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 Grimtuff wrote:

 ashcroft wrote:
Lucius the Eternal.



So much for the pursuit of perfection...

What exactly is wrong with him? Not every Slaanesh worshipper is a sex-crazed pretty boy that the internet has painted them to be.

#NotAllSlaaneshWorshippers

 Mozzyfuzzy wrote:


#NotAllSlaaneshWorshippers

Okay, I left an open goal there...

For Lucius' fluff, that model is perfect. Take a look at his history - if his model looked beautiful it would be a poor interpretation of him. The scars are from his obsession with pride and victory.

 Selym wrote:
For Lucius' fluff, that model is perfect. Take a look at his history - if his model looked beautiful it would be a poor interpretation of him. The scars are from his obsession with pride and victory.

It's not the face that kills this model for me - though the tongue is a bit derpy. It's the whip - it's a weapon and pose that was never going to work in metal so why not a second sword? The lower robe also robs the legs of any semblance of agility. Lucius doesn't look like a skilled swordsman corrupted by Slaanesh, he looks like a fat Nurgle mutant waving a tree branch.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 ashcroft wrote:
Lucius the Eternal.



So much for the pursuit of perfection...

What exactly is wrong with him? Not every Slaanesh worshipper is a sex-crazed pretty boy that the internet has painted them to be.

It's the pose and wooden sort of corset around his waist that does it for.

 Jimsolo wrote:
I always thought the old Dark Eldar "I'm-wearing-your-face-on-my-face" archon was a strong contender for worst sculpt of all time.

Pretty much the entirety of the old Dark Eldar range. It was Gary Morley sculpts as far as the eye could see, and so very, very few good ones. The fact that Jes was able to not only salvage it, but make one of the most beautiful armies in the process with the modern Dark Eldar is a testament to his excellent sculpting skills.

Taurox and Space Wolf flying bricks for the win.

Why do the various marine chapters need completely different flyers anyway? Spend the time to make one set of DECENT space marine related flyers for 40k and throw out the rest of the crap. I don't really like any of the marine flyers, except on the forge world side.

 Jimsolo wrote:
I always thought the old Dark Eldar "I'm-wearing-your-face-on-my-face" archon was a strong contender for worst sculpt of all time.

Really? I thought it was an awesome model for the time. Here's mine minus the giant spiky bits on his head and splinter pistol.
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 Skriker wrote:
Taurox and Space Wolf flying bricks for the win.

Why do the various marine chapters need completely different flyers anyway? Spend the time to make one set of DECENT space marine related flyers for 40k and throw out the rest of the crap. I don't really like any of the marine flyers, except on the forge world side.

Because its how GW retroactively justifies these books remaining their own separate factions.

I think lucius is a nice model.

That Archon sculpt is terrible.

 Vaktathi wrote:

Because its how GW retroactively justifies these books remaining their own separate factions.

Which I hate too. The old, have to have unique units because they have separate books so that later we can rationalize separate books because they have unique units.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 LeCacty wrote:
Goddammit selym, stop stating the obvious! I mean were the originals CADs or 3d prints or did they just sculpt new ones that look exactly the same because if that's the case- JESUS CHRIST they did well!

The founder of Armorcast, Tim DuPertuis, posts here so he might know better but this was the late 80s/early 90s so no CAD or 3D printing. Probably just resculpted them only bigger.

Basically that's pretty much it. When Mike Biasi started out (as Mike Biasi Studios) the pieces were sculpted in very traditional sculpting techniques; sculpted in clay, then a plaster mold made to cast a resin master that was then cleaned up and final detailed. To make the final molds, mold rubber was painted on the master and then backed with a plaster mold holder. Again, very traditional sculpting techniques.

When Armorcast took over things changed a bit. Mike was still the sculptor, but he got a lathe and many parts were turned/machined. Master models were built more of sheet plastic, resin and modeling putty resulting in cleaner models for the newer pieces. Clay was eliminated from the process. Some of the older models really needed to be redone (Eldar Tempest and Knight) but GW not renewing the license put the kibosh on that. Moldmaking and casting also changed mostly due to my 20 years of experience in making custom lost wax cast jewelry (my profession until we started Armorcast in 1995).

Tim

This. Chaplain Cassius.

I’m not fond of that new Cassius. Much preferred the old 3rd ed one they used. Of course, the rules were different back then, and he didn’t have the c-flamer. Not fond the of excessive detail and derpy face on the new guy.

And just like Lucius the model is perfect appropriate to his background. He is a veteran of the first Tyrannic war.
Being on the front lines against Tyranids does not do good things for one's complexion.

I do wonder sometimes if the current codexes have any background in them. This is (at least) the second time a model has been pointed out as being "off" based purely on their appearance when a reading of their background would tell you exactly why they're supposed to look like that.

If you are to criticise anything about Cassius it's the fact he's standing triumphantly over a Ripper corpse. "Yeah brah. Killed a Ripper. Yeah, I'm that good.

 Grimtuff wrote:
And just like Lucius the model is perfect appropriate to his background. He is a veteran of the first Tyrannic war.
Being on the front lines against Tyranids does not do good things for one's complexion.

I do wonder sometimes if the current codexes have any background in them. This is (at least) the second time a model has been pointed out as being "off" based purely on their appearance when a reading of their background would tell you exactly why they're supposed to look like that.

If you are to criticise anything about Cassius it's the fact he's standing triumphantly over a Ripper corpse. "Yeah brah. Killed a Ripper. Yeah, I'm that good.

he's still really ugly though.

Lucius looks very Hellraiser-ish. Which is probably deliberate.

 Nevelon wrote:
I’m not fond of that new Cassius. Much preferred the old 3rd ed one they used. Of course, the rules were different back then, and he didn’t have the c-flamer. Not fond the of excessive detail and derpy face on the new guy.

Cassius never had a 3rd ed model. There was a conversion based on the Chaplain on the far left of this image

 Grimtuff wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
I’m not fond of that new Cassius. Much preferred the old 3rd ed one they used. Of course, the rules were different back then, and he didn’t have the c-flamer. Not fond the of excessive detail and derpy face on the new guy.

Cassius never had a 3rd ed model. There was a conversion based on the Chaplain on the far left of this image

It’s the picture they used with his rules, so it’s him in my mind. But yah, that’s him. I suspect that the named character/stats came from someone using him in their army at the studio. IIRC a few of the old characters started that way.

Also happens to be the mini I use for my foot/jump chaplain, so I might be a little biased towards him.

All of this.
And also, what´s up with their names? Warrior woman? Really?

Really? You think the last chancers are some of the worst sculpted?

Each to their own I suppose

The worst thing about them is that they have a freaking native in the squad. Like, what.

Once again, people need to read the background; and in this case watch The Dirty Dozen, who the Last Chancers are based on.

Why is Shiv any more inappropriate than any of the other myriad of Imperial Guard regiments across the galaxy? Are we going to rag on Demolition Man for looking like a Cossack?

I like the Last Chancers. Especially the sniper.
And isn't there a whole guard army influenced by native Americans?

 Anteater wrote:
The worst thing about them is that they have a freaking native in the squad. Like, what.

He also looks like he's in the process of sniffing his armpit.

 vipoid wrote:

 Anteater wrote:
The worst thing about them is that they have a freaking native in the squad. Like, what.

He also looks like he's in the process of sniffing his armpit.

It's bad GW photography again. The model is a bit 2d and he's supposed to be going to stab someone in the back, hence the name.

 Anteater wrote:
The worst thing about them is that they have a freaking native in the squad. Like, what.

Those models were sculpted before the tumblr generation appeared and got offended by everything

 MarsNZ wrote:

 Anteater wrote:
The worst thing about them is that they have a freaking native in the squad. Like, what.

Those models were sculpted before the tumblr generation appeared and got offended by everything

 Grimtuff wrote:
Are we going to rag on Demolition Man for looking like a Cossack?

Too right, with a name like that you'd expect him to at least look like this