WTF Moments in the AoS Rules

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**Bronzefists42**

I feel like someone will make an unofficial rules update that could make it somewhat enjoyable to play.

Does have some things I like.

**Mr Morden**

welshhoppo wrote:
From Nagash

HAnd oF dust
It is said that the touch of Nagash can wither and age any mortal, turning them to little more than a pile of dusty bones
in mere moments. Hand of Dust has a casting value of 8. If successfully cast, pick an enemy model within 3". Then, take a dice and hide it in one of your hands. Hold your hands in front of your opponent and ask them to pick one. If they pick the one holding the dice, their model dodges the attack. If not, the model is turned to dust and is slain!

And it doesn't say 2d6, it says two dice. Find some d20s and roll them.

"Sigh" - would anyone try to pull that in another game - also IIRC the first page of the rules says use D6's - guess 4 pages is too much for people to read................

**Haight**

welshhoppo wrote:
Someone said it in the news and rumours thread. They may be lying, but I could tell you.

I can say that, if you use Marius the mad count, you get bonuses for pretending to ride and talk to an invisible horse. If you use Konrad vin Carlson, you gain bonuses for talking to him, and even more if he talks back.

So he could be lying, but they actually fit in with the new rules.

I haven't seen stabbed or kneel, but there is a benefit to having Konrad Von Carstein talk back to you, there is a stupid moustache one, there is one for the masque of slaneesh if you're dancing, wulfrik the wanderer gets bonuses if you make someone lose their poker face by ... insulting them (i am not even gaking you), and a couple others.

**Boss Salvage**

Buttlerthepug wrote:
RiTides wrote:
Thanks for the writeup of your thoughts last page Salvage, and yeah... I was very open to this but everything I've seen has made me start looking elsewhere. Curious how the Darklands rulebook will look when it releases (hopefully this summer). But what to use all these chaos dwarfs for now...!? Of course that's always been a problem for long-suffering CD fans, it's just now more people will be joining in that conundrum.
I have high hopes for Darklands. A few friends and I went deep into to the game... I've got like 4 largish armies at this point. We've played it a few times with their Quickstart rules and so far have liked it, as it's a much more "realistic" feeling game. I definitely foresee us moving over to mainly that and Kings of War / 8th, since AOS is just horrendous.

And you know, as much as people point to GeeDub's minis as justification for playing AOS ... I vastly prefer the Dark Lands aesthetic, naughty bits and all

The downside of course is that I don't particularly want to play a skirmish fantasy game right now. Malifaux is close enough for me, and I do have WoK should I need me some.

- Salvage

**Da krimson barun**

The 40k and Fantasy rules have often been described as bloated,fat and more complicated then necessary. The solution SHOULD have been to put the game on basically a diet and make it more streamlined like LOTR. Instead they cut away all the flesh and left us with the skeleton of fantasy. Four pages of skeleton.

**slamma**

what's the point of doing conversions any more? everything is given "rules" that are wysiwyg with the box for that specific model… i think?
where's the customization?
this seems like a huge step away from the previous game. and as a 40k player as well, i'm wondering why they moved this far in this direction, and if they will do the same to 40k.

currently, i'm not psyched, but hopeful i guess...

**Ratius**

Anyone notice the Dwarf units are called Duardin but all their warmachines still say Dwarf bolt thrower, organ gun etc. Weird.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Actually the scroll itself is still called Dwarfs too.

**Sigvatr**

Ratius wrote:
Anyone notice the Dwarf units are called Duardin but all their warmachines still say Dwarf bolt thrower, organ gun etc. Weird.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Actually the scroll itself is still called Dwarfs too.

Could either be laziness or GW not caring because "bolt thrower" or "organ gun" cannot get a copyright anyway.

**Kilkrazy**

GW have never been good at proof reading.