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 Jihadin wrote:
Been pretty much all over the world
Canada, Mexico, Panama, Brazil, Philippines, Japan, South Korea, Thailand, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Some other 'Stans, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi, Israel, Egypt, Ukraine, Romania, Poland, Bosnia, Kosovo, Italy, Germany, France, Sweden, Norway, UK, Honduras........

BBQ......no one has better BBQ then the US of A


its hard to say, north Carolina BBQ is the best in the world hands down but second is defiantly Korean bbq

RoperPG wrote:
Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon?
 
   
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 namiel wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:
Been pretty much all over the world
Canada, Mexico, Panama, Brazil, Philippines, Japan, South Korea, Thailand, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Some other 'Stans, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi, Israel, Egypt, Ukraine, Romania, Poland, Bosnia, Kosovo, Italy, Germany, France, Sweden, Norway, UK, Honduras........

BBQ......no one has better BBQ then the US of A


its hard to say, north Carolina BBQ is the best in the world hands down but second is defiantly Korean bbq


I agree

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Voted “like”. Don’t love because of my displeasure with our current political leaders and I what I believe to be serious inequities in US society and foreign policy.

Obviously I am hopelessly biased and really appreciate the perspective of non-US residents, which is one of the things that I think does make the US great is that more often than not the US collectively is willing and seemingly compelled to submit anything it does to the scrutiny of others. There are of course problems with this and is typified by the opinion poll itself. While seeking the input and opinion of others as driven by our democratic ideals that everyone should have a say and everyone has a right to say it that there are many in this world who do not share those values and cynically take advantage of those ideals to pursue their own agenda. An agenda that which sometime can be the very destruction of the US or to make the US subservient or “weak”. It’s one of the reasons why I dislike the UN and object to the US ceding any authority to it. It is not a body that collectively has the US’s best interests at heart and whose representatives are personally corrupt or from corrupt governments.

Overall, I think the world is a better place because of the US which is why it is at least deserving of "like". That if and when the US falls, much of the civilized world will really and truly mourn and regret its passing.

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I strongly dislike America as a state. It is hard to find a state whose foreign policies I disagree more with. I always disliked them, but I think the russophobia that became much more prominent in American media since 2014 pushed me to hate.
I could start an entire rant here about how the US is evil and everything it did wrong, but I don't think anyone is interested. You can just read it on the internet anyway, my reasons are pretty much the same as those of most Russians.

But once you take their self-righteousness away, I quite like Americans as a people. They are funny and crazy (both in good and in bad ways). They are open, optimistic and have a great sense of humour. Even American politics seem like a comedy show. At least, that is how they present it on the Dutch news, where they only show the crazy parts.

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US is evil?

O.o

Man... the news you get over there must be something else.

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I love America based upon what it has achieved in the past and what it could be in the future.

But based upon how it currently is and what all signs are pointing to it being like in the future, I feel a lot of disappointment. At this point I wouldn't at all mind going to somewhere like Canada or one of the nordic countries, where money isn't tied so firmly into every aspect of the society.

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I... actually don't know. Help?

A nice country, beautiful, but I vote 'meh' because of shootings and religion and all that.

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 whembly wrote:
US is evil?

O.o

Man... the news you get over there must be something else.

Given that he appears to be going mostly by foreign policy, it doesn't require much imagination to see how someone could "hate" America. Especially given, you know, America's (as presented in the news disclaimer) attitude towards Russians, or anyone suspected of being from the vague area of the middle east.

Personally, I vote meh. I mean, it's got a lot going for it, but man, you do have some weird shut going on over there, and unfortunately some of that actually seeps through to us. Things which in my opinion are fething weird (or broken) include your political and judicial systems, military expenditure, copyright law and gun culture. That's just my opinion, though, and I don't mean any of this as a personal attack.

Also, cheese. Man up and call it what it is, that gak is yellow/orange rubber, and is probably outlawed by the Geneva Convention!

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Illinois

they label it appropriately......the call it cheese "product"

RoperPG wrote:
Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon?
 
   
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 Jihadin wrote:
Been pretty much all over the world
Canada, Mexico, Panama, Brazil, Philippines, Japan, South Korea, Thailand, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Some other 'Stans, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi, Israel, Egypt, Ukraine, Romania, Poland, Bosnia, Kosovo, Italy, Germany, France, Sweden, Norway, UK, Honduras........

BBQ......no one has better BBQ then the US of A


Ummm NZ is like the home of the BBQ (the new home). COme here for a real BBQ, heck sometimes we have a BBQ and a Hangi and just feast on the best of both worlds.


 -Shrike- wrote:
 whembly wrote:
US is evil?

O.o

Man... the news you get over there must be something else.

Given that he appears to be going mostly by foreign policy, it doesn't require much imagination to see how someone could "hate" America. Especially given, you know, America's (as presented in the news disclaimer) attitude towards Russians, or anyone suspected of being from the vague area of the middle east.

Personally, I vote meh. I mean, it's got a lot going for it, but man, you do have some weird shut going on over there, and unfortunately some of that actually seeps through to us. Things which in my opinion are fething weird (or broken) include your political and judicial systems, military expenditure, copyright law and gun culture. That's just my opinion, though, and I don't mean any of this as a personal attack.

Also, cheese. Man up and call it what it is, that gak is yellow/orange rubber, and is probably outlawed by the Geneva Convention!


Yay, another American cheese hater. Last time I tried their cheese I felt like my life shortened.
   
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Illinois

Does new Zealand BBQ beef?

RoperPG wrote:
Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon?
 
   
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 namiel wrote:
Does new Zealand BBQ beef?


Sausages, steak, pork, onion, bacon, tomato, kebabs, chicken, beef, hash browns, and well... Probably easier to list what we don't BBQ: Deserts and bread. Oh and some Salads we don't BBQ...

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Illinois

 Swastakowey wrote:
 namiel wrote:
Does new Zealand BBQ beef?


Sausages, steak, pork, onion, bacon, tomato, kebabs, chicken, beef, hash browns, and well... Probably easier to list what we don't BBQ: Deserts and bread.


the only bbq is PORK. anything else is grilled/smoked meat it is not BBQ.

Sauce is not required fyi, sauce is not bbq

RoperPG wrote:
Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon?
 
   
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 cincydooley wrote:
They should have zero say in who can enter those contracts and how many people can enter them once they're past that age of consent.


Because what? I might not like governments too much, but at least we elected these idiots to run our affairs. A priest has no responsibility and no accountability unless a government keeps tabs on him. Personally I wouldn't trust a priest even if I could throw him in front of a car at any moment.
   
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New Zealand

 namiel wrote:
 Swastakowey wrote:
 namiel wrote:
Does new Zealand BBQ beef?


Sausages, steak, pork, onion, bacon, tomato, kebabs, chicken, beef, hash browns, and well... Probably easier to list what we don't BBQ: Deserts and bread.


the only bbq is PORK. anything else is grilled/smoked meat it is not BBQ.

Sauce is not required fyi, sauce is not bbq


Sauce on a BBQ? Nobody puts sauce on a BBQ... You put the sauce on after the BBQ. I think thats what the lid is for, to smoke the meat or something for the most flavour.

We have BBQs in most houses, most beaches and parks and we usually just cook anything we got on them. Usually we simply go "bring some meat" and people come with all kinds of meat. It gets put on and we all eat it after its slow cooked with all the flavour locked in the lid.

Without the lid it is a grill yes. Which is common when it is cold outside.

   
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Spetulhu wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:
They should have zero say in who can enter those contracts and how many people can enter them once they're past that age of consent.


Because what? I might not like governments too much, but at least we elected these idiots to run our affairs. A priest has no responsibility and no accountability unless a government keeps tabs on him. Personally I wouldn't trust a priest even if I could throw him in front of a car at any moment.

I think you're taking it the wrong way. I read cincy's statement as saying that, as it takes place between consenting adults, it shouldn't be anyone's business who does what with whom. Adult over the age of consent? You can make up your own bloody mind what to do with your life, you shouldn't have the government telling you that you can't marry someone of the same sex, or two people at the same time. Nohing in there implies giving power to priests. At least, that's my interpretation.

... actually, this marriage stuff is a bit off topic, really. I don't want to drag this thread down this well-trodden route, so I'll end it there.

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I'm fairly neutral towards the US. There's obviously good and great stuff that's come out of America (cartoons like Venture Bros./Rick and Morty and guys like Stephen Colbert) but then you have the bad stuff which I won't bother repeating since other posters have already covered most of them. The main time I really go against them is during any kind of national/global sports competition like FIFA or the Olympics in particular, its not fair that they win out all those medals from the sheer number of competitors!
   
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America is a great place with great things for most people. It's not a perfect place and it certainly has lots of problems that certainly can and should be better addressed. There are places that do better in some areas, a lot of places that do a whole lot worse. I'd rather live in the US that most other places on earth. Beyond that, I'm not sure what there is to say. It's not perfect, but no place is.

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I see a lot of petty jealously and envy in this thread. You just need to let go of that hate, and accept that the USA is the greatest country on earth.



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Spetulhu wrote:Marriage was a government thing long before religions got their hands on it. The rulers needed to know who would inherit and all that so having a framework for producing legal heirs was necessary. Religions only got into it much later - for example in Europe until the 1500s a priest wasn't necessary at all, only the agreement between two parties.
Marriage really has been tied to religion for much longer then that. Even the Church recognized it as a sacrament by the 12th century. Before even early Christianity, Judaism and Hinduism recognized it as an essential part of one's religious experience. I am not saying the state hasn't had a hand in the development of marriage, but it has had a religious element to it for as long as people have been worshiping.

Spetulhu wrote:But that's what a government does for a marriage contract - sees that both are consenting adults. Without a government having a look at it you're reduced to churches doing it, and they often have laxer standards for "consent" and "adult".
I find this amusing. Since when has the Western Church been accused of being more lax then the government on anything? That certainly hasn't come up in the last 15 years or so.

namiel wrote:its hard to say, north Carolina BBQ is the best in the world hands down but second is defiantly Korean bbq
As somebody who loves BBQ, I must protest. If I wanted something stringy, sour, pathetic, uninspired, and barely palatable I will play Age of Sigmar thank you very much. Truly good BBQ comes from the Lone Star State. I have never had BBQ that even comes close to a good brisket, and lets not forget it is EVERYWHERE in this wonderful state.

-Shrike- wrote:Given that he appears to be going mostly by foreign policy, it doesn't require much imagination to see how someone could "hate" America. Especially given, you know, America's (as presented in the news disclaimer) attitude towards Russians, or anyone suspected of being from the vague area of the middle east.

Personally, I vote meh. I mean, it's got a lot going for it, but man, you do have some weird shut going on over there, and unfortunately some of that actually seeps through to us. Things which in my opinion are fething weird (or broken) include your political and judicial systems, military expenditure, copyright law and gun culture. That's just my opinion, though, and I don't mean any of this as a personal attack.

Also, cheese. Man up and call it what it is, that gak is yellow/orange rubber, and is probably outlawed by the Geneva Convention!
Wait a second. When did Putin become the good guy? I have a ton of friends in Europe, and while they (and myself for that matter) don't care too much for American foreign policy, they all love us in relation to Russia. For Christ's sake, my family in Eastern Europe is terrified of that madman, and they wish we would send over the military to beat the hell out of him. Is Putin a greater political genius then I give him credit? Did he really convince swaths of Europe that he is a pretty decent guy, even after his escapades in Georgia and the Ukraine?

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 JEB_Stuart wrote:
Spetulhu wrote:But that's what a government does for a marriage contract - sees that both are consenting adults. Without a government having a look at it you're reduced to churches doing it, and they often have laxer standards for "consent" and "adult".
I find this amusing. Since when has the Western Church been accused of being more lax then the government on anything? That certainly hasn't come up in the last 15 years or so.


OK, that was perhaps a bit unfair. But the church doesn't protect people from the government - in fact quite a few of our European wars have had the church endorse one side or the other, or both. The church having any say in marriage at all up here in the North is mostly due to the Swedish king giving his new Protestant Church a few gifts after he disbanded the Catholic Church and took all their stuff. And after that the Church made sure to send Chaplains (like those Space Marine guys) with every army, telling people how fighting for the King Ordained By Heaven was righteous and just. And ofc, the Americans have that issue of Mormon subsects endorsing multiple wives and child brides despite the law forbidding such practices.

Point being: Priests aren't automatically any more righteous than anyone else, and if they can hide behind the church they're even less likely to be brought to answer for any wrongdoing. Powerful priests have abused their position before and will do it again. Having set rules is good for everyone.
   
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I love it here. And hopefully I can go for citizenship soon

Spetulhu wrote:
Most of the US seems fine, and your average American is a friendly guy though not always aware of things outside that huge country. I know I'm not as well versed in US history as I could be, but at least I don't call the German guide a liar for claiming her family house is older than Columbus. You know, because history starts when Columbus discovered 'Murica.

We have pubs back home older than the US

SGTPozy wrote:
I hate how many 'Muricans believe that they're superior to everyone else and they're from the greatest country in the world... Reminds me a bit of Nazi Germany...

I've lived here 3 years and have yet to meet a single person like that.

 
   
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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
I love it here. And hopefully I can go for citizenship soon .


Good luck my friend! Will have to make a post when you get it!
   
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Room

I don't like when someone judges others. but now I can't keep.

It is obvious that the USA now the most evil country (for others).

Evil Empire as the Rome was for everyone who refuse to be enslaved.
now there is nobody who so widely uses violence for the purposes
Аnd the country was such earlier - it killed 100000000 native indians and never consider it as crime. "Good indian - dead indian". Something like nazi's slogan isn't it?
WW1, WW2 - it everything sources of the income for the USA. Favorable business.
The American agents financed revolution 1917 in Russia. Then they financed Trotsky. In total for introduction of chaos. in the same way, as they do it today.

Panama, Costa-Rika, Gonduras, Guatemala, Turkey, China, Nikaragua, Salvador, Yougoslavia, Greece, Philipines, Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Laos, Gaiti, Dominican, Irac, Brazil, Bolivia, Chilie, Uruguai, Central Africa, Cambodia, Zambia, Grenada, Libia, Columbia - everywhere America does revolutions, prepares acts of terrorism, interferes, finances dictators and destroys stability.

USA sponsored an prepeared Georgia to invade South Ossetia.
It sposored 2004 Ukraine crysis. It resposible for 2014 events in Ukraine,

There is no justification to all this, but USA own interests.

They even don't have proves, that Bin Laden resposible for 9/11. Note, that Bin Laden was prepeared by USA in 1980s.
Anybody of you knows all details how it was prepared 9/11? no

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 Freakazoitt wrote:
I don't like when someone judges others. but now I can't keep.

It is obvious that the USA now the most evil country (for others).

Evil Empire as the Rome was for everyone who refuse to be enslaved.
now there is nobody who so widely uses violence for the purposes
Аnd the country was such earlier - it killed 100000000 native indians and never consider it as crime. "Good indian - dead indian". Something like nazi's slogan isn't it?
WW1, WW2 - it everything sources of the income for the USA. Favorable business.
The American agents financed revolution 1917 in Russia. Then they financed Trotsky. In total for introduction of chaos. in the same way, as they do it today.

Panama, Costa-Rika, Gonduras, Guatemala, Turkey, China, Nikaragua, Salvador, Yougoslavia, Greece, Philipines, Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Laos, Gaiti, Dominican, Irac, Brazil, Bolivia, Chilie, Uruguai, Central Africa, Cambodia, Zambia, Grenada, Libia, Columbia - everywhere America does revolutions, prepares acts of terrorism, interferes, finances dictators and destroys stability.

USA sponsored an prepeared Georgia to invade South Ossetia.
It sposored 2004 Ukraine crysis. It resposible for 2014 events in Ukraine,

There is no justification to all this, but USA own interests.

They even don't have proves, that Bin Laden resposible for 9/11. Note, that Bin Laden was prepeared by USA in 1980s.
Anybody of you knows all details how it was prepared 9/11? no


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Room

Laughing because you proud of all that?

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 Freakazoitt wrote:
Laughing because you proud of all that?


I just find Dan Browning hilarious.

   
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Room

An all many wars USA was participated, everywhere USA was attacker (except of Pearl Harbor / Japan). But even Pearl Harbour wasn't real US territory that time (Hawai was occupied).
I understand that could exaggerate a little in the previous post, but the fact - America always an aggressor (except Pearl Harbour)
And I didn't learn who and why blew up towers 9/11 nobody offered any exact explanations. though the event was shocking, as a doomsday
But it tured to be doomsday for others, not for USA

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 Freakazoitt wrote:
I don't like when someone judges others. but now I can't keep.

It is obvious that the USA now the most evil country (for others).

Evil Empire as the Rome was for everyone who refuse to be enslaved.
now there is nobody who so widely uses violence for the purposes
Аnd the country was such earlier - it killed 100000000 native indians and never consider it as crime. "Good indian - dead indian". Something like nazi's slogan isn't it?
WW1, WW2 - it everything sources of the income for the USA. Favorable business.
The American agents financed revolution 1917 in Russia. Then they financed Trotsky. In total for introduction of chaos. in the same way, as they do it today.

Panama, Costa-Rika, Gonduras, Guatemala, Turkey, China, Nikaragua, Salvador, Yougoslavia, Greece, Philipines, Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Laos, Gaiti, Dominican, Irac, Brazil, Bolivia, Chilie, Uruguai, Central Africa, Cambodia, Zambia, Grenada, Libia, Columbia - everywhere America does revolutions, prepares acts of terrorism, interferes, finances dictators and destroys stability.

USA sponsored an prepeared Georgia to invade South Ossetia.
It sposored 2004 Ukraine crysis. It resposible for 2014 events in Ukraine,

There is no justification to all this, but USA own interests.

They even don't have proves, that Bin Laden resposible for 9/11. Note, that Bin Laden was prepeared by USA in 1980s.
Anybody of you knows all details how it was prepared 9/11? no


Yeah we're an Evil Empire, and if you Russians keep trying to muscle in on our turf, we'll be sending in the Star Destroyers.

Now I'm off to listen to the new American National Anthem:



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