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I think Tau will win 1st place.

 FTGTEvan wrote:
My predictions: http://ftgtgaming.blogspot.com/2016/02/lvo-predictions.html

Expecting mostly Space Marines and Eldar in the top 8, personally.

I agree almost dead on with your predictions. I'll be (very) happily surprised if there's a Tau player in the top 8, though.

None the less, I'll be glued to the stream from the moment it starts

I'm sure there will be at least two Tau in top 8.

I still think Daemons are relatively strong enough to be in top 8, especially since there are at least 2 really strong Daemon players that still use them (Nick and Alan).

 Dozer Blades wrote:
I think Tau will win 1st place.

 Dozer Blades wrote:
I'm sure there will be at least two Tau in top 8.

Wait... does anyone know what Dozer thinks Tau will do

I'd like to see some skin in the game here! What happens if you are wrong? Perhaps an updated signature of some sort

Looking forward to the live coverage! Link for those who missed it from last page:
https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2016/01/27/lvo-2016-broadcasting-schedule/

Requizen wrote:
I still think Daemons are relatively strong enough to be in top 8, especially since there are at least 2 really strong Daemon players that still use them (Nick and Alan).

Yeah, honestly they're my #3 army in ITC. And no telling what Alan will use - he's brought a slightly different army to nearly every event (though usually with a heavy daemon presence).

Tau I don't think make the top 8 because of their relative lack of mobility is a hindrance in Maelstrom, and combined with the FAQ nerfs, I just don't think they have quite enough. They still could - Gonyo is taking them - but they're an outside shot in my opinion, same with Necrons.

For all the bitching and moaning the new Tau are still way strong as you'll come to find out. Tau can literally table armies in three turns.

Budzerker wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:
I just went to the ITC standings ( https://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/frontline-gamings-independent-tournament-circuit/itc-2015-rankings/ ) and did a search by name.

Good luck at the LVO, best of luck.

I love the ITC so don't get me wrong. But it's not really an accurate representation of the best players in the country. There are a lot of good players in there but its missing a lot of the best.

That's simply because ITC is much more widely used on the West coast than elsewhere in the country. Rankings HQ had closer to the top players back when it was used. But still had plenty of problems.

Well yea, I mean that list is simply the list of people who had events to go to and did well at those events. That's also why I left the name off of the placing and just posted the armies those players ran, it was just to show that almost all of the armies in the game are doing ok in the events available and in a large event a little luck can go a long way.

I was the last carry-on allowed on my flight. Pleaded the flight attendants to allow it after they were going to gate check it. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

Gl everyone. See y'all tomorrow.

Round 1 done.

Any notable early defeats?

yes the 2nd one in ITC ranking Geoff Robinson, lost 6-2

You can't win the tournament the first day, but you can certainly lose it.

blackmage wrote:
yes the 2nd one in ITC ranking Geoff Robinson, lost 6-2

What did he lose to?

Requizen wrote:

blackmage wrote:
yes the 2nd one in ITC ranking Geoff Robinson, lost 6-2

What did he lose to?

Another War Convocation

and also Nick Nanavati lost to Tau

blackmage wrote:
and also Nick Nanavati lost to Tau

Technically? That was pretty terrible, they only played 2 turns, and Nick's turns, including being intercepted were probably 35-40 minutes total.

 FTGTEvan wrote:

blackmage wrote:
and also Nick Nanavati lost to Tau

Technically? That was pretty terrible, they only played 2 turns, and Nick's turns, including being intercepted were probably 35-40 minutes total.

Out of a game that lasted an hour and eight minutes that seems fair. I watched it and they had ~30 more minutes and extra time for the late start but Nick conceded, it's kind of bogus to sell Israel short on his win. Nick fell behind on maelstrom and his assaults to grab the relic and pin his other riptide BOTH failed resulting in bad instability rolls. He also failed grimoir on his knight and was about to eat a crap ton of seeker missiles on a 3hp knight. Honestly even had they continued he wasn't winning that game unless something crazy happened which is probably why he conceded.

It sucks that the game started late and they ended it early due to a player calling it, but you can hardly blame it on time or slow play when the loser concedes even before time is up.

I agree. I was watching the game, and even though Nick has a right to be unhappy about the time, he wasn't winning that game unless Isreal's dice totally betrayed him.

Was Israel late? Why did they get a late start?

I started watching late, but from the sound of it, it was just an extra long deployment/set up followed by slow play.

It's honestly a shame as I was really excited about that match up after seeing the lists.

As for the stream as a whole now, I'd say the main thing they could fix is to have more pre-recorded content in down time. It's just a matter of playing audio in the background, such as the ITC player interviews they had at the end of Signals. Those make the event easier to relate to, and they are already formatted for that kind of thing.

I missed the 40K games today and the Twitch has moved on to Warmachine at the moment - will be trying to catch at least one of the games tomorrow

The real question is, which of you will be watching the final round instead of the Super Bowl on Sunday

Nerd Hammer > Sports Ball

bogalubov wrote:
Was Israel late? Why did they get a late start?

45 minute interview segment on the stream with Nick.

Then it's even more ridiculous to blame Israel when Nick is holding the game up in an interview.

 Red Corsair wrote:
Then it's even more ridiculous to blame Israel when Nick is holding the game up in an interview.

It seemed to me that Israel had the game in Hand. It was a rough mission and matchup for Nick. When Tau start beating Demons in CC, it isn't going well for the Demons.

I have a feeling if the game had gone on, then Nick would have contested the Relic, but I doubt he had a route to victory once his Knight went down, and he failed to tarpit the Riptides.

I may have misread it. Nick still had lots of summoning ability, but Tau had utterly dominant board position, and lots and lots of firepower.

Tomorrow I play against the LVO winner from 2 years ago, Alex Fennell. Woohoo! It's gonna be a good fight.

 jy2 wrote:
Tomorrow I play against the LVO winner from 2 years ago, Alex Fennell. Woohoo! It's gonna be a good fight.

I hope you crush him, for no other reason that I recognize your avatar from a thread talking about being new to the ITC recently... I'm a petty and fickle Tinkrr that favours new comers D:

What are you running bee-tee-dubs?

 Red Corsair wrote:
Then it's even more ridiculous to blame Israel when Nick is holding the game up in an interview.

He wasn't holding the game up, the interviewers on the stream were holding the game up.

And Nick didn't concede, time was called at the end of Turn 2.

So some sketchy misrepresentations of what happened in this thread that can easily sway public perception in the wrong direction. I didn't get the impression Nick or anyone else was blaming Israel more than being very pissed that time was called in only turn 2 with less than 2 hours of play time allowed, given the late start was due to the stream dudes not the players.

AlexRae wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Then it's even more ridiculous to blame Israel when Nick is holding the game up in an interview.

He wasn't holding the game up, the interviewers on the stream were holding the game up.

And Nick didn't concede, time was called at the end of Turn 2.

So some sketchy misrepresentations of what happened in this thread that can easily sway public perception in the wrong direction. I didn't get the impression Nick or anyone else was blaming Israel more than being very pissed that time was called in only turn 2 with less than 2 hours of play time allowed, given the late start was due to the stream dudes not the players.

They had 30 mins left when Nick conceded