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This is the first appearance of the new Eldar. Lets see what this codex has to offer Vs. the number one ITC player.

any chances to have a short resume and eventually lists of both players?
can't see videos from where I am

Love the "not optimal" commentary Reece, I was also surprised at the wraiths jumping out that early and their rides blowing their shields too.

As the marine player, scouting onto objectives is super powerful, but scouting into the face of the d-slap, wraith-stomp, and council smash was a ballsy move!

Thanks for sharing, although I do miss those summary style batreps FLG used to do.

did they change the White Scar chapter tactics to allow Hit and Run being granted to Very bulky models? In the old codex you couldn't do that. IE: Khan giving hit and run to the Cents.

All White Scars models can hit & run now.

 ibushi wrote:
Love the "not optimal" commentary Reece, I was also surprised at the wraiths jumping out that early and their rides blowing their shields too.

As the marine player, scouting onto objectives is super powerful, but scouting into the face of the d-slap, wraith-stomp, and council smash was a ballsy move!

Thanks for sharing, although I do miss those summary style batreps FLG used to do.

Yeah... the idea that someone is going to watch someone else play WH40k for 2.5 hours is kind of insane. Written or summary reports are much better.

Long form reports are good to have on in the background while you paint, so I like a mix of battle report formats.

 ibushi wrote:
Love the "not optimal" commentary Reece, I was also surprised at the wraiths jumping out that early and their rides blowing their shields too.

As the marine player, scouting onto objectives is super powerful, but scouting into the face of the d-slap, wraith-stomp, and council smash was a ballsy move!

Thanks for sharing, although I do miss those summary style batreps FLG used to do.

One of the reasons why you deploy your wraiths and pop your serpent shields early is because they are such a high priority target. If your opponent had any knowledge of Eldar, in most cases, he will blow up the wraithguard's serpent and then they will have to footslog. Thus, it is better to get them as close to the action and as early as possible. Then if your opponent wrecks your ride, the WG will be in range to do some damage. If not, then they can just disembark and do damage. Of course this is assuming your opponent has adequate ranged shooting to take out that wave serpent.

Also, by disembarking early, now you've got a huge threat to your opponent which will act as a bullet magnet for a little while, thus allowing the rest of the army to do their offense relatively unmolested until the threat of the WG is eliminated. And when you are talking about scatterbikes, the more time they have to shoot, the better.

It is in the Marine players best interest to get onto the objectives and start accumulating points from Maelstrom/Progressive objectives early. That's much better than to have your rides shot down in your own deployment zone and now you have to footslog to the objectives against crazy Eldar firepower and a deathstar to boot.

 jy2 wrote:

 ibushi wrote:
Love the "not optimal" commentary Reece, I was also surprised at the wraiths jumping out that early and their rides blowing their shields too.

As the marine player, scouting onto objectives is super powerful, but scouting into the face of the d-slap, wraith-stomp, and council smash was a ballsy move!

Thanks for sharing, although I do miss those summary style batreps FLG used to do.

One of the reasons why you deploy your wraiths and pop your serpent shields early is because they are such a high priority target. If your opponent had any knowledge of Eldar, in most cases, he will blow up the wraithguard's serpent and then they will have to footslog. Thus, it is better to get them as close to the action and as early as possible. Then if your opponent wrecks your ride, the WG will be in range to do some damage. If not, then they can just disembark and do damage. Of course this is assuming your opponent has adequate ranged shooting to take out that wave serpent.

This makes no sense, you want to disembark your wraiths early so that when later when your opponent wrecks your ride they can be in range? and if they don't destroy the WS you plan on disembarking the already disembarked passengers? Getting closer to the fight is not disembarking after moving 6 inches out of your deployment, it is moving 12 then if needed a flat out move and be wherever you want/need to be. Also since you are a high priority target why get rid of one of the things that protects you from being destroyed before it ever got any defensive use?

Also, by disembarking early, now you've got a huge threat to your opponent which will act as a bullet magnet for a little while, thus allowing the rest of the army to do their offense relatively unmolested until the threat of the WG is eliminated. And when you are talking about scatterbikes, the more time they have to shoot, the better.

You know what is a bigger threat than WG outside of a transport? WG inside of a transport. More mobility and much less likely to lose models to shooting because they have this AV12 box in the way. I will admit that this could lead to them ignoring the WG because it is to much firepower to try and blow up the WS and then try and shoot the WG, but then you have 5 WG with D-scythes that can just disembark and to damage.

Kaela_Mensha_Khaine wrote:

 jy2 wrote:

 ibushi wrote:
Love the "not optimal" commentary Reece, I was also surprised at the wraiths jumping out that early and their rides blowing their shields too.

As the marine player, scouting onto objectives is super powerful, but scouting into the face of the d-slap, wraith-stomp, and council smash was a ballsy move!

Thanks for sharing, although I do miss those summary style batreps FLG used to do.

One of the reasons why you deploy your wraiths and pop your serpent shields early is because they are such a high priority target. If your opponent had any knowledge of Eldar, in most cases, he will blow up the wraithguard's serpent and then they will have to footslog. Thus, it is better to get them as close to the action and as early as possible. Then if your opponent wrecks your ride, the WG will be in range to do some damage. If not, then they can just disembark and do damage. Of course this is assuming your opponent has adequate ranged shooting to take out that wave serpent.

This makes no sense, you want to disembark your wraiths early so that when later when your opponent wrecks your ride they can be in range? and if they don't destroy the WS you plan on disembarking the already disembarked passengers? Getting closer to the fight is not disembarking after moving 6 inches out of your deployment, it is moving 12 then if needed a flat out move and be wherever you want/need to be. Also since you are a high priority target why get rid of one of the things that protects you from being destroyed before it ever got any defensive use?

Also, by disembarking early, now you've got a huge threat to your opponent which will act as a bullet magnet for a little while, thus allowing the rest of the army to do their offense relatively unmolested until the threat of the WG is eliminated. And when you are talking about scatterbikes, the more time they have to shoot, the better.

You know what is a bigger threat than WG outside of a transport? WG inside of a transport. More mobility and much less likely to lose models to shooting because they have this AV12 box in the way. I will admit that this could lead to them ignoring the WG because it is to much firepower to try and blow up the WS and then try and shoot the WG, but then you have 5 WG with D-scythes that can just disembark and to damage.

 Silverthorne wrote:

 ibushi wrote:
Love the "not optimal" commentary Reece, I was also surprised at the wraiths jumping out that early and their rides blowing their shields too.

As the marine player, scouting onto objectives is super powerful, but scouting into the face of the d-slap, wraith-stomp, and council smash was a ballsy move!

Thanks for sharing, although I do miss those summary style batreps FLG used to do.

Yeah... the idea that someone is going to watch someone else play WH40k for 2.5 hours is kind of insane. Written or summary reports are much better.

I watched it and enjoyed it. It got less interesting once grant (that's the eldar players name right?) got called away. Primarily because it meant losing Reece's commentary but also because the game lost its tension.

Something i would enjoy is more discussion on why the 2 sides deploy how they deploy.

Overall very enjoyable. Overhead view would be a nice additional camera angle if possible. Could be nice for inbetween turns overview.l shot.

My Griffons!!!!

Yeah, we will be striving to get 1-2 long and short form bat reps out a week, thank you very much for the feedback, everyone!