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Has there been any preview of the concept art of the new elves or dwarfs?

 Manchu wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
@Manchu, Slaanesh missing seems to be part of the new campaign(s)

His minions are still part of the game though

A confusing state of affairs! I will be glad when we have a better idea of at least what the mystery is, if not its actual resolution. Right now, we know there is a cliff hanger but we're not sure which mountain this cliff is on ...

Slaanesh is hiding while pregnant with the next Chaos God , you don't want to hazard a guess as who the "father" is .

 Theophony wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
@Manchu, Slaanesh missing seems to be part of the new campaign(s)

His minions are still part of the game though

A confusing state of affairs! I will be glad when we have a better idea of at least what the mystery is, if not its actual resolution. Right now, we know there is a cliff hanger but we're not sure which mountain this cliff is on ...

Slaanesh is hiding while pregnant with the next Chaos God , you don't want to hazard a guess as who the "father" is .

Valten!!

Would be a proper backhand to Sigmar for letting him die.

I hate the map. It just drives home the point that this is not a world. It's just a bunch of "fantasy" thrown at a wall.

 Theophony wrote:
Slaanesh is hiding while pregnant with the next Chaos God , you don't want to hazard a guess as who the "father" is .

Slaanesh is also the father. Duh.

Please do not confuse Boltstormers for Stormbolters.

 AlexHolker wrote:
I hate the map. It just drives home the point that this is not a world. It's just a bunch of "fantasy" thrown at a wall.

Disagree. I thnk this sort of pre-modern conception of the world is appropriate to a fantasy setting and has always been more or less of an factor. For example, where would you have located the Warp on a map of the previous World of Warhammer ("Mallus")? WHFB evoked modern conceptions of geography because it aped the Enlightment; but it was no more a "world" than the Nine Realms for doing so.

All the floaty trees and lack of normal laws of physics rather harkened back to the original John Blanche art from the 80's/90's, tidied up a bit though.

Yeah, the new setting is essentially old Wastes of Chaos.

Maps and artwork looks great. The story's interesting too.

Wouldn't be Workshop if it didn't borrow heavily from established concepts though, would it?

It is quite similiar to the one in the Daemon army book:



The cartography style is like those handdrawn maps made hundreds of years ago, back when a disc was stuck on four elephants who stand on the back of a gigantic turtle floating through space, or something similiar imaginative and (obviously) inaccurate. It has some charme imho, especially if it is used to show Chaos territory. The Escher way of painting would fit Chaos really well.

I hope it's not the only map in the entire future of AoS though, that would be gak.

I doubt it is, the text says its a single example of a campgain by Nurgle VS one realm of the Elves - that hardly encompasses the whole of the "New World".
Im hoping for more as I think its great.

I always want to start a lizardmen army! hope AoS will release nice lizardmen units.

Hmm, seeing all this art showing the old races in pretty much their current forms makes me wonder if they will be leaving them as they are after all. A big reservation I've had about even trying to get into WH-AOS was the possibility of purchasing an old race (for example, Wood Elves) and then seeing the entire line wiped and re-built into something entirely different and at a bigger scale.

Of course, that does seem to be against GW's prerogative with Fantasy, where they seem to want to control their spending in the event that AOS is a flop and dies. Wish they'd be a little more upfront about these changes, else I feel that we may see a WH-The Hesitancy, Round II of people not wanting to get burned by getting in too early.

In the UK Gw webstore the Putrid Blight Kings are listed as no longer available. Given that these were possibly designed with half an eye on AOS does this suggest a possible rebranded new box with round bases? http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Putrid-Blightkings

 Knight wrote:
Has there been any preview of the concept art of the new elves or dwarfs?

Nope. Rumors (of reliable sources) said Elfs (in whatever form) are next after Stormcast and Chaos

 Manchu wrote:
WHFB evoked modern conceptions of geography...

This is a copy of a map first drawn around 150 AD.

GW's map is not a map created by someone who understands geography, or even one that doesn't understand geography and poorly imitates his betters. It is a map drawn by someone who doesn't even realise that the Realm of Life is not the place to put your stupid skull mountains.

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
In the UK Gw webstore the Putrid Blight Kings are listed as no longer available. Given that these were possibly designed with half an eye on AOS does this suggest a possible rebranded new box with round bases? http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Putrid-Blightkings

Sounds like a safe bet.

£20 for something I can make from plasticard in 20 minutes.
I know it's metal but that price is just silly IMO.

 AlexHolker wrote:
GW's map is not a map created by someone who understands geography, or even one that doesn't understand geography and poorly imitates his betters. It is a map drawn by someone who doesn't even realise that the Realm of Life is not the place to put your stupid skull mountains.

Honestly, it is pretty obviously drawn by someone who is trying to evoke mythology rather than geography. If a conclusion you reach ever assumes that someone is a complete and utter moron, it is probably best to look for a different explanation.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Wouldn't be Workshop if it didn't borrow heavily from established concepts though, would it?

Spoiler:

I'm not sure about that but I do know that Jervis Johnson invented the attached double garage in the early 80's.


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 bubber wrote:
£20 for something I can make from plasticard in 20 minutes.
I know it's metal but that price is just silly IMO.

Do I smell a challenge.

Get your card out son.....

 AlexHolker wrote:
I hate the map. It just drives home the point that this is not a world. It's just a bunch of "fantasy" thrown at a wall.

This. The total lack of coherent world or effort in this new 'world' is the biggest reason I have no desire to even mess with AoS.

Wow. Lots of great stuff

Really love the artwork and fluff previewed! Will be picking up any fluff books that become available outside the box sets. I really want to like the rules (even tried them out) but I just don't like them, they come across incomplete and half a#£*d imo, in an industry that has a great choice of skirmish games releasing a ruleset that needs so much house rulling (don't need them in oter systems) is a bad move.

 Manchu wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:
GW's map is not a map created by someone who understands geography, or even one that doesn't understand geography and poorly imitates his betters. It is a map drawn by someone who doesn't even realise that the Realm of Life is not the place to put your stupid skull mountains.

Honestly, it is pretty obviously drawn by someone who is trying to evoke mythology rather than geography. If a conclusion you reach ever assumes that someone is a complete and utter moron, it is probably best to look for a different explanation.

This, Knowing nothing about geography has got nothing to do with it, there are many types of map and not all are geographical, especially in fantasy books.

 Manchu wrote:
Just reposting here as an FYI:

The painting guide is not great unless all you want is a\n exhaustive guide to exactly how the studio models were painted. There is very little fluff and no information about alternative paint schemes.

So in short it is like a guide... to how they painted it... interesting.

A lot the artwork is quite nice, but they really, really, really need to get some better writers.

What are those huge stone creatures on the background of the savage orc picture?

Man the SIgmarites are growing on me each time I look at them

 -DE- wrote:
The more I look at sigmarine art work, the more they seem to me as oppressors instead of saviors. Like some twisted tyrant's private army setting out to quell discontent under their iron-shod boots. They look positively pissed!

I plan to paint mine pretty grimdark. None of this bright clean holy armor. I in vision them already possessed by the chaos they are battling

Pardon me for not knowing former WHFB aesthetics... but the guy/priest on the chariot... does he have a 40k Purity Seal on him? :-p