placid & the croc