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calltoarms wrote:
Coldsteel, was your list the beautiful "necron" themed eldar/knight army?

That sounds cool, any pics from the event?

Conversions are pretty good but the paint's really rough. Surprised that the awesome rebel grot army didn't get best army:

It did get best painted. My teammate David "Tarzan" Jensen painted it. Coincedently, also on the same team as the Knight/Eldar 'Crons!

calltoarms wrote:
Coldsteel, was your list the beautiful "necron" themed eldar/knight army?

Yep, that was me. Had a great time converting them up, but of course can't hold a candle to Tarzan's painting!

I'm glad to see the discussion is back on track how awesome was ATC this year.

: )

 gardeth wrote:

 Anglacon wrote:
Is best Dark Eldar an accomplishment if there are only 4 players?

Still... 29th out of 240, i will take it!

Lance?

Yup

Had a blast! Looking forward to next year already!

 Anglacon wrote:

 gardeth wrote:

 Anglacon wrote:
Is best Dark Eldar an accomplishment if there are only 4 players?

Still... 29th out of 240, i will take it!

Lance?

Yup

Had a blast! Looking forward to next year already!

My daemons are still reeling from our game, though I am already looking at taking my own DE out of mothballs

Lol glad to hear it. I had a lot of fun that game!

 gardeth wrote:
It did get best painted. My teammate David "Tarzan" Jensen painted it. Coincedently, also on the same team as the Knight/Eldar 'Crons!

Oh, someone told me that the Knight/Eldar won for some reason.

I had a great time, and we were really happy with 4th place. All of our 6 games were against teams that included great players, so no easy matches for us lol.

Hopefully they'll be some tweaks to army comp and format ahead of next year. Looking forward to the feedback survey.

My feedback: get rid of that god awful battlescribe requirement!

 Anglacon wrote:
My feedback: get rid of that god awful battlescribe requirement!

Why? I LIKE being able to read and understand all my opponents lists.

My only negative feedback would be to not have the mousy voiced lady make the anouncements.....

My only negative feedback would be to not have the mousy voiced lady make the anouncements.....

I 100% agree, especially after playing directly in front of one of those speakers when she talked for about a full minute of yelling/screeching/squealing

 Master Shake wrote:
I had a great weekend running the marines on Death Spiral Down (Fennell ' s team as you all say) this past weekend! Hopefully we'll be back with the same team next year!

Congrats to everybody who played!

IF YOU GUYS VOTE ME THE CAPTIAN WHEN IM NOT THERE , IT BECOMES PARKERS TEAM!!!!

 Dude_I_Suck wrote:

BigDogg82 wrote:
Was a great weekend. Our team captain Chris Anderson took best general with only 3 WK lol. But of my 6 opponents only had an issue with one and it was not major. Staff did a great job.

I know he did! If only my GK player had ended the game on turn 6, then my SM player would have had top!

And Fishboy, yes, there were two Harlequins players, that for some reason got lumped into the Eldar category, even though we had pure harlequin army lists(well, mine was, the other had a Callidus assassin).

I tried helping by letting your marine player table me. I like to tell myself I helped them both get to 1st and 2nd.

 gardeth wrote:

 Anglacon wrote:
My feedback: get rid of that god awful battlescribe requirement!

Why? I LIKE being able to read and understand all my opponents lists.

Battlescribe has quite a few problems, the biggest of which is that there isn't a real "primary" data file repository (like there is with ab40k Maintainers for Army Builder). It seemed that this was mostly a problem for newer Codexes--as a Codex ages, it seems the "best" file eventually gets decided on, and everybody adds it to their repository. But when going through the lists, I found they'd been made with probably 4 or 5 different versions of the Dark Angels Codex file, and at least two versions of the Space Marine Codex file. Weirdly, there were also at least two versions of the Space Wolf file floating around.

There's also no enforced uniformity between the outputs. The lists can actually be very confusing to read. The following are all different variations of ways I saw a unit of Canoptek Wraiths (3 with Whip Coils) be listed:

6 Canoptek Wraiths
3x Canoptek Wraith, 3x Canoptek Wraith with Whip Coils

Canoptek Wraiths
3x Canoptek Wraiths

Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils
3x Canoptek Wraiths

Canoptek Wraiths
Canoptek Wraith, Canoptek Wraith, Canoptek Wraith, Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils, Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils, Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils

There were honestly probably more, and keep in mind that a unit of Wraiths is a pretty simple unit in regards to wargear. It's frequently far more confusing when you're instead talking about units with differently-named Sergeants. Okay, this unit says 3x Centurion Devastators, then has a sub-entry for Centurion Devastator Sergeant. Is that a unit of 3 Cents? Or a unit of 4 Cents? The answer is: it could be either, because it's kinda random as to whether or not the person who wrote the data file counted the Sergeant into the original unit count, or kept it separate. I ended up basically just looking at the title line and the full points cost and using that to extrapolate how many models were in the unit.

Battlescribe also doesn't have a PDF output by default, which means the organizers were forced to have people submit raw Battlescribe files, which are cumbersome at best. I spent hours manually converting all of the files to PDF so my team would have easier access to the lists. At least a quarter of the lists (mostly DA/SW/SM, as noted above) did not match my data repository files, and were left with points or wargear options missing.

They should require a repo (battlescribedata.appspot.com is the only one that matters anyway) and should require a cliff notes version of the list as well.

DJ3 wrote:

 gardeth wrote:

 Anglacon wrote:
My feedback: get rid of that god awful battlescribe requirement!

Why? I LIKE being able to read and understand all my opponents lists.

Battlescribe has quite a few problems, the biggest of which is that there isn't a real "primary" data file repository (like there is with ab40k Maintainers for Army Builder). It seemed that this was mostly a problem for newer Codexes--as a Codex ages, it seems the "best" file eventually gets decided on, and everybody adds it to their repository. But when going through the lists, I found they'd been made with probably 4 or 5 different versions of the Dark Angels Codex file, and at least two versions of the Space Marine Codex file. Weirdly, there were also at least two versions of the Space Wolf file floating around.

There's also no enforced uniformity between the outputs. The lists can actually be very confusing to read. The following are all different variations of ways I saw a unit of Canoptek Wraiths (3 with Whip Coils) be listed:

6 Canoptek Wraiths
3x Canoptek Wraith, 3x Canoptek Wraith with Whip Coils

Canoptek Wraiths
3x Canoptek Wraiths

Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils
3x Canoptek Wraiths

Canoptek Wraiths
Canoptek Wraith, Canoptek Wraith, Canoptek Wraith, Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils, Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils, Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils

There were honestly probably more, and keep in mind that a unit of Wraiths is a pretty simple unit in regards to wargear. It's frequently far more confusing when you're instead talking about units with differently-named Sergeants. Okay, this unit says 3x Centurion Devastators, then has a sub-entry for Centurion Devastator Sergeant. Is that a unit of 3 Cents? Or a unit of 4 Cents? The answer is: it could be either, because it's kinda random as to whether or not the person who wrote the data file counted the Sergeant into the original unit count, or kept it separate. I ended up basically just looking at the title line and the full points cost and using that to extrapolate how many models were in the unit.

Battlescribe also doesn't have a PDF output by default, which means the organizers were forced to have people submit raw Battlescribe files, which are cumbersome at best. I spent hours manually converting all of the files to PDF so my team would have easier access to the lists. At least a quarter of the lists (mostly DA/SW/SM, as noted above) did not match my data repository files, and were left with points or wargear options missing.

Yeah I liked the idea of all the lists in one format and being sent in early. Very much what I was used to in many tournaments in Europe. But not being used to BS I found myself having a hard time figuring out what was in a list. I had one Guard list that was essentially a small book to read. I thought I saw what I needed to be on the look out for in the list. But somehow missed the 2nd Executioner...... I thought this was just my problem but than I heard many others were having the same issue.

fair enough

I'd probably delete that, there's not much to be gained restarting a dead argument online.

I live in Tennessee, I game with folks who send a team every year. Last two years the military has seen fit to ensure I was somewhere else in July.

Not next year though.