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Magnus, The Crimson Lord, Primarch Of The Thousand Sons Legion WS7, BS7, S6, T6, W6, I5, A4, L10, Sv: 2+, Type: Infantry (Character)
Wargear The Armour Æthereal
Heqa Staff
The Book Of Magnus
Frag Grenades
Krak Grenades
Special Rules Primarch
Sire Of The Thousand Sons
Psyker (Mastery Level 4)
Master Psyker
Very Bulky
(Magnus May Select Powers From Any Rulebook Psychic Discipline)
Spoiler:
The Armour Æthereal 2+ Armour Save, 4++ Invulnerable Save, Gives A 3+ Save Against All Negative Effects From Perils Of The Warp
Heqa Staff -", S+2, AP2, Master-Crafted, Increases The Range Of Any Power Casted By Magnus By 6"
The Book Of Magnus D6 Friendly Psychic Units Know An Additional Power If They Have Psychic Focus
Sire Of The Thousand Sons All Thousand Sons Have +1 Leadership & Inflict -1 To Enemy Deny The Witch Rolls. Magnus May Re-Roll Psychic Tests
Master Psyker Magnus May Choose His Powers Instead Of Randomly Rolling, He Only Suffers Perils On Double 6s When Using Daemonology and may activate his psychic powers on a 3+
(500pts)
Lion El'Jonson, The Lion, Primarch Of The Dark Angels Legion WS8, BS6, S6, T6, I7, W6, A5, L10, Sv: 2+, Type: Infantry (Character)
Wargear The Aegis Of Caliban
The Lion Sword
Roar
Frag Grenades
Krak Grenades
Special Rules Primarch
Sire Of The Dark Angels
The Dark Secret
The Hidden Claw
Bulky
Spoiler:
The Aegis Of Caliban 2+ Armour Save, 4++ Invulnerable Save, Successful To Wound Rolls Must Be Re-Rolled
Sire Of The Dark Angels Jonson gives all Dark Angels Infiltrate. Jonson has Monster Hunter & may re-roll to hit in a challenge
The Dark Secret Friendly Dark Angel units within 12" of Jonson are Fearless & have Hatred (Chaos). Jonson allows Ravenwing bikers & Deathwing veterans to be taken as troops.
The Hidden Claw After deployment, Jonson may re-deploy D3 units or place them into reserves
(450pts)
Leman Russ, The Wolf, Primarch Of The Space Wolves Legion WS8, BS5, S7, T6, I6, W6, A6, L10, Sv: 2+, Type: Infantry (Character)
Mjolnir -", S10, AP1, Master-Crafted, Concussive, Unwieldy, Type: Melee
24", S10, AP1, Master-Crafted, Concussive, One Use, Type: Heavy 1
Sire Of The Space Wolves Russ allows all Space Wolves to Outflank. Russ has Counter-Attack
Blessings Of The Wolf Russ denies the witch in a 4+ by default. Furthermore, while in combat with a Psyker, they may only activate warp charges on a 6+ unless they are ML3 or higher. ML3 and higher activate warp charges on a 5+.
The Son Of Fenris All heat-based weapons and Pyromancy powers half their strength when targeting Russ
(455pts)
Sanguinius, The Angel, Primarch Of The Blood Angels WS8, BS5, S6, T6, I9, W6, A6, L10, Sv: 2+, Type: Jump Infantry (Character)
Wargear The Angel's Mantle
Blade Encarmine
Spear Of Telesto
Frag Grenades
Krak Grenades
Special Rules Primarch
Sire Of The Blood Angels
Heaven's Blade
The Angel
The Far Seeing Eye
Very Bulky
Spoiler:
The Angel's Mantle 2+ Armour Save, 3++ Invulnerable Save, Immune To Concussive, Strikedown & Rad Weaponry
Blade Encarmine -", S+1, AP2, Blood Drain, Shred, Master-Crafted, Type: Melee
(Blood Drain: Models who suffer a wound must take a toughness test. If failed, they are removed as a casualty. If passed, they suffer -1T for the remainder of the game)
Sire Of The Blood Angels Sanguinius has "Furious Charge" and allows Blood Angels to re-roll reserves and scatter when entering from reserves via deep strike.
Heaven's Blade In a challenge, Sanguinius may either choose to re-roll his to hit & to wound rolls or his saving throws. Futhermore, if his opponent's WS is equal to or higher than his, he gains +D3 attacks for the remainder of the challenge.
The Angel Sanguinius counts as Jump Infantry in both the movement and assault phases and all units within 12" have the "Fearless" special rule. Should he every be removed as a casualty, the enemy gains +D3 victory points and all Blood Angels must take a leadership check with a -2 modifier. If passed, they suffer -2 leadership for the remainder of the game. If failed, they gain the "Rage" special rule for the remainder of the game.
The Far Seeing Eye Sanguinius seizes the initiative on a 4+. Furthermore, he may re-roll 1D6 of any kind each turn and 1D6 pre-game (This includes warlord traits, psychic powers, turn order, seize the initiative etc.)
(500pts)
Jaghatai Khan, The Warhawk, Primarch Of The White Scars Legion On Foot: WS8, BS6, S6, T6, I7, W6, A6, L10, Sv: 2+, Type: Infantry (Charater)
On Tsagaan: WS8, BS6, S7, T7, I7, W6, A6, L10, Sv: 2+, Type: Jetbike (Character)
Sire Of The White Scars Khan allows all White Scars to auto-pass their initiative tests when attempting to Hit & Run. Enemies may not fire overwatch against Khan and his unit
Wrath Of The Storm Khan allows all White Scars bikes & jetbikes to assault after Turbo-Boosting
Lightning Strike Khan gains +1 Initiative in the turn he charges and is immune to the effects of defensive and rad grenades
May Take
Spoiler:
-Tsagaan: 45pts
(Changes unit type to Jetbike (Character, +1S, Comes equipped with TL Volkite Culverin)
(395pts)
This message was edited 10 times. Last update was at 2015/07/25 02:57:46
2015/07/18 20:41:42
Subject: Re:My Rules For The Remaining Primarchs (Magnus, Jonson & Russ) (Sanguinius & Khan Coming Soon)
The Lion's rules are a little much. Everyone infiltrating? how would anyone counter that? Magnus is cool though. Good job!
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I went to Hershey Park in central PA this year, and I have to say I was more than a little disappointed. I fully expected the entire theme park to be make entirely of chocolate, but no. Here in America, we have "building codes," and some other nonsense about chocolate melting if don't store it someplace kept below room temperature.
2015/07/18 20:45:01
Subject: Re:My Rules For The Remaining Primarchs (Magnus, Jonson & Russ) (Sanguinius & Khan Coming Soon)
Powerfisting wrote: The Lion's rules are a little much. Everyone infiltrating? how would anyone counter that? Magnus is cool though. Good job!
In Horus Heresy games, infiltration has a lot more counters - for example, one of the troop choices for the Taghmata Omnissiah, a commonly played force, disallows infiltrators setting up within 24". The Lion is properly costed. He's expensive but allows a ton of repositioning which is extremely cool.
Good work OP, Magnus is brutally powerful as it makes sense. However, the cost won't be enough to defeat the fact that he can be an Invisible Daemon Factory and beat every single other Primarch in combat with ease.
For Russ, make it so that if the Psyker is ML3 or higher then they only manifest warp charges on a 5+. Might give him a chance against Magnus!
2015/07/19 02:46:54
Subject: Re:My Rules For The Remaining Primarchs (Magnus, Jonson & Russ) (Sanguinius & Khan Coming Soon)
Powerfisting wrote: The Lion's rules are a little much. Everyone infiltrating? how would anyone counter that? Magnus is cool though. Good job!
I wasn't sure about infiltrating when I put it in, but not because I think it's OP. In fact, it's a much less deadly tactic in 30k than it is in 40k. As previously mentioned, there are a lot of units that straight up deny infiltration within up to 24" of them. Furthermore, there are more armies that can entirely infiltrate and pull it off bette than this. For example, the Alpha Legion have the option to infiltrate EVERYTHING and on top of that, steal other armies' units and mess with your reserves. If they bring Alpharius and use their rite of war, then imagine this scenario: Any entirely infiltrating army (including Spartan Assault tanks with ceramite armour), unique units that have been straight up stolen from other legions (Iron Warriors tyrant terminators with cyclone missile launchers & TL Bolters that they can fire together, which are also infiltrating), Preferred Enemy (Everything), a land raider proteus and a special rule which gives -1 to your reserves (so, you can only bring in reserves on a 5+) and finally, if you manage to bring something in, on a 4+, it becomes an enemy unit which comes on from reserves.
Really, the reason I was a bit iffy about infiltrate was because with the 30k Dark Angels rules, I'm trying to make them more like the Knights of medieval Europe than the Catholic Church. So, the rules I'm making for them base them more on honour and chivalry, so they have excellent morale benefits and gain benefits in challenges (though they have to issue and accept them). So, I'm not quite sure if infiltrate will suit them, so I'll see if I can re-do it.
Thanks for the praise for Magnus, though!
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2015/07/19 02:53:41
Subject: Re:My Rules For The Remaining Primarchs (Magnus, Jonson & Russ) (Sanguinius & Khan Coming Soon)
Powerfisting wrote: The Lion's rules are a little much. Everyone infiltrating? how would anyone counter that? Magnus is cool though. Good job!
I wasn't sure about infiltrating when I put it in, but not because I think it's OP. In fact, it's a much less deadly tactic in 30k than it is in 40k. As previously mentioned, there are a lot of units that straight up deny infiltration within up to 24" of them. Furthermore, there are more armies that can entirely infiltrate and pull it off bette than this. For example, the Alpha Legion have the option to infiltrate EVERYTHING and on top of that, steal other armies' units and mess with your reserves. If they bring Alpharius and use their rite of war, then imagine this scenario: Any entirely infiltrating army (including Spartan Assault tanks with ceramite armour), unique units that have been straight up stolen from other legions (Iron Warriors tyrant terminators with cyclone missile launchers & TL Bolters that they can fire together, which are also infiltrating), Preferred Enemy (Everything), a land raider proteus and a special rule which gives -1 to your reserves (so, you can only bring in reserves on a 5+) and finally, if you manage to bring something in, on a 4+, it becomes an enemy unit which comes on from reserves.
Really, the reason I was a bit iffy about infiltrate was because with the 30k Dark Angels rules, I'm trying to make them more like the Knights of medieval Europe than the Catholic Church. So, the rules I'm making for them base them more on honour and chivalry, so they have excellent morale benefits and gain benefits in challenges (though they have to issue and accept them). So, I'm not quite sure if infiltrate will suit them, so I'll see if I can re-do it.
Well, primarch rules don't have to be Legion tactics +1. I hadn't realized all the hard counters to infiltrate. The lion (at least in the books) was a tactical genius to rival Horus, so I can totally see that being his thing and the way its worded, he's still separate from Alpharius as far as flavor goes. I like it.
I went to Hershey Park in central PA this year, and I have to say I was more than a little disappointed. I fully expected the entire theme park to be make entirely of chocolate, but no. Here in America, we have "building codes," and some other nonsense about chocolate melting if don't store it someplace kept below room temperature.
Captyn_Bob wrote: Magnus seems cool, (prolly needs to be more expensive than other primachs)
Mastery 4? you mean 5 surely
Knew that eventually someone would say that (or did you just read what I said before I got rid of it and waited for someone to say it?)! Anyhow, I was planing on making DP Magnus ML5 and should the Emperor ever become a thing, he would be ML6
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From Scars, I get that they're evenly matched with Khan being faster and Mortarion being tougher. It's similar to how I came with Russ & Jonson. They are both described as being equal in skill, with Jonson being faster & Russ being stronger.
From what I can tell, Sangunius can one shot other primarchs, cause a wound, they fail a test and then they are removed. That is a little silly dont you think? If he did that in lore, he would have killed horus easy.
Bear in mind, he had defeated a Bloodthirster and almost single handedly held the Imperial Palace against a horde of daemons for several days before fighting Horus.
There are plenty of weapons that do that (IE, Space Wolves Hellfrost weaponry). Even Russ has a Hellfrost weapon. Even so, Primarchs only have a 1/6 chance of failing and Mortarion can re-roll his failed Toughness tests (he is also T7).
Knew that eventually someone would say that (or did you just read what I said before I got rid of it and waited for someone to say it?)! Anyhow, I was planing on making 