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Everything about the game, excluding the Defensive lines, was very 'meh'. This includes the incredibly 'meh' Half Time Show.

Well maybe the kiss between Manning and Papa John was exceptional.

 curran12 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I know it's all cool and trendy to hate on Coldplay and all that, but I thought the entire halftime show was pretty good - as far as halftime shows go.

And yes, that's a fairly low bar to step over...

I normally am not too hard on Coldplay, but their performance just seemed so low key and slow compared to Mars' and Beyonce's. It felt like they were two entirely different shows, and only one show got the energy.

Honestly, my favorite part of the halftime show was Beyonce and Mars going at it in some sort of dance battle when Chris Martin just kinda wedged himself in there. His body language had the "Yeah, Coldplay! I'M RELEVANT!" vibe to it, and it made me laugh a bit. Even so, I preferred Coldplay's music over the others, even if it was a bit more... chill .

Yup.

LOLWUT?

Non sequitur much?

Or is this just typical NY Blustery Bravado?

It's just a sad attempt from a loser fan base to take random shots. Still trying to make the connection to how that even applies here.

NE fan base said Denver could never beat New England now that the had Julian and everyone else.

Denver Beat New England and gave Brady his worse game of the season in the so called "Brady Revenge Tour".

Then it was Denver could never win the Super Bowl

 Alpharius wrote:


Indeed!

Still, congrats to the Broncos!

Now just wait to see which team from the NFC will win Superbowl 50!

Denver won the super bowl.

It's been hilarious watching NE fans on the internet. Your tears are delicious and salty.


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Chancetragedy wrote:
It's just a sad attempt from a loser fan base to take random shots. Still trying to make the connection to how that even applies here.

No random shots here. New England talked gak. got hit.

And not from a loser fan.

Ah, no taking random shots? But I love poking some good-humored fun at the Deflatriots fanbase. (As a Lions kind of guy though, maybe I should just leave )

Back on topic, it was nice to see how happy Manning was. Would be a very nice conclusion to a great career.

 KommissarKiln wrote:
Ah, no taking random shots? But I love poking some good-humored fun at the Deflatriots fanbase. (As a Lions kind of guy though, maybe I should just leave )

Back on topic, it was nice to see how happy Manning was. Would be a very nice conclusion to a great career.

Manning didn't really seem too happy. Or not as Happy as I expected him to be. Just his personality? Eli seemed less than thrilled.

His facial expression read "Crap, no more smack talking at Thanks giving dinner."

Also, ESPN said the Budweiser comment was not a paid plug plus players cannot be paid to endorse alcohol or tobacco. Which I didn't know that was the case. Odd since every other commercial during football games is is coors or bud.

Which means Manning enjoys the second worse beer known to man.

 Piston Honda wrote:

Manning didn't really seem too happy. Or not as Happy as I expected him to be. Just his personality? Eli seemed less than thrilled.

His facial expression read "Crap, no more smack talking at Thanks giving dinner."

In all my years of watching Manning as an NFL QB, I've never really seen him as the super energetic "rah rah" guy... To me, he looked as happy and satisfied as I've ever seen him.

I mean, when I compare Tom Brady's first super bowl win, with his last, he definitely looks more ho-hum about winning yet again, and Brady's always been one to show a bit more emotion than Manning.




But yeah, you're totally correct on the Eli read

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:

Manning didn't really seem too happy. Or not as Happy as I expected him to be. Just his personality? Eli seemed less than thrilled.

His facial expression read "Crap, no more smack talking at Thanks giving dinner."

In all my years of watching Manning as an NFL QB, I've never really seen him as the super energetic "rah rah" guy... To me, he looked as happy and satisfied as I've ever seen him.

I mean, when I compare Tom Brady's first super bowl win, with his last, he definitely looks more ho-hum about winning yet again, and Brady's always been one to show a bit more emotion than Manning.




But yeah, you're totally correct on the Eli read

When tom Brady won his first super bowl he looked like the N64 kid by comparison. his 4th, he had the same emotions as Tony Dungy when he won the SB.

I would be one of those people who would embarrass a lot of people.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Peyton has been nothing but class and good image for whatever team he's on, and The League since day 1, and I can't begrudge the guy anything.

Except for that time at Super Bowl XLIV when he walked off the field without shaking Brees' hand following their loss.

You know, something people with good sportsmanship do:

Some people's 'after the fact' gloating is...hilarious? (I guess that's New Yorkers for you! )

Anyway, doesn't Manning own/part-own a Budwieser distributorship or two?

He used to, but now it is 'unclear' as to whether or not he still does.

But again, at the end of the day - who cares?

Other than the NFL, which states that players cannot

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:

Manning didn't really seem too happy. Or not as Happy as I expected him to be. Just his personality? Eli seemed less than thrilled.

His facial expression read "Crap, no more smack talking at Thanks giving dinner."

In all my years of watching Manning as an NFL QB, I've never really seen him as the super energetic "rah rah" guy... To me, he looked as happy and satisfied as I've ever seen him.

I mean, when I compare Tom Brady's first super bowl win, with his last, he definitely looks more ho-hum about winning yet again, and Brady's always been one to show a bit more emotion than Manning.




But yeah, you're totally correct on the Eli read

I suspect that there are some interesting dynamics in that family and even a bit of dysfunction.

But what I really want to know is why Archie Manning is treated like NFL royalty. He wasn't a great QB, and was only a good one if you believe the narrative that his teams held him back (note that good QBs have found ways to shine on bad teams). He's like Jim Plunkett, but without the championships.

Because he sired 4 super bowl rings, like 6 mvp's, and and emotionless robot. ;p

I've always wondered that myself though. It probably has to do with the fact he played a while on a team like the saints before they were good and was decent.

I suppose, like politicians and hookers, if you live long enough you become respectable. It probably has more to do with him having kids that are also NFL QBs, though: he now has a dynasty.

 Alpharius wrote:
Some people's 'after the fact' gloating is...hilarious? (I guess that's New Yorkers for you! )

Anyway, doesn't Manning own/part-own a Budwieser distributorship or two?

He used to, but now it is 'unclear' as to whether or not he still does.

But again, at the end of the day - who cares?

Other than the NFL, which states that players cannot

Well, if that user above is correct, he cannot make money off of endorsements... Nothing about owning a distributor is saying endorsements, unless he's doing commercials for said local distributor.

 Ahtman wrote:
I suppose, like politicians and hookers, if you live long enough you become respectable. It probably has more to do with him having kids that are also NFL QBs, though: he now has a dynasty.

So basically he's a race horse who never won gak, but sired some champions after being put out to stud. *shrug*


Looking at his stats, he was a 55.5% passer, which wasn't bad for the era. His TDs to INTs is 125-173. Ouch. That's not good even when adjusting for his era, when QBs threw almost as many INTs as TDs. He had 3 good years -- 1978, 1979 and 1980. Topped 60% completions in all three years (a really good number at that time) and made the Pro Bowl in '78 and '79.

Still...in '79 he three 15 TDs and 20 INTs, and that was on an 8-8 ball club, so you can't claim that he was ALWAYS playing from behind like you might say about earlier in his career. One of the narratives you hear is that he took a beating. That's hard to tell without looking at film. He did get sacked a lot...3 times he hit 40+, and that was mostly on a lower number of attempts than you see today. Still, in '80 he got sacked 41 times on 509 attempts, which doesn't seem obscene. Of course, who knows how many other hits he took. Back then you could really drill QBs even if you didn't collect the sack.

Okay, so he had a few good years, and a bunch of bad ones. I dunno...I'm old enough to remember that era a little, and I just don't remember Archie being mentioned among the top QBs like Staubach, Stabler, Bradshaw, Tarkenton, etc. He was a big star in college and a #2 overall pick, and I suspect that plays into the narrative that he was a great QB in a terrible situation.

So years from now if guys like David Carr or Sam Bradford sire a bonafide great QB, I guess they'll become NFL royalty too.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Some people's 'after the fact' gloating is...hilarious? (I guess that's New Yorkers for you! )

Anyway, doesn't Manning own/part-own a Budwieser distributorship or two?

He used to, but now it is 'unclear' as to whether or not he still does.

But again, at the end of the day - who cares?

Other than the NFL, which states that players cannot

Well, if that user above is correct, he cannot make money off of endorsements... Nothing about owning a distributor is saying endorsements, unless he's doing commercials for said local distributor.

Don't know why my post got cut off, but yes, that was my point - NFL (has a 1 billion plus deal for Bud Light) itself has a big deal but I think forbids players from taking endorsement deals for any 'alcohol' deals.

But again, does anyone care?

 gorgon wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
I suppose, like politicians and hookers, if you live long enough you become respectable. It probably has more to do with him having kids that are also NFL QBs, though: he now has a dynasty.

So basically he's a race horse who never won gak, but sired some champions after being put out to stud. *shrug*

Sounds about right. I never heard of him when great QBs where mentioned until his sons were playing.

 Alpharius wrote:
Some people's 'after the fact' gloating is...hilarious? (I guess that's New Yorkers for you! )

Anyway, doesn't Manning own/part-own a Budwieser distributorship or two?

He used to, but now it is 'unclear' as to whether or not he still does.

But again, at the end of the day - who cares?

Other than the NFL, which states that players cannot

Not a New Yorker. You are making this even more hilarious for me.


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Manning owns a Budweiser distributor?

He owns 21 Papa Johns in the state of Colorado. What else does he own?

It's good see an NFL player be financially responsible. Instead of living in a low income apartment snorting coke and broke.

I feel like a players drafted should take a economics class and how to be responsible with their money and invest.

Read an article about Marshawn lynch recently and Gronk before that, they live off their endorsement money. Stash their NFL income. Good to see level headed people who don't buy their "professional friends" expensive stuff. Mike Tyson, Micheal Vick and many others were known for.

 Piston Honda wrote:
I feel like a players drafted should take a economics class and how to be responsible with their money and invest.

Not exactly mr. current events are ya?? Lol, they DO have just those sorts of classes... It's part of the NFL's rookie programs that were developed a few years ago. IIRC, that was put in during the last union CBA talks.

There are financial classes, as well as "how to avoid scams" class, time management/how to be a "pro player" classes, etc. I think it's done sometime after draft, but before fall camps open in pre-season.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:
I feel like a players drafted should take a economics class and how to be responsible with their money and invest.

Not exactly mr. current events are ya?? Lol, they DO have just those sorts of classes... It's part of the NFL's rookie programs that were developed a few years ago. IIRC, that was put in during the last union CBA talks.

There are financial classes, as well as "how to avoid scams" class, time management/how to be a "pro player" classes, etc. I think it's done sometime after draft, but before fall camps open in pre-season.

Wasn't aware of that. Link? I was more aware of the new CBA agreement containing contract agreements and money regarding rookie pay scale and veterans. There were some other stuff in theat CBA agreement regarding player safety, practice, and new player benefits. But don't remember a thing about financial education.

http://www.nfl.com/more/rookie-education


Sadly, most google searches for rookie anything for the NFL are ranking draft classes and whatnot... but that's from the NFL's website, though not quite as in depth as I'd particularly like.

Here in ex-Rams land (St. Louis), I recall several local stories that rookies had that "eye-opening" session over money management. (government takes how much!??!)

Here are some link I found googling regarding Rookie finical education

http://www.nflplayerengagement.com/financial-education/

and this was prior to the new cba

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2010-07-29-nfl-rookies-money-bankruptcy_N.htm

None of that was highlighted by NFL's or ESPN's run down of the new agreement.


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 whembly wrote:
Here in ex-Rams land (St. Louis), I recall several local stories that rookies had that "eye-opening" session over money management. (government takes how much!??!)

Did they become republicans right there and then?


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Watching the Broncos parade right now. Still talking about "IF" Peyton comes back.

Only 1 of 2 things can happen to Peyton if stays. Stays the same. Gets worse. Would you really want someone who had the season he had back?

Also what happens if they drop that Lombardi from off the fire truck onto the road? Do they get a knew one? It will look ugly gouged.

 Piston Honda wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Some people's 'after the fact' gloating is...hilarious? (I guess that's New Yorkers for you! )

Anyway, doesn't Manning own/part-own a Budwieser distributorship or two?

He used to, but now it is 'unclear' as to whether or not he still does.

But again, at the end of the day - who cares?

Other than the NFL, which states that players cannot

Not a New Yorker. You are making this even more hilarious for me.

Hurrah, you win today's Internet?

Not sure what you're after here, but happy to help!

The 30 For 30 Doc Broke goes over the financial problems pro-athletes faced/face and talks about some of the changes in the last few years.

 Ahtman wrote:
The 30 For 30 Doc Broke goes over the financial problems pro-athletes faced/face and talks about some of the changes in the last few years.

Exalted because I did see that one, and it's actually quite good.

 Piston Honda wrote:
Here are some link I found googling regarding Rookie finical education

http://www.nflplayerengagement.com/financial-education/

and this was prior to the new cba

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2010-07-29-nfl-rookies-money-bankruptcy_N.htm

None of that was highlighted by NFL's or ESPN's run down of the new agreement.

So Manziel really is THAT stupid?

 Alpharius wrote:
Some people's 'after the fact' gloating is...hilarious? (I guess that's New Yorkers for you! )

If the Patriots had won the superbowl the gloating would have been biblical. Most of the NE fans I know were very dismissive of Denver both before and after getting eliminated by them.


The only time for gloating is after the fact. Beforehand gloating can lead to humble pie and only makes the gloater look bad even if they deliver (IMO).




Tom Brady is an awesome quarterback and I hope he gets another ring in his last season but the only fan base I know worse than NE (personal experience) is Dallas.