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is there such a thing? greenstuff is all good but it eventually burns me hands mixing the stuff

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Literally green stuff? not that I've seen. There are pre-mixed filler putties that come in tubes, if that's what you need. But they'd be no good for sculpting.
   
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Oxfordshire, UK

get some gloves to wear while mixing. that's what i do. does not get as ingrained when sculpting, so i take them off then.

I got mine from amazon.co.uk

"Vinyl Powder-Free Gloves"
   
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How are you mixing it at the moment? If you have a tub of warm water it'll make things easier when mixing it (water lubricates it, and if it's warm water it'll also soften it, making it easier to mix).
   
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Green stuff starts to cure when the two colours mix. You cannot get it pre-mixed, sadly. Such a thing would be wizardry.


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cornwall

How is it burning your hands its not exothermic ?
   
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Friction
   
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 CURNOW wrote:
How is it burning your hands its not exothermic ?
I assume the OP is either using abrading their hands or using excessively hot water and burning their hands (it's easier if the water is warm, not so much if it's "hot").

But just one slight point of clarification, it is exothermic. Greenstuff is an epoxy resin and like any other epoxy resin the reaction is exothermic, it's just greenstuff doesn't react fast enough to notice any significant temperature rise (the heat generated by the reaction is dissipated fast enough that we don't notice).
   
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
 CURNOW wrote:
How is it burning your hands its not exothermic ?
I assume the OP is either using abrading their hands or using excessively hot water and burning their hands (it's easier if the water is warm, not so much if it's "hot")..

Some people have a skin reaction to epoxy putties.

Wearing gloves is an easy fix.

 
   
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 insaniak wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
 CURNOW wrote:
How is it burning your hands its not exothermic ?
I assume the OP is either using abrading their hands or using excessively hot water and burning their hands (it's easier if the water is warm, not so much if it's "hot")..

Some people have a skin reaction to epoxy putties.

Wearing gloves is an easy fix.
Ah true, had forgotten about that possibility. We probably need the OP to chime in and elaborate on the circumstances.
   
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Indeed, it is an irritant. Pretty mild one, but reactions will vary.

Milliput is worse.
   
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cornwall

Why are people using water to mix it ? If its to stop it being too sticky then they aren't mixing it enough. Just mix what you will need for a few minutes work two pea sized bits at most this should only take 60s at most to fully mix once its mixed it will loose most of the stickiness. Also not mixing huge bits will to hard to mix and wont need "softening " with hot water
   
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 CURNOW wrote:
Why are people using water to mix it ? If its to stop it being too sticky then they aren't mixing it enough.
Huh? Not mixing it enough? I keep it wet while mixing to avoid getting the residue of the stuff on my hands while kneading it. If I get greenstuff residue on my hands then I find it harder to work with.

The answer to "it hurts my hands to mix it" isn't "well mix it more"
Also not mixing huge bits will to hard to mix and wont need "softening " with hot water
I never said you "need" to soften it with warm water, I said "it'll make things easier". Especially if your house is cold, greenstuff will be much stiffer than on a warm day.

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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
The answer to "it hurts my hands to mix it" isn't "well mix it more"

'Harden the feth up, princess!' should be the answer to all hobby-related queries from now on...


Especially if your house is cold, greenstuff will be much stiffer than on a warm day.

Yeah, mixing putty on a cold day can be problematic. I hadn't actually heard the warm water idea before... will have to try it out.

 
   
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It totally changes the properties of greenstuff when it's warmed up, sometimes for good and sometimes for bad depending on what you're trying to do. I'll often put the kettle on to boil when I'm starting up a sculpting session so that I can warm it up if I want (I don't always warm it up, but sometimes it's useful).
   
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cornwall

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
 CURNOW wrote:
Why are people using water to mix it ? If its to stop it being too sticky then they aren't mixing it enough.
Huh? Not mixing it enough? I keep it wet while mixing to avoid getting the residue of the stuff on my hands while kneading it. If I get greenstuff residue on my hands then I find it harder to work with.

The answer to "it hurts my hands to mix it" isn't "well mix it more"
Also not mixing huge bits will to hard to mix and wont need "softening " with hot water
I never said you "need" to soften it with warm water, I said "it'll make things easier". Especially if your house is cold, greenstuff will be much stiffer than on a warm day.



One of the problems people state when using it it that its too sticky and hard to work with ,from experience that's because they are only mixing it for 30 seconds and then trying to use it and the blue isn't mixed in enough, if you mix it for longer the 2 parts join and it stops it from being sticky and is far easier to work with . If you mixing enough for it to leave residue on your hands then you need to cut down the amount the most ive ever mixed at one time is two pea sized amounts it saves waste and the smaller the bits your mixing the faster and easier it is .
   
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Well you're going to have to come up with a new theory because I don't mix large amounts nor do I not mix them properly

I get residue on my hands regardless of whether I mix a small amounts or large amounts (I don't sculpt anything big, so rarely do I have need to mix more than a single "pea sized" amount").

If I don't use water when I'm mixing it, it'll be more inclined to stick to my fingers when it is fully mixed because it will have worked it's way in to my skin. The same way as if you don't use wet tools (or oil or whatever), at first touch it won't be too much of a problem, but after a while residue builds up on the tool and the greenstuff will stick to the tools and the residue its a bitch to clean off properly.

Greenstuff is also stickier when it's warm, but on the flip side it's softer which makes it easier to mix. That's why I use warm water when mixing, water = not sticking, warm = soft When it's cold it's stiffer and less sticky, so sometimes I like to dunk it in warm water for a while before applying it, then let it cool before trying to smooth it out.

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You cannot buy premixed green stuff. It is a 2 part epoxy, once you mix the 2 colors it starts hardening.
Use gloves if it hurts your hands.
   
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 ColonelFazackerley wrote:


Milliput is worse.


Tastes the worst too :(

Indeed if its a chemical burn then you should wear gloves

Otherwise a stress free way for me to mix it is to instead of kneading it i take the two piece make two bars then pull them long then make layers after a few times twist and do it again. once it gets soft i knead as normal.

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 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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when I say It burns my hand I mean that after I mix so much greenstuff the friction of mixing so much is bad

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Sounds like you are mixing too much. To cut down on friction while mixing dip your fingers in water. You only need to mix until it is a uniform green.
   
 
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