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For Krieg, Thuud guns will do fine if you don't have a Wyvern, while they don't have as many special rules, they're elites so there's less competition for slotes with the large stuff

Would a punisher be a decent pick as well? 20 shots would force them to fail a few saves I think (they as in flyers, MC's and blobs)

 cosmicsoybean wrote:
Yeah but for this army thats 210$ for the base requirements, thats crazy!

I own 200 metal Guardsmen, so $200 isn't too much for infantry models that I like.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 cosmicsoybean wrote:
Yeah but for this army thats 210$ for the base requirements, thats crazy!

I own 200 metal Guardsmen, so $200 isn't too much for infantry models that I like.

I love metal minis, my eldar are mostly metal! I don't think they are as expensive as DK though, 80$ per 10 models, basic troops.

Oh, I have more metal Eldar than guard, but the metal and FW guard are all about having your own regiment, versus samey models like SMs or generic Cadians. Being able to field a distinctive guard force is worth some premium.

Yeah but premium of thousands of extra dollars is a tad much for my tastes hah.

 cosmicsoybean wrote:
Would a punisher be a decent pick as well? 20 shots would force them to fail a few saves I think (they as in flyers, MC's and blobs)

Only for FMC, for 110 pts you can have 2 Thudd guns, that's 8 small blasts with same str as the punisher, more AP and more range, along with barrage rule, and you can give them orders, tho none of the Krieg ones are really good for artillery, I think

 Bobthehero wrote:

 cosmicsoybean wrote:
Would a punisher be a decent pick as well? 20 shots would force them to fail a few saves I think (they as in flyers, MC's and blobs)

Only for FMC, for 110 pts you can have 2 Thudd guns, that's 8 small blasts with same str as the punisher, more AP and more range, along with barrage rule, and you can give them orders, tho none of the Krieg ones are really good for artillery, I think

After seeing the formations and such for krieg im going to slowly build it over time instead, but bolster a main IG army in the meantime. I bought the cadian defence box but still want to keep with the defensive bombardment theme....Just seen I can have 25 mortars PER infantry group! I think i'm in love with this army.....
On a side note, I see the baslisk earthshaker is something like 36"-xx" range, that seems a bit crazy and will make it almost useless in the 'width' style deployment....thoughts?

Basilisks can deploy in the corne

Also, if youre serious about Krieg, consider to save your pennies, and not have Cadians.

 cosmicsoybean wrote:
Northern alberta, Yeah I would be interested but today I just bought the IG codex along with cadian defence force box so im a bit tight on cash for spending right now.
At least Im now officially in the guard!

Huzzah! Another for the Hammer!

 Selym wrote:

 cosmicsoybean wrote:
Northern alberta, Yeah I would be interested but today I just bought the IG codex along with cadian defence force box so im a bit tight on cash for spending right now.
At least Im now officially in the guard!

Huzzah! Another for the Hammer!

Just finished my first Leman russ! I made the battle cannon but have all the hull and sponson guns changeable! This kit is beautiful. As long as the Emperor gives me plenty of mortar and artillery shells, ill fight for him.

Hope you didn't glue the Battlecannon - that thing can be used as a Demolisher or a Vanq, too.

 cosmicsoybean wrote:
I wouldn't mind spending the cash to get them, not at all but I would need to sell off my other armies first, and I don't know how to ship stuff so selling would be tough.

Shipping isn't too bad. You'll need an appropriate box, packing material like bubble wrap and newspaper, and some packing tape. The gist of it - the package should be full of packing stuff so that the models dont bounce around in there, but not so tight that you crush them.

I have sold on eBay twice before, I had a good experience selling, wasn't too hard.

If you sell on eBay, etc, just make sure you mention minor breakage could happen in transit, good to go. Sell to Canada and US only for simplicity, and when payment is made, go to the post office, pay for shipping. Done.

I wouldn't sell more than a battle box worth per listing though - most people on eBay aren't looking to drop $300, they came for the deals. You might be better off auctioning the units individually, even.

Buy something on eBay from a reputable seller first, and they'll show you how it's done.

The box should be cardboard, and about 200% covered in tape.

The interior ought to be either aerated newspaper (my preference) or bubblewrap or foam balls.

I heard so many horror stories about buyers scamming sellers, kind of has me on edge, along with me not having a clue how much to charge for shipping

Honestly, it's safer as the seller.

A few tips:
1)don't offer returns
2)mention items are exactly as in pictures, as is
3)mention breakage is a possibility in transit, but you will pack with appropriate materials

As long as you are not dishonest about what you are selling, you are safe. On eBay, you don't even have to ship until they have posted payment via PayPal, so you are safe there.

As for shipping cost, the larger and heavier a box is, the more expensive it is. You can take pictures, package up, and ask the post office how much it will cost before hand if you wanted. Then you will be sure and can charge correct shipping.

Ah okay. Will ebay walk me through shipping to the USA? They use pitney bowes or something to check packages and do boarder crossing stuff. I think I will be able to snag a nice paycheck from my eldar, most are pewter and stripped.

Stick with necrons, they're good

Shipping between the US and Canada is easy.

Name
Street Address
Town, Province Zip
United States/Canada

Done.

It is functionally no different than mailing within your country - the cost may be different, but your handling is the same

Huh, I may have to start selling some stuff in that case!

Here you go - measure/weigh your box on a bathroom scale, this will give you an estimate.

https://www.canadapost.ca/cpotools/apps/far/business/findARate?execution=e1s1

Well, an update here, just played vs my friends nids with wyvern battery proxie, any reason why there 'good' they did horribly!

How many did you use, and what did you fire at?

Well if the nids were standard nids, then blast weapons don't do much to tyrants or the troops standing on the landing pad.

Wyvern tanks excel at putting wounds on infantry, generally speaking Toughness: 4 or lower. They do decently at T:5, the re-roll to-wound thanks to the Shred special rule helping tremendously when you're only wounding on 5+.

On T:6, you're only wounding on 6's, which is pretty rough even with the re-roll. You'll likely only get a few wounds if you're lucky.

Wyverns MURDER most line infantry, and against tyranids they do pretty excellently against anything non-monstrous, since every shot is twin-linked for purposes of re-rolling the scatter dice, improving their overall accuracy.

If you were hitting things with T:6 or higher with Wyverns, and had lower toughness targets you could have been hitting instead, then you were using them incorrectly/not optimally. If the only target you could hit was Monstrous and/or T:6, then at least shoot it at that target and hope for a few extra wounds to force saves if nothing else.

If you get a good solid hit on the first shot, with the re-roll of scatter due to twinlinked, plus re-roll on the subsequent shot (each of the two Stormshard mortars on the tank are Heavy 2) and re-roll to-wound with Shred, you should generate a solid 2 to 3 hits per template, sometimes more if you're lucky. That's 4 to 6 hits per Mortar (again, 2x Stormshards per tank) meaning 8 to 12 hits per tank, which against T:4 is 6 to 9 wounds per Wyvern after Shred re-rolls on average. Say you're running a bettery of 2 Wyverns, that generates, on average, 12 to 18 wounds on a squad in somewhat ideal circumstances. Not bad for a unit that can fire indirectly out to 48".

(The above math assumes there is a target in range and you're rolling decently and/or capitalizing on units not being spread out to the maximum 2", allowing for at least 2 to 3 hits per template if you hit)

Wyvers do almost nothing to armored targets, and anything T:5 or higher isn't going to be too concerned with stormshard mortar rounds hitting in their vicinity. However, any kind of 'squishy' infantry will likely be levitating off the ground as a result of how hard they're crapping their pants, and even Space Marines/Power armored units will be wondering if they can crawl back in their drop pod and close the thing back up to shield them from the fury of the Wyvern's barrages.

It's a solid tank, and depending on your opponent and how much/what kind of infantry they have, will have them trying to kill it by boring a hole in it with their hate-filled stares.

Hope that helps. Keep playtesting the Wyvern, it'll do you a solid once you learn how to prioritize its targets a little more effectively.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

 Red__Thirst wrote:
each of the two Stormshard mortars on the tank are Heavy 2

....Well gak. I forgot about that, I was running a battery of 3 of them thinking I only got 8 shots in total... ouch.
Yeah it did decently vs his gaunts, but because its a small blast + spacing I could only ever get like 1-2 per blast. Any artillery you could suggest that is large blast or can dent MC's? He is my main opponent for the time being and like nidzilla. I looked and the mantacores seem fantastic.

The IG suck terribad at MC hunting, but try the Manticore. It has D3 large blast with Str 10 Ap 4.

My plasma squads never have any issues with MCs.

 Dalymiddleboro wrote:
My plasma squads never have any issues with MCs.

I'd agree with this.

Who doesn't bring HWS and SWS and PCS and CCS and Vets all loaded for bear with mass plasma and melta?

 cosmicsoybean wrote:

 Red__Thirst wrote:
each of the two Stormshard mortars on the tank are Heavy 2

....Well gak. I forgot about that, I was running a battery of 3 of them thinking I only got 8 shots in total... ouch.
Yeah it did decently vs his gaunts, but because its a small blast + spacing I could only ever get like 1-2 per blast. Any artillery you could suggest that is large blast or can dent MC's? He is my main opponent for the time being and like nidzilla. I looked and the mantacores seem fantastic.

One of the few times I'd just suggest taking a Leman Russ, ally in a Armored Battlegroup Tank Commander in a Vanquisher, give the Beast Hunter/Slayer/Killer shells, start wounding the MC on 2+ and kill them instantly with no armor saves.