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**urbanknight4**

So. All this fighting, strife, and innumerable sacrifice... what for? We all know everything must end. Or, at the very least, progress. The Imperium of Man has held it's own (mostly on it's own) against not only horrific alien and chaotic creatures, but against itself- a sluggish bureaucracy, heretics speaking everywhere, and a dying Emperor.

In Fantasy we learned GW is perfectly capable of pulling the plug on everything and offering up the world to the Chaos scum. With this in mind, and all that's facing mankind:

-A bunch of Tyrannid Hive fleets that maybe not even be the main force itself
-A bunch of Ork WAAGH's, because now the Orks are each other's best friend or something.
-The Necrons are still super powerful and great at tech, even though they're millions of years old.
-Abaddon decided to launch his 13th Black Crusade like the classy guy he is.
-The Tau and the Eldar aren't big threats since they have brains and opposable thumbs they can use, but if the Imperium doesn't stop being against xenos, it may lose these two powerful allies.

...will we be able to survive another millennium? Will GW pop us like the unfortunate life forms of Fantasy? What do you hope will happen down the road for your faction? Am I asking too many questions??

Discuss!

**Farseer Uruvion**

urbanknight4 wrote:
So. All this fighting, strife, and innumerable sacrifice... what for? We all know everything must end. Or, at the very least, progress. The Imperium of Man has held it's own (mostly on it's own) against not only horrific alien and chaotic creatures, but against itself- a sluggish bureaucracy, heretics speaking everywhere, and a dying Emperor.

In Fantasy we learned GW is perfectly capable of pulling the plug on everything and offering up the world to the Chaos scum. With this in mind, and all that's facing mankind:

-A bunch of Tyrannid Hive fleets that maybe not even be the main force itself
-A bunch of Ork WAAGH's, because now the Orks are each other's best friend or something.
-The Necrons are still super powerful and great at tech, even though they're millions of years old.
-Abaddon decided to launch his 13th Black Crusade like the classy guy he is.
-The Tau and the Eldar aren't big threats since they have brains and opposable thumbs they can use, but if the Imperium doesn't stop being against xenos, it may lose these two powerful allies.

...will we be able to survive another millennium? Will GW pop us like the unfortunate life forms of Fantasy? What do you hope will happen down the road for your faction? Am I asking too many questions??

Discuss!

My race will die in one last effort to reclaim our glory, but it will be hopeless. OR, in the event of Orks or Tyranids winning, we may evade.
The Tau Empire will be destroyed completely
The remnants of the Necron Dynasty will be buried and dormant or destroyed.
The Imperium of Man will become overrun.

Either:
Orks will form the largest Waaaaggghhhh the universe has ever seen and will destroy and loot everything in their path.
Tyranids from the depths of deep space will pour over the Galaxy like water over rocks, consuming every single amount of organic matter.
And the most likely, Chaos will destroy and consume everything in this reality, by both the traitorous marines and daemon alike.

Sometimes it's just better to accept one's fate.

**Talys**

Farseer Uruvion wrote:

My race will die in one last effort to reclaim our glory, but it will be hopeless.

That could be Eldar... or Humans... or Necron...

**urbanknight4**

Uggh. I WANT humans to win. What are you guys, heretics? All we need is for Empy to die, reincarnate, and beat Abaddon's face. Then... the galaxy shall have peace

**krodarklorr**

urbanknight4 wrote:
Uggh. I WANT humans to win. What are you guys, heretics? All we need is for Empy to die, reincarnate, and beat Abaddon's face. Then... the galaxy shall have peace

Boo. Then what, you kill all the Xenos? Hell no. Necrons need to reclaim their lost empire and take control of what is rightfully theirs.

**ProwlerPC**

I suppose that would be a human win. But a win for future humans is my bet. If Empy came back I expect the current Imperium in it's state would get reconquered by him and another copy remade back in his liking in the next 1k yrs.

**Psienesis**

The point is to sacrifice just a little bit more of your humanity in order to survive just one more day and ask yourself if it would not, perhaps, have been better to die.

**jasper76**

Golden Throne breaks, Emperor dies, Chapters devolve into warbands, at war with eachother as much as with Xenos and Chaos.

**urbanknight4**

krodarklorr wrote:
urbanknight4 wrote:
Uggh. I WANT humans to win. What are you guys, heretics? All we need is for Empy to die, reincarnate, and beat Abaddon's face. Then... the galaxy shall have peace

Boo. Then what, you kill all the Xenos? Hell no. Necrons need to reclaim their lost empire and take control of what is rightfully theirs.

I'm actually cool with Xenos. I say kill the Ork, Tyrannid, and Necron, but keep the Space Elves as our allies. The Eldar are cool dudes. The Tau are ok, even though they're Communists, but as long has they don't bother our might we won't swat them down like flies. Any other non hostile Xeno can live, but I do so love exterminating rebels and heretics. Chaos obviously has gotta go. Empy will come back and single handedly wax all the Chaos gods, because he's super hardcore.

**Melissia**

Various scenarios:

-- The uptick in fighting inspires the Orks to greater and greater WAAAGH!s, and eventually they swarm over the galaxy. Little pockets of alien races and humanity exist, too small of threats to be destroyed entirely-- the Orks raid them for fun every now and then, but it's no fun to crush them. And the Orks turn the entire galaxy in to a green tide of constant destruction. The Chaos Gods are beaten in to submission by Gork and Mork, and the Tyranids cut their losses, leaving behind a few hive fleets in rear guard as they try to find a new galaxy to eat-- this one is threatening to eat them, instead! Thus begins the Age of the Verdant Wars.

-- The Emperor finally dies, and turns in to a fifth Chaos God. Thus is born The Golden God Empyrean, with domains of Conquest, Endurance, and Fanaticism. The Imperium is splintered by the loss of the Astronomican and their God-Emperor, and the galaxy plunges in to never-ending crusades and fighting. Great swaths of the imperial Cult swap over to the new Golden God, Empyrean, while others bitterly remain faithful to the old creed. But the Golden God Empyrean stops Chaos from taking over entirely, still having some memory of who he was before. Having no other opponents able to stop them, the Chaos gods start to war amongst each other for supremacy instead, making and breaking alliances in a constant stream of conflict. Five empires form, one under each chaos god, each one subsuming aliens and mutants that suit its nature in to it. Thus begins the Age of the Five Gods.

-- The Emperor finally dies. As His soul is lost to the warp, fading away as all the dead do, the Custodians fight a losing battle to keep daemons out of Terra. When the last of the Custodians die, Segmentum Solar is swallowed up in a second Eye of Terror, and the gaze of Chaos is seen throughout the galaxy. Warp storms embrace every stars, and within a century, the entire galaxy is lost to the turbulence of the Warp-- swallowing up even the mighty Tyranid Hive Fleets and the massive Ork hordes. The twin hordes find themselves mutated by Chaos the Hive Mind and the Ork WAAAGH! finding their mindsets a little more in common, allowing them to ally in order to create bubbles of stable warpspace around their worlds. The Eldar, fearing they are next, make peace with their Dark Eldar brothers and the remnants of the Imperium of Man, in order to form bastions within the Webway where their craftworlds and Commorragh can be safe. Thus begins the Age of Consuming Chaos.

-- The Emperor is revived. Fixing the hole within the Imperial Palace, he re-unites humanity, resuming his conquest of the galaxy in a second Great Crusade. Having lost faith in his Astartes, the Emperor relies instead solely on humanity and cechnology. Xeno races that agree to his demands are allowed a world or two each to subsist off of, so long as they do not threaten humanity. The Chaos Gods, fearing what the stability of a unified, properly led Imperium could do to their power, attempt a second Horus Heresy, but without primarchs to corrupt, they can only slow down the progress-- never stop it. The Tau and other minor xeno races, threatened by this new force, agree to ally with Chaos to fight it off. And with Slaanesh weakened enough, the Eldar find their reproductive systems working once more, and attempt to carve out a new empire of their own. Thus begins the Age of Gold.

-- The Necrons finally feel threatened enough to employ their full force, uniting against the galaxy at large. The war is devastating, with stars used as weapons of mass destruction against entire Tyranid fleets, world engines destroying everything they can see, and legions of soulless automatons wiping out all life. The greater part of the Mechanicus makes a deal with the Necrons, embracing the living metal and becoming part of their new empire. However, part of the Mechanicus was horrified by this, and took the best of humanity and hid themselves away within the core of several dead worlds around a blackened star. The Eldar retreated in to the webway, only to find themselves shut off from realspace AND the warp. They took their time to rebuild their empire within the webway, until they could find a way to return. The Chaos Gods, lacking sustenance, enter in to torpor as they absorb the last of their demons back in to themselves. The Tau take what survivors they can and attempt to flee the galaxy, stealing the Necrontyr's frictionless drive in order to make it to another place. As for the Orks, in a last moment of brilliance, the final Ork Weirdboy spread sacrificed himself to spread Ork spores throughout the galaxy's dead worlds, seeding them for a rebirth, before the Orks are slaughtered to the last. As the Necrons return to slumber, the survivors of all races slowly returned to try to repopulate the galaxy, desperately attempting to find the resources necessary in case the Necrons, Chaos, or Tyranids returned. Thus began the New Age of War.

I could probably keep going but meh.

**destrucifier**

urbanknight4 wrote:

I'm actually cool with Xenos. I say kill the Ork, Tyrannid, and Necron, but keep the Space Elves as our allies. The Eldar are cool dudes. The Tau are ok, even though they're Communists, but as long has they don't bother our might we won't swat them down like flies. Any other non hostile Xeno can live, but I do so love exterminating rebels and heretics. Chaos obviously has gotta go. Empy will come back and single handedly wax all the Chaos gods, because he's super hardcore.

You can't kill the Orks, silly. If the Emperor tried to wipe them out, it would be like killing weeds with a lawn mower. In the end there would just be more Orks in more places than before. The more resistance Orks face, the stronger the waaagh becomes. There are two ways to deal with them:
1. Leave them alone. They literally can't stop fighting, so as soon as they run out of stuff to kill they start killing each other.
2. Let the tyranids eat them, assuming the hive fleets we've seen so far are just little scouting expeditions detached from a much larger swarm. Then the 'Nids will gradually incorporate ork genetics into their own, creating monstrous Ork Hive Tyrants who can kill everything effortlessly.

**urbanknight4**

Melissia wrote:
Various scenarios:

-- The uptick in fighting inspires the Orks to greater and greater WAAAGH!s, and eventually they swarm over the galaxy. Little pockets of alien races and humanity exist, too small of threats to be destroyed entirely-- the Orks raid them for fun every now and then, but it's no fun to crush them. And the Orks turn the entire galaxy in to a green tide of constant destruction. The Chaos Gods are beaten in to submission by Gork and Mork, and the Tyranids cut their losses, leaving behind a few hive fleets in rear guard as they try to find a new galaxy to eat-- this one is threatening to eat them, instead! Thus begins the Age of the Verdant Wars.

-- The Emperor finally dies, and turns in to a fifth Chaos God. Thus is born The Golden God Empyrean, with domains of Conquest, Endurance, and Fanaticism. The Imperium is splintered by the loss of the Astronomican and their God-Emperor, and the galaxy plunges in to never-ending crusades and fighting. Great swaths of the imperial Cult swap over to the new Golden God, Empyrean, while others bitterly remain faithful to the old creed. But the Golden God Empyrean stops Chaos from taking over entirely, still having some memory of who he was before. Having no other opponents able to stop them, the Chaos gods start to war amongst each other for supremacy instead, making and breaking alliances in a constant stream of conflict. Five empires form, one under each chaos god, each one subsuming aliens and mutants that suit its nature in to it. Thus begins the Age of the Five Gods.

-- The Emperor finally dies. As His soul is lost to the warp, fading away as all the dead do, the Custodians fight a losing battle to keep daemons out of Terra. When the last of the Custodians die, Segmentum Solar is swallowed up in a second Eye of Terror, and the gaze of Chaos is seen throughout the galaxy. Warp storms embrace every stars, and within a century, the entire galaxy is lost to the turbulence of the Warp-- swallowing up even the mighty Tyranid Hive Fleets and the massive Ork hordes. The twin hordes find themselves mutated by Chaos the Hive Mind and the Ork WAAAGH! finding their mindsets a little more in common, allowing them to ally in order to create bubbles of stable warpspace around their worlds. The Eldar, fearing they are next, make peace with their Dark Eldar brothers and the remnants of the Imperium of Man, in order to form bastions within the Webway where their craftworlds and Commorragh can be safe. Thus begins the Age of Consuming Chaos.

-- The Emperor is revived. Fixing the hole within the Imperial Palace, he re-unites humanity, resuming his conquest of the galaxy in a second Great Crusade. Having lost faith in his Astartes, the Emperor relies instead solely on humanity and cechnology. Xeno races that agree to his demands are allowed a world or two each to subsist off of, so long as they do not threaten humanity. The Chaos Gods, fearing what the stability of a unified, properly led Imperium could do to their power, attempt a second Horus Heresy, but without primarchs to corrupt, they can only slow down the progress-- never stop it. The Tau and other minor xeno races, threatened by this new force, agree to ally with Chaos to fight it off. And with Slaanesh weakened enough, the Eldar find their reproductive systems working once more, and attempt to carve out a new empire of their own. Thus begins the Age of Gold.

-- The Necrons finally feel threatened enough to employ their full force, uniting against the galaxy at large. The war is devastating, with stars used as weapons of mass destruction against entire Tyranid fleets, world engines destroying everything they can see, and legions of soulless automatons wiping out all life. The greater part of the Mechanicus makes a deal with the Necrons, embracing the living metal and becoming part of their new empire. However, part of the Mechanicus was horrified by this, and took the best of humanity and hid themselves away within the core of several dead worlds around a blackened star. The Eldar retreated in to the webway, only to find themselves shut off from realspace AND the warp. They took their time to rebuild their empire within the webway, until they could find a way to return. The Chaos Gods, lacking sustenance, enter in to torpor as they absorb the last of their demons back in to themselves. The Tau take what survivors they can and attempt to flee the galaxy, stealing the Necrontyr's frictionless drive in order to make it to another place. As for the Orks, in a last moment of brilliance, the final Ork Weirdboy spread sacrificed himself to spread Ork spores throughout the galaxy's dead worlds, seeding them for a rebirth, before the Orks are slaughtered to the last. As the Necrons return to slumber, the survivors of all races slowly returned to try to repopulate the galaxy, desperately attempting to find the resources necessary in case the Necrons, Chaos, or Tyranids returned. Thus began the New Age of War.

I could probably keep going but meh.

Sorry bro, but the Tau would never ally with Chaos. They see them as beasts that cannot be reasoned with, and so they fight without diplomacy.

**Psienesis**

That's Orks. The Tau don't negotiate with Orks

**Melissia**

If the Tau can negotiate with freaking Dark Eldar, they can negotiate with Chaos.

At least Chaos has people that don't look and sound like nazi extreme-BDSM fanatics.

**urbanknight4**

Melissia wrote:
If the Tau can negotiate with freaking Dark Eldar, they can negotiate with Chaos.

At least Chaos has people that don't look and sound like nazi extreme-BDSM fanatics.

I need a source on that. Why would the high and mighty Tau empire contact the selfish and barbaric DE?

**Melissia**

Codex: Dark Eldar.

Called the War of Dark Revelations.

The Tau needed help defending against the Tyranids, and the Dark Eldar of the Prophets of Flesh coven said "sure we'll help... if you'll give us 77 Tau from each caste, including seven Ethereals, as a cultural exchange". The Tau deemed the Ethereal price unacceptable, but paid the rest.

Then during the next stage of fighting against hte Tyranids, the Tau found out that the Dark Eldar turned these 308 Tau in to Grotesques, and when the Dark Eldar tried to demand more slaves (either the required seven ethereals, or 7077 other Tau in their place), the Tau were outraged.

They decided to attack the Dark Eldar, but found that they had only attacked a hologram. The real Dark Eldar were raiding the world that they had been defending all along, turning it in to a massive bloodbath involving so many dark Eldar that even Asrubael Vect was involved. When the Tau defenders returned to their world, it was a barren wasteland, its population stolen and brought to Commorragh.

This is evidence enough that the Tau would ally with questionable powers in times of desperation.

**destrucifier**

urbanknight4 wrote:

I need a source on that. Why would the high and mighty Tau empire contact the selfish and barbaric DE?

The Tau serve the Greater Good. Which means the maximum possible amount of good. If they must accomplish lots of evil to achieve the greater good, then so be it. The Greater Good doesn't even have to be very good at all, as long as the maximum possible amount of goodness is achieved in comparison to other options.

**urbanknight4**

Melissia wrote:
Codex: Dark Eldar.

Called the War of Dark Revelations.

The Tau needed help defending against the Tyranids, and the Dark Eldar of the Prophets of Flesh coven said "sure we'll help... if you'll give us 77 Tau from each caste, including seven Ethereals, as a cultural exchange". The Tau deemed the Ethereal price unacceptable, but paid the rest.

Then during the next stage of fighting against hte Tyranids, the Tau found out that the Dark Eldar turned these 308 Tau in to Grotesques, and when the Dark Eldar tried to demand more slaves (either the required seven ethereals, or 7077 other Tau in their place), the Tau were outraged.

They decided to attack the Dark Eldar, but found that they had only attacked a hologram. The real Dark Eldar were raiding the world that they had been defending all along, turning it in to a massive bloodbath involving so many dark Eldar that even Asrubael Vect was involved. When the Tau defenders returned to their world, it was a barren wasteland, its population stolen and brought to Commorragh.

This is evidence enough that the Tau would ally with questionable powers in times of desperation.

This is evidence that the Tau are absolute fools. And what's with not paying the Ethereal price? I understand they're your leaders, but then.... you have to wonder if the mind control theory is right.

**JinxDragon**

Indeed, they where fools!
That is part of the Tau's charm, they are so naive that they trusted the Dark Eldar even though anyone with eyes would know how bad an idea.

As for the Ethereal, keep in mind that all Tau look to this caste as if they where living gods and obey them without question in the name of the 'greater good.' Only Tau who have spend a long time away from any Ethereal, like Farsight has, regain their senses enough to start questioning if the Greater Good is actually for the better of the species as a whole or just the Ethereal Caste. While no one can say for sure how the Ethereal have such a control over the rest of the empire, it is definitely a power that this Caste has and even explains why Ethereal are willing to dedicate some of their number to active combat zones. Seeing as nothing more then an unfortunate need to ensure that their generals continue to have faith in the Greater Good, with Farsight showing exactly what happens if one manages to slip far enough away from this control to start questioning orders.

As for why they would not turn over this Caste:
Would you turn over one of a living gods, that you where enthralled to either through faith or mind-control, simply because some BDSM fanatic asked?

However, I too do not believe the Tau can ally with Chaos while the Ethereal caste lives. The Ethereal already know of Chaos and have deemed them to be a threat to the Greater Good. Due to the lack of psykers, they have not had to bear the brunt of the daemons attention so they are are likely deemed a minor but dangerous threat at best. If I am remembering correctly, this has led them to take the same approach as the Humans when it has come to this threat: The Ethereal actively covering up the existence of the Warp and everything that lives within it.

This ensure any plots involving a union with Chaos will require killing off the Ethereal Caste....
Personally, I think this is a great idea as it will allow the Tau more depth to grow into the setting.

Automatically Appended Next Post:

Can we have Mag'ladroth play a part in the Necron scenario?

Not only is the ground-work already in place, I have always wondered just what the Dragon has been up to for all these millennium. This forgotten and hidden C'Tan could easily become the ultimate 'bad guy' for the Necron to rally against, as it usually takes an external threat to unify a fractured nation and Mag'ladroth may be the only thing large enough to make them all wake up and unite. As the Void Dragon is rumoured to be one of the few C'Tan to have remained 'whole' through all the millennium, this ensures that it has more then enough power to play on the same level as a Chaos God. If the rumours are to be believed, Mag'ladroth was strong enough that even the Emperor could not destroy it on his own home soil of Terra, though he did successfully imprison it within the heart of Mars and this is why we have not heard form it since that date. Many already speculate that the 'machine god' worshipped by the Mechanicus is actually the Void Dragon, allowing for some enriching story-telling should this C'Tan break from containment.

I can easily picture the Mechanicus becoming the Dragon's next bunch of super-soldiers.

**greyknight12**

The Eldar will realize that though hopelessly outnumbered, they actually can outgun and outmaneuver the Imperium. Hilarity ensues.

**Psienesis**

The Void Dragon is sharded. A piece of it is on Mars, almost certainly, but its machine-controlling powers have been available to Necron armies as C'Tan Shard buys for like 3 editions now.

**jackflashultra**

Farseer Uruvion wrote:
urbanknight4 wrote:
So. All this fighting, strife, and innumerable sacrifice... what for? We all know everything must end. Or, at the very least, progress. The Imperium of Man has held it's own (mostly on it's own) against not only horrific alien and chaotic creatures, but against itself- a sluggish bureaucracy, heretics speaking everywhere, and a dying Emperor.

In Fantasy we learned GW is perfectly capable of pulling the plug on everything and offering up the world to the Chaos scum. With this in mind, and all that's facing mankind:

-A bunch of Tyrannid Hive fleets that maybe not even be the main force itself
-A bunch of Ork WAAGH's, because now the Orks are each other's best friend or something.
-The Necrons are still super powerful and great at tech, even though they're millions of years old.
-Abaddon decided to launch his 13th Black Crusade like the classy guy he is.
-The Tau and the Eldar aren't big threats since they have brains and opposable thumbs they can use, but if the Imperium doesn't stop being against xenos, it may lose these two powerful allies.

...will we be able to survive another millennium? Will GW pop us like the unfortunate life forms of Fantasy? What do you hope will happen down the road for your faction? Am I asking too many questions??

Discuss!

My race will die in one last effort to reclaim our glory, but it will be hopeless. OR, in the event of Orks or Tyranids winning, we may evade.
The Tau Empire will be destroyed completely
The remnants of the Necron Dynasty will be buried and dormant or destroyed.
The Imperium of Man will become overrun.

Either:
Orks will form the largest Waaaaggghhhh the universe has ever seen and will destroy and loot everything in their path.
Tyranids from the depths of deep space will pour over the Galaxy like water over rocks, consuming every single amount of organic matter.
And the most likely, Chaos will destroy and consume everything in this reality, by both the traitorous marines and daemon alike.

Sometimes it's just better to accept one's fate.

Ummmmm I'd just like to ask, are you high? The Tau, destroyed?? The Tau empire IS the youngest race by far, one of the most technologically advanced, nearly immune to the forces of the warp AND has only once had its conquests stopped, and that was by the Imperium of Man. They also fought the most successful campaign EVER against the Tyranids. And for you to simply say they "will be destroyed completely." LMAO do you know anything about tau?????

Here is a more likely out come.....

The Imperium of Man will fall and crumble, a few areas still supporting human life will call themselves there own rulers then. Ultramar, Fenris, Imperial Guard regiments, Surviving Space Marine chapters will all follow there own doctrines most likely.
The Orcs will probably remain the same, no more no less, WAAAAAGGGHH
The Eldar will finely be killed off in a desperate attempt to save/retake the galaxy for themselves.
The DE will be fine, living in the shadows of the galaxy is how the got this far right?
Chaos will be the hay maker that finally puts the Imperium on its ass. Upon this the Empire of Man will now be a hunting grounds for Chaos warbands and deamons.
Necrons will emerge from there tomb worlds and once again go about cleansing the galaxy of life. How they do against chaos as a whole at this point is anyones guess.
The Tau will most likely remain generally the same. There Empire might grow a bit. Probably take in millions of humans as converts to the greater good. But definitely not destroyed.
The Tyranids will probably be that "bringer of the end time" the one race that will finally see this galaxy fall and then finally moves to the next. If there is one......

**JinxDragon**

Psienesis,
Looked again and you are quite correct; the question was answered for certain in the latest Necron Codex and I simply overlooked it by not having read that Codex in depth.

Within is an entry on the timeline, where mention of a shard from the Void Dragon being in possession of the Arotepk Dynasty. This entry was to note that it actually broke free from confinement during the year 912.M41, where it destroyed many of the dynasty's worlds and caused a whole lot of problems before it could be put back in it's vault. Regardless for what this says about the Dragon on Mars, there is no uncertainty to the fact the Void Dragon was "Sharded." Which does sadden me, as he was my favourite candidate for an intact C'Tan and a dragon to boot!

There is still potential for the Dragon on Mars to be something greater, even if it is just the most powerful part of the Void Dragon that is still something to be reckoned with, so there are plot lines to be had... how to bring all the Shards together again I wonder....

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Jackflashultra,
Agreed that the Tau are not going to go anywhere, not unless a number of other big Races get wiped out along side them at the same time.

The current Tau Empire can easily be wiped out by any number of the main races out there, not just by the Imperium of Man who already outnumber them millions to one. Yet they are still standing even in the face of the Imperium for one very simple reason: They are too far down on everyone's list that no one has gotten around to wiping them out yet. When we throw a 'galaxy changing event' into the mix, they are likely to become even less of a priority to the people left to struggle with this new threat. The only way they would be wiped out completely is if they suddenly became the 'galaxy changing event' and we both know they need a few more thousands of years of technological growth before they can come close to that.

Most likely they will remain a footnote in history, assuming the Tyranids keep historical records.

**urbanknight4**

jackflashultra wrote:

Ummmmm I'd just like to ask, are you high? The Tau, destroyed?? The Tau empire IS the youngest race by far, one of the most technologically advanced, nearly immune to the forces of the warp AND has only once had its conquests stopped, and that was by the Imperium of Man. They also fought the most successful campaign EVER against the Tyranids. And for you to simply say they "will be destroyed completely." LMAO do you know anything about tau?????

Here is a more likely out come.....

The Imperium of Man will fall and crumble, a few areas still supporting human life will call themselves there own rulers then. Ultramar, Fenris, Imperial Guard regiments, Surviving Space Marine chapters will all follow there own doctrines most likely.
The Orcs will probably remain the same, no more no less, WAAAAAGGGHH
The Eldar will finely be killed off in a desperate attempt to save/retake the galaxy for themselves.
The DE will be fine, living in the shadows of the galaxy is how the got this far right?
Chaos will be the hay maker that finally puts the Imperium on its ass. Upon this the Empire of Man will now be a hunting grounds for Chaos warbands and deamons.
Necrons will emerge from there tomb worlds and once again go about cleansing the galaxy of life. How they do against chaos as a whole at this point is anyones guess.
The Tau will most likely remain generally the same. There Empire might grow a bit. Probably take in millions of humans as converts to the greater good. But definitely not destroyed.
The Tyranids will probably be that "bringer of the end time" the one race that will finally see this galaxy fall and then finally moves to the next. If there is one......

The Tau will go before the Imperium. Their naivette has been proven, and not only that, their relative young age simply serves as a testament to how little power they hold. They won't survive, and even if the Imperium goes first, the Tau will surely follow. You think the conquerors of the galaxy, be they Necrons, Tyrannids, or Orks, will let the survivors alone? Not likely.

Also, a desperate attempt from the Eldar? Lol. They mourn every death. They won't make a desperate attack even if they had a chance to succeed. The Eldar don't roll that way.

**JinxDragon**

The Eldar have some sort of prophecy that requires them all to die in order to defeat Slaanesh, do they not?

**urbanknight4**

JinxDragon wrote:
The Eldar have some sort of prophecy that requires them all to die in order to defeat Slaanesh, do they not?

Doesn't mean they'll go kamikaze as a species. I'm thinking either they fail to defeat him and some survive, the absolute last Eldar, or they succeed with a psychic bomb or something. Not a desperate ploy to "reconquer" the galaxy. Their time is over. There will never be another Eldar empire.

**JinxDragon**

True, they are conspiring for greater things then just Galaxy conquest at this point.

**asorel**

Melissia wrote:Various scenarios:

-- The Emperor finally dies, and turns in to a fifth Chaos God. Thus is born The Golden God Empyrean, with domains of Conquest, Endurance, and Fanaticism. The Imperium is splintered by the loss of the Astronomican and their God-Emperor, and the galaxy plunges in to never-ending crusades and fighting. Great swaths of the imperial Cult swap over to the new Golden God, Empyrean, while others bitterly remain faithful to the old creed. But the Golden God Empyrean stops Chaos from taking over entirely, still having some memory of who he was before. Having no other opponents able to stop them, the Chaos gods start to war amongst each other for supremacy instead, making and breaking alliances in a constant stream of conflict. Five empires form, one under each chaos god, each one subsuming aliens and mutants that suit its nature in to it. Thus begins the Age of the Five Gods.

A slight correction here: Becoming a force of Chaos is not a prerequisite for deification; the Chaos Gods are merely the most powerful subset of warp entities. Case in point, the Eldar pantheon before it was devoured.

Melissia wrote:If the Tau can negotiate with freaking Dark Eldar, they can negotiate with Chaos.

At least Chaos has people that don't look and sound like nazi extreme-BDSM fanatics.

The forces of Slaanesh beg to differ. Also, you would be hard-pressed to find very much in common with Nazi ideals and the Dark Eldar.

**Melissia**

I said they HAVE people. Not that everyone looks like that.

Whereas Dark Eldar don't. Also, your first point is irrelevant, as in the scenario I described, he did become one.

**urbanknight4**

Melissia wrote:
I said they HAVE people. Not that everyone looks like that.

Whereas Dark Eldar don't. Also, your first point is irrelevant, as in the scenario I described, he did become one.

Then I amend your scenario. Empy wouldn't become a Chaos God, he's literally the embodiment of order and scientific progress. I bet he'll either reincarnate in another body, or become a god of light and once again, beat face. Only this time it would be divine retribution. Either way, Nurgle and Co. are toast.