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Okay, here's the sum up of why I'm asking this question: I've been playing 40k for a rather long time (two years of the first edition dark angels codex) and I've been playing Dark Angels for a total of four years. I bought the second edition (the one that seemed to have a lot of mistakes and GW had to upload the fixes on their website) around a year ago and was rather content with the Codex. I left WH40k for the last two months since I had to study for some exams and I just came back to 40k last week.

Okay. Today I went on the GW store to check out some of the new releases and saw that there was a very strange Dark Angels Codex. Didn't look like the one I had bought a year ago. Is there any difference between this "new" codex than the one that was released with the new W40k (besides correcting the mistakes of the second DA Codex)?

Cheers

There was no "First edition DA codex" Just saying. They appeared in 2nd and shared a codex with BA.

Yeah, they have a new codex out. You probably could have asked the storeperson while you were there instead of waiting till you got online. Typical of recent releases it's a huge upgrade and you should spend all your money.

You have 2nd and 3rd Edition DA codex?

Okay, I was just being me. So to better understand your question, I assume you played the DA codex for 4th Edition 40K:


and you bought the one for the 6th Edition 40K:

Correct?

Well the new DA codex is for the 7th Edition Warhammer 40,000 game. From what I've heard, it has many subtle and non subtle changes, most notable of which are the ones that made it competitive in 7th Edition, like the addition of several formations. It seems some units have their rules adjusted too.

Basically, if you want to play 7th Edition Warhammer 40000, you need to have the new codex. Even if your group allows you to run 6th Edition DA you are now vastly underpowered for it.

If, by 'second edition codex' you mean the first hardcover version, then yes, the one you saw in the shop was probably the replacement for that one. The first hardcover was the 6th edition codex. The current one is the codex for 7th edition.

GW don't release a new codex to fix the errors in the previous one. They do it to change things around so that you buy more models. And the new book, obviously.








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 lcmiracle wrote:

Basically, if you want to play 7th Edition Warhammer 40000, you need to have the new codex.

Well, you don't need to. The prevous book didn't suddenly stop functioning just because a new book was released.


It's a generally accepted convention that the current book should be used, and it will generally fit better with the current edition's rules. But it's not actually compulsory.

Alright. Thanks for all the clarification guys.

*deep sigh* Time to buy another codex...

There's no reason to continue using the 6th lol, it's horrible and was crap from the start due to being GW's test tube baby for the 6th Ed. The 7th Edition Dark Angel Codex is not only awesome, it's catapulted them from being among the most shoddy armies of the game that just gets shot off the table. Ravenwing got excellent buffs as did Greenwing. The only part of the 'Dex that is still mediocre is Deathwing.

Buy it, troll your friends with interromancy.

 Wyzilla wrote:
There's no reason to continue using the 6th lol, it's horrible and was crap from the start due to being GW's test tube baby for the 6th Ed. The 7th Edition Dark Angel Codex is not only awesome, it's catapulted them from being among the most shoddy armies of the game that just gets shot off the table. Ravenwing got excellent buffs as did Greenwing. The only part of the 'Dex that is still mediocre is Deathwing.

Buy it, troll your friends with interromancy.

Thank you for this insight on the new Codex. Helped me a lot.

Cheers!

MarsNZ wrote:
There was no "First edition DA codex" Just saying. They appeared in 2nd and shared a codex with BA.

Yeah, they have a new codex out. You probably could have asked the storeperson while you were there instead of waiting till you got online. Typical of recent releases it's a huge upgrade and you should spend all your money.

Just to complete the DA rules timeline we are making here.

3rd edition DA were a page out of white dwarf. I still have it.

Then the 4th edition softback the guy up above has pictures of.

Didn't DA get a minidex back in third? The type without a spine on it? I'm pretty sure they did. BA and SW both had one. I'm at work and can't check my bookshelf, but I have every codex and white dwarf until I stopped playing regularly around 4th edition.

Nvs wrote:
Didn't DA get a minidex back in third? The type without a spine on it? I'm pretty sure they did. BA and SW both had one. I'm at work and can't check my bookshelf, but I have every codex and white dwarf until I stopped playing regularly around 4th edition.

This is correct.

Dark Angels codex books produced and editions:

2nd edition: (not sure when published)
Codex Angels of Death (shared book with blood angels)

3rd edition (not sure when published)
Codex Dark Angels
Codex Dark Angels revised edition (great book!)

4th edition (iirc winter 2006?)
Codex Dark Angels (worst... book... ever)

6th edition (summer 2013)
Codex Dark Angels
Limited Edition Codex Dark Angels (2000 made)
Mini-sized codex Dark Angels (LE, unknown how many made)

7th edition (summer 2015)
Codex Dark Angels
Reclusiam Edition Dark Angels Codex (900 made)

 455_PWR wrote:
Dark Angels codex books produced and editions:

2nd edition: (1996)
Codex Angels of Death (shared book with blood angels)

3rd edition (May 1999 (first print)/ Nov 2002 (updated second print))
Codex Dark Angels
Codex Dark Angels revised edition (great book!)

4th edition (March 2007)
Codex Dark Angels (worst... book... ever)

6th edition (January 2013)
Codex Dark Angels
Limited Edition Codex Dark Angels (2000 made)
Mini-sized codex Dark Angels (LE, unknown how many made)

7th edition (June 2015)
Codex Dark Angels
Reclusiam Edition Dark Angels Codex (900 made)

Updated the dates in your post

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_(Warhammer_40,000)

I've got a page from a white dwarf that was the DA codex for a while from early 2000 or late 1990's. Maybe it was for the time between 3rd and 4th editions.

EDIT: Maybe i've been playing longer than I remember!

effreem wrote:
I've got a page from a white dwarf that was the DA codex for a while from early 2000 or late 1990's. Maybe it was for the time between 3rd and 4th editions.

EDIT: Maybe i've been playing longer than I remember!

It's possible there was something between launch of 3rd and the 1999 codex.

The white dwarf codex was actually just an update to the 3rd edition codex. The 3rd edition codex wasnt anywhere close to being competitive and they updated the rules through white dwarf. It was very minor stuff though, points adjustments a couple rules changes. The 'revised' 3rd edition codex was those changes officially printed into the codex. I never bought the revised codex, instead I cut out the page from the white dwarf and put it in my codex

They did the same revision with the Dark Eldar.

Essentially the Dark Eldar suffered from being the second codex of 3rd edition and not having much of anything in it like every other book (like vehicle upgrades and such).

Though you could blow your brains out with combat drugs if you took enough.

Sorry I'm off topic. The new "Adeptus Astartes: Dark Angels" is the current book. It has lots of formations and if you run the Lion's Blade (the DA verison of the Combined Arms Detachment) you get some neat buffs, like being really good at shooting people who are charging at you with an axe...

Nuwisha wrote:
They did the same revision with the Dark Eldar.

Essentially the Dark Eldar suffered from being the second codex of 3rd edition and not having much of anything in it like every other book (like vehicle upgrades and such).

Though you could blow your brains out with combat drugs if you took enough.

Sorry I'm off topic. The new "Adeptus Astartes: Dark Angels" is the current book. It has lots of formations and if you run the Lion's Blade (the DA verison of the Combined Arms Detachment) you get some neat buffs, like being really good at shooting people who are charging at you with an axe...

which is such an oddity because charges and cc happen so rarely on the table anymore unless your facing other armies with the intent of having cc.