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I agree with the automatic thing as well. It seems incredibly unlikely that a fully-automatic weapon was used, but the media and average civilian doesn't know the difference between the two, and the media plays up the capabilities of semi-automatic weapons to make them sound nearly indistinguishable from fully automatic weapons.


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 BrotherGecko wrote:
I'm going to go ahead an say that uniform service members off post on official military business should be required to have a side arm for personal defense.

In most cases, they are actually prohibited from carrying a weapon.

How is this terrorism and shooting up a black church isnt?

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I'm going to go ahead an say that uniform service members off post on official military business should be required to have a side arm for personal defense.

Negative
That damn near saying ISIS and Friends are conducting war on our soil

 d-usa wrote:
How is this terrorism and shooting up a black church isnt?

It depends, terrorism is a specific action carried out for specific reaons. Mass shootings out of racism isn't one of them.

That being said if this guy wasn't actually affiliated with a terrorist group then it really wasn't terrorism either.

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
How is this terrorism and shooting up a black church isnt?

It depends, terrorism is a specific action carried out for specific reaons. Mass shootings out of racism isn't one of them.

That being said if this guy wasn't actually affiliated with a terrorist group then it really wasn't terrorism either.

That white boy in SC wanted to start a race war, he even wrote a damn book about it. That was terrorism, plain and simple... but we will not call white folks terrorists.

 Jihadin wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I'm going to go ahead an say that uniform service members off post on official military business should be required to have a side arm for personal defense.

Negative
That damn near saying ISIS and Friends are conducting war on our soil

I appreciate the Constitutional conundrum with the idea. However, if civilains can carry then so should service members. Difference is military are political targets of murder where as civilians on the general are not.

 d-usa wrote:
How is this terrorism and shooting up a black church isnt?

Who ever said shooting up a black church wasn't terrorism?

 Psienesis wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
How is this terrorism and shooting up a black church isnt?

It depends, terrorism is a specific action carried out for specific reaons. Mass shootings out of racism isn't one of them.

That being said if this guy wasn't actually affiliated with a terrorist group then it really wasn't terrorism either.

That white boy in SC wanted to start a race war, he even wrote a damn book about it. That was terrorism, plain and simple... but we will not call white folks terrorists.

He wasn't a non-state/interstate organization attacking civilians of a state in order to inact a political agenda. He was an individual acting on his own racist delusions.

Terrorism isn't an act of terror. Otherwise anyone commiting violence would be a terrorist.

I know it would be a feel good story in American politics to call what he did terrorism but it wasn't and shouldn't be called terrorism.

 Psienesis wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
How is this terrorism and shooting up a black church isnt?

It depends, terrorism is a specific action carried out for specific reaons. Mass shootings out of racism isn't one of them.

That being said if this guy wasn't actually affiliated with a terrorist group then it really wasn't terrorism either.

That white boy in SC wanted to start a race war, he even wrote a damn book about it. That was terrorism, plain and simple... but we will not call white folks terrorists.

Ireland would like a word.

 d-usa wrote:
How is this terrorism and shooting up a black church isnt?

Who said it wasn't?

I'd definitely call that domestic terrorism.

 Psienesis wrote:
but we will not call white folks terrorists.

You're right. With the exception of the Unabomber, Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, Eric Rudolph, the Tsarnaev brothers, groups like the Real IRA, Basque paramilitary groups like the ETA, extreme right-wing groups like Combat 18, Posse Comitatus, and The Order among others, we will not call white folks terrorists.

 Soladrin wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
How is this terrorism and shooting up a black church isnt?

It depends, terrorism is a specific action carried out for specific reaons. Mass shootings out of racism isn't one of them.

That being said if this guy wasn't actually affiliated with a terrorist group then it really wasn't terrorism either.

That white boy in SC wanted to start a race war, he even wrote a damn book about it. That was terrorism, plain and simple... but we will not call white folks terrorists.

Ireland would like a word.

Hell, the son of a white Boston cop just got busted for terrorism.

Daddy:


Kid:


Daddy turned in his son.

His son looks like he was dropped as a child. A lot.

 Psienesis wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
How is this terrorism and shooting up a black church isnt?

It depends, terrorism is a specific action carried out for specific reaons. Mass shootings out of racism isn't one of them.

That being said if this guy wasn't actually affiliated with a terrorist group then it really wasn't terrorism either.

That white boy in SC wanted to start a race war, he even wrote a damn book about it. That was terrorism, plain and simple... but we will not call white folks terrorists.

Well that's just ignorant.

http://m.fox19.com/fox19/db_347713/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=bcX9zXcj

Shooter's name was Mohammed...never saw that coming...

The statement "We will not call white folks terrorists" has about as much validity as the statement "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."

That is to say, absolutely none.

Why are we injecting a race issue in this?

 Jihadin wrote:
Why are we injecting a race issue in this?

Because some folks feel the need to show how we are all racist scum, even if we are not.

 Jihadin wrote:
Why are we injecting a race issue in this?

I'm rejecting it.

 Jihadin wrote:
Why are we injecting a race issue in this?

Because Muslims are a race don'tcha know

Two very different dynamics


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 Grey Templar wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Why are we injecting a race issue in this?

Because Muslims are a race don'tcha know

Edit

Stop broad brushing

Even though he was born in Kuwait in 1990

Anyone else catching the Twitter tweets before and after the shooting. As in "possible" sleeper
Thinking it was a Lone Wolf

 Jihadin wrote:
Two very different dynamics


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 Grey Templar wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Why are we injecting a race issue in this?

Because Muslims are a race don'tcha know

Edit

Stop broad brushing

Even though he was born in Kuwait in 1990

Anyone else catching the Twitter tweets before and after the shooting. As in "possible" sleeper
Thinking it was a Lone Wolf

Who's broad brushing? I'm pretty sure Grey Templar is being sarcastic and is well aware that "Muslim" isn't a race. End of story. Him being born in Kuwait doesn't make Muslim a race either.

 Hordini wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Two very different dynamics


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 Grey Templar wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Why are we injecting a race issue in this?

Because Muslims are a race don'tcha know

Edit

Stop broad brushing

Even though he was born in Kuwait in 1990

Anyone else catching the Twitter tweets before and after the shooting. As in "possible" sleeper
Thinking it was a Lone Wolf

Who's broad brushing? I'm pretty sure Grey Templar is being sarcastic and is well aware that "Muslim" isn't a race. End of story. Him being born in Kuwait doesn't make Muslim a race either.

Think we need a sarcastic ork face

My condolences to the families.

It's a shame that we have some among the community who are in an unseemly haste to make hay over these terrible attacks.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
My condolences to the families.

It's a shame that we have some among the community who are in an unseemly haste to make hay over these terrible attacks.

It happens every time, unfortunately.

Politics is a dirty world, and everybody wants to stamp their claim first So they can claim the other side doesn't care as much as they do.

I'm glad they capped him. Not doing so to Hassan was a mistake.

 CptJake wrote:
I'm glad they capped him. Not doing so to Hassan was a mistake.

Yep, saves a lot of time and money and leaves one less donkey cave in the world.

I was being sarcastic. I hoped the orkmoticon would have communicated that.

 Grey Templar wrote:
I was being sarcastic. I hoped the orkmoticon would have communicated that.

I thought your message was pretty clear.