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2015/08/16 11:01:44
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors: Quest for Ghal Maraz pics pg60
I know there are a lot of jokes about the rules, but i do wonder how they would handle it if someone turned up with 25 Glotkin or something similar as an army.
It wouldnt be fun for anybody, but is well within the rules and highlights the genuine flaws in the shiny new ruleset. I'm guessing they would have to turn that player away.
2015/08/16 13:22:32
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors: Quest for Ghal Maraz pics pg60
If the player is up to pay 2500+ $ to win, it's his god dam buisness. GW is not the only game that use the "pay to win" marketing. I don't really see why people flame about it.
Grrr.... Cheese make me fart...
2015/08/16 13:38:32
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors: Quest for Ghal Maraz pics pg60
It's interesting to note that the wee blurb there puts a pretty big hole in the hull of that whole "The players will write the story! Constant evolution! Down with settings!" idea, since all those great, storyline-evolving results only "count" in terms of future Warhammer World-run campaigns, and so functionally is no different from when you and a bunch of mates run a story campaign at your local club that nobody else who plays elsewhere - and certainly not GW - gives a gak about.
I give it two years before GW have exhausted their "Realmgate Wars" products/rerelases and gone back to timeline advances so fractional and minor that the folk celebrating the destruction of 30 years of fiction because it had become "stagnant" will want GW to blow it all up again. Once again demonstrating why settings are superior to ongoing narratives when dealing with interactive products.
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2015/08/16 13:38:49
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors: Quest for Ghal Maraz pics pg60
NoggintheNog wrote: I know there are a lot of jokes about the rules, but i do wonder how they would handle it if someone turned up with 25 Glotkin or something similar as an army.
It wouldnt be fun for anybody, but is well within the rules and highlights the genuine flaws in the shiny new ruleset. I'm guessing they would have to turn that player away.
Its not an every man for himself tournament, where one guy can come and wipe the floor with everyone, its about a battle of two factions and the only awards I am aware of are for the best army and the most sporting player.
Read the tourney pack and you will see what I mean, its supposed to be more fun based than competitive, its attracting a much different crowd, seems popular so far, not sure if it will last though.
2015/08/16 14:26:17
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumors: Quest for Ghal Maraz pics pg60
Sad Panda wrote: Sigmarines will be back for another wave, as will Khorne.
Dwarfs are early 2016 at best
Tzeentch is still a troll-rumour. Not gonna happen.
Stormcasts are obvious as there are units and characters models that have been seen but not released as of yet. Khorne only has two other new models to go, the rest will just be repacks
Tzeentch is no longer a troll rumour. The lord of change kit has been ready to go for a while. The novel with tzeentch character on the front gives a clue as well as everyone knows GW wont put out art without everything that goes with it remember their over protectiveness of their IP? and the next 40k daemonkin book is tzeentch. So safe to say tzeentch will be seeing a release oh and you know with tzeentch being rather prominent in the end of the first source book and now in the book that comes out this saturday its a no brainer tzeentch will be coming soon
This is pure speculation on your behalf. And to keep throwing around those unfounded tzeench rumors as facts, is more or less trolling. If you have new info that verify a tzeench release I would like to see some reference or source. If you contradict one of the most reliable rumor mongers, you need to back it up proprly.
Off topic, I always chuckle at the expression "no brainer", because you can usually read it as either "you dont need a brain" or "you dont have a brain", no offence to you prsonally intended, though
In your opinion its speculation. I'll throw whatever I like around. If i was trolling believe me it wouldn't be about tzeentch.
Throwing whatever around, and presenting it as facts, is actually trolling in my eyes.
Reliable rumour monger sad panda lol. All 25 posts I had seen on other forums already. He might be reliable to you but means nothing to me.
Yes, those 25 rumor post, 100% correct, is 25 rumors more than you have to show for, thats why I ask for a reference. Saying tzeench is incoming next month is pretty hot stuf if you had any reference to back it up.
Like any rumour it'll be right or wrong. Changes are made all the time. Its pot luck.
I see, every time you contradict a rumormonger or state whats coming next, its just pot luck, and we should not pay attention to it. Got it Actually I kind of agree with the above, if only you could aply it to your own speculations and dont act like you know whats about to be released when its actually just a try to get a lucky shot.
But like you say, you dont owe me anything, and I dont need to take your word for it. The internet is big enough for both of us Happy wargaming!
I don't care if you believe me or not. I tend not look at what other rumours say. I just occasionally say what I've heard. Never once said it was a fact. If you see it as fact that's not my issue. That's you looking for it. I haven't contradicted anyone else. I rarely pass rumours on here so not particularly interested in more whining. I'll just not pass anymore info on. Doesn't bother me. That's me done with you
2015/08/16 18:21:37
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumors: Quest for Ghal Maraz pics pg60
So you post that Lord of Change is ready but in fact don't have any idea or even solid suspicion. That's trash posting, welcome to the club.
From the initial Age of Sigmar news thread, when its "feature" list was first confirmed:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
It's like a train wreck. But one made from two circus trains colliding.
A collosal, terrible, flaming, hysterical train wreck with burning clowns running around spraying it with seltzer bottles while ring masters cry out how everything is fine and we should all come in while the dancing elephants lurch around leaving trails of blood behind them.
How could I look away?
2015/08/16 18:28:43
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors: Quest for Ghal Maraz pics pg60
TheWaspinator wrote: In any event with the sudden death rules intact, I kind of want to show up with a single Carrion just to troll people.
And if anyone sees you with a Carrion, they could just opt for a different Sudden Death rule--unless you're going to be a douche and not show them the rules for the Carrion when asked to see them.
The player with the least amount of models gets to pick what Sudden Death rule gets used.
What's more? Sudden Death rules only make it so that a Major Victory can be accomplished immediately instead of the Battleplan objectives--and many of the Battleplans actually remove Sudden Death rules from play.
2015/08/16 18:39:52
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors: Quest for Ghal Maraz pics pg60
Does anyone know of someone who actually has a 10 Bloodthirsters or 20 Glotkin. These examples come up regularly and whilst it's possible, it seems highly improbable.
Battles and war in real life are very rarely even or have balanced forces. While no one wants to get pummeled regularly, sometimes it's just fun to play the game
2015/08/16 21:10:49
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors: Quest for Ghal Maraz pics pg60
fleegle23 wrote: Does anyone know of someone who actually has a 10 Bloodthirsters or 20 Glotkin. These examples come up regularly and whilst it's possible, it seems highly improbable.
Battles and war in real life are very rarely even or have balanced forces. While no one wants to get pummeled regularly, sometimes it's just fun to play the game
I don't have 20 glotkin, but i do have 11 bloodthirsters.
2015/08/16 22:55:40
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors: Quest for Ghal Maraz pics pg60
Is the Bell+Birdy thing still a...thing? Because that would be hilarious. Wait until everyone deployed their models, deploy yours, game starts, you win. Boom, drop the mic, back of backwards flailing your arms.
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Back to N&R: I don't know if this has been posted, haven't seen it in the last 4 pages. It's not really THAT new, but.. pictures of the AoS Chaos Fortress leaked by Atia:
fleegle23 wrote: Battles and war in real life are very rarely even or have balanced forces. While no one wants to get pummeled regularly, sometimes it's just fun to play the game
Yes, game. Not real life. Games need to have some semblance of balance or fairness or they start getting old really quick.
War in real life isn't balanced, no, so you're right. It's also not fun, either.
Chaos terrain looks way OTT, but I guess it's kinda supposed to. Wondering how much it costs, haven't been too impressed with any of the other AoS pieces so far and the prices have all been outrageous for what they are.
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Desubot wrote: Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
"It's easier to change the rules than to get good at the game."
2015/08/17 02:42:14
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors: Quest for Ghal Maraz pics pg60
fleegle23 wrote: Does anyone know of someone who actually has a 10 Bloodthirsters or 20 Glotkin. These examples come up regularly and whilst it's possible, it seems highly improbable.
Battles and war in real life are very rarely even or have balanced forces. While no one wants to get pummeled regularly, sometimes it's just fun to play the game
I don't have 20 glotkin, but i do have 11 bloodthirsters.
I am not sure where people get this idea since most thigns I seen so far hosted where :
2 unit with the hero
No unit may contain more then 20 wounds
the player can not have more then 50 wounds total.
So 2 glotkin then the rest are void they even showed an example of a set up. And most of this aos stuff is predeployed battles ect so no reason to think in the future they will not stuck to their earlier plan.
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2015/08/17 04:23:24
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors: Quest for Ghal Maraz pics pg60
fleegle23 wrote: Does anyone know of someone who actually has a 10 Bloodthirsters or 20 Glotkin. These examples come up regularly and whilst it's possible, it seems highly improbable.
Battles and war in real life are very rarely even or have balanced forces. While no one wants to get pummeled regularly, sometimes it's just fun to play the game
I don't have 20 glotkin, but i do have 11 bloodthirsters.
And no one who would probably play against that army.
2015/08/17 04:35:32
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors: Quest for Ghal Maraz pics pg60
Sidstyler wrote: Chaos terrain looks way OTT, but I guess it's kinda supposed to. Wondering how much it costs, haven't been too impressed with any of the other AoS pieces so far and the prices have all been outrageous for what they are.
EverythingGW makes is OTT... That's part of their aesthetic.
We'll see in a day or two about the price, but I would suspect in the US$100 range for the tower (it looks pretty big).
I actually think the terrain is some of the nicest stuff that's come out Age of Sigmar so far. Everything's relative, I guess, but terrain is generally pretty pricey. Foam hills and dinky trees at the hobby shop are expensive >.<
2015/08/17 05:03:25
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors: Quest for Ghal Maraz pics pg60
fleegle23 wrote: Does anyone know of someone who actually has a 10 Bloodthirsters or 20 Glotkin. These examples come up regularly and whilst it's possible, it seems highly improbable.
Battles and war in real life are very rarely even or have balanced forces. While no one wants to get pummeled regularly, sometimes it's just fun to play the game
I don't have 20 glotkin, but i do have 11 bloodthirsters.
And no one who would probably play against that army.
What I think people are forgetting about this ruleset is the relative unit parity which exists in the game now.
I still think the idea of 20 Glottkin or 11 Bloodthirsters are silly, but keep in mind now that many things just wound on a 4-5 now. Sure, armor saves are still very much in play, but models can do much more damage to monsters than they used to now that damage is static. Considering also that monsters lose effectiveness as wounds are lost and that without a points value you can take more infantry if you wish, I feel that the idea of 11 Bloodthirsters means less than it used to, using the old power metrics.
Then again, I don't play AoS and don't intend to, so maybe I'm wrong.
As for the new model, it certainly seems that GW has gone OTT on the muscles, which is a trend which has continued with Chaos for a while. I'll pass on this model, but I'm a bit excited for where it could go.
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