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2015/11/19 04:39:15
Subject: [io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
Grey Templar wrote: Now that was cool. I'd like to see more detail on that Storm Trooper's melee weapon.
It looks like a baton of some kind:
That is a 1/12 scale model kit from Bandai and it should be released at the end of this month.
Storm Troopers who don't suck seem interesting.
I recall reading an interview with Abrams and he made a point to say that First Order stromtroopers aren't just useless mooks like in the Original Trilogy, where they existed solely as faceless nobodies for the good guys to shoot.
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2015/11/19 04:43:59
Subject: [io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
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Maybe they are more like the EU stormtroopers. Where they were actually the Elite special forces of the Empire, as opposed to the regular Imperial Navy, who we only saw very few of in the movies, and the Imperial Army(who never really appeared at all).
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Maybe a little, though that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
I guess having a new "Big Bad Super Weapon" isn't exactly original, but it has been kinda the 'thing' in Star Wars. Just like C-3P0 and R2-D2's playful banter.
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Breotan wrote: The more we see in the trailers the more this movie feels like a "re-envisioning" of A New Hope, almost on a beat by beat basis.
I think that is intentional on the part of the producers and it's no secret that Abrams often makes his movies to serve as homages to the things and people that have influenced him.
However, I think in practice it might not be that obvious.
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2015/11/19 05:21:19
Subject: Re:[io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
Part of the magic of Star Wars was that first movie, so I could see JJ having a nod to it.
But JJ is also huge into the mystery of movies. He loves surprising people and sometimes he does it well...and other times, not so much.
So he probably wants people to feel like this a homecoming of sorts for the franchise. Then, he will surprise everyone with something we were not expecting.
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2015/11/19 05:57:08
Subject: [io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
Grey Templar wrote: Maybe they are more like the EU stormtroopers. Where they were actually the Elite special forces of the Empire, as opposed to the regular Imperial Navy, who we only saw very few of in the movies, and the Imperial Army(who never really appeared at all).
Going by the WEG RPG, the guys in black who come running out of the Death Star shield generator station in RotJ are Army, and the guys in grey are Navy. Based purely on the films, though, it looks like the Stormtroopers are the only infantry force in the Empire, and the guys in black could be technical personell, off-duty Stormtroopers ar something.
I've purposely avoided the speculation; it's quite entertaining reading all your frenzied comments while having no idea what you're on about.
2015/11/19 10:48:03
Subject: [io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
AndrewGPaul wrote: I've purposely avoided the speculation; it's quite entertaining reading all your frenzied comments while having no idea what you're on about.
That's the best part about all of this... it's all just speculation!
These trailers and teasers have raised more questions than they have answered, which is a beautiful thing. All we know for certain is that Finn was a stormtrooper at some point, Rey lives on Jakku, BB-8 belongs to Poe who is an X-wing pilot, and Kylo Ren has an awesome lightsaber and eventually fights Finn for some reason. These bits of footage satisfy my insatiable for all things Star Wars without completely giving the movie away.
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2015/11/19 13:07:24
Subject: [io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
I'm not sure where BB-8 is from. Is he Poe's and gets adopted by Rey, or is he Rey's and subsequently tags along with Poe? I mean, the first time we see him in the trailer, he's pootling along across the desert on not-Tatooine.
2015/11/19 14:08:26
Subject: [io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
AndrewGPaul wrote: I'm not sure where BB-8 is from. Is he Poe's and gets adopted by Rey, or is he Rey's and subsequently tags along with Poe? I mean, the first time we see him in the trailer, he's pootling along across the desert on not-Tatooine.
AndrewGPaul wrote: I'm not sure where BB-8 is from. Is he Poe's and gets adopted by Rey, or is he Rey's and subsequently tags along with Poe? I mean, the first time we see him in the trailer, he's pootling along across the desert on not-Tatooine.
Clearly Kylo Ren built him.
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2015/11/19 20:28:53
Subject: [io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
AndrewGPaul wrote: I'm not sure where BB-8 is from. Is he Poe's and gets adopted by Rey, or is he Rey's and subsequently tags along with Poe? I mean, the first time we see him in the trailer, he's pootling along across the desert on not-Tatooine.
BB-8 belongs to Poe. It is not known how he ends up on Jakku with Rey.
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d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
2015/11/19 20:31:30
Subject: [io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
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Maybe Poe and Rey already know each other and BB-8 just hangs out with her. Heck, the Jaku scenes could be part way through the movie.
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ProtoClone wrote: Part of the magic of Star Wars was that first movie, so I could see JJ having a nod to it.
A nod to it, yes, but the last time he did a "nod" to something involved a "let's recycle the entire Wrath of Khan story" level of nodding. Even headbangers at a Metallica concert can't reach that level of nodding. This movie better damned well not wind up being a "This is the way I would have done A New Hope".
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2015/11/19 23:08:11
Subject: [io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
Grey Templar wrote: Maybe Poe and Rey already know each other and BB-8 just hangs out with her. Heck, the Jaku scenes could be part way through the movie.
Well, R2D2 was "Luke's" even though he didn't even meet Luke until that first movie. But 60 minutes later he is helping him pilot his X-Wing.
2015/11/20 00:36:45
Subject: [io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
AndrewGPaul wrote: I've purposely avoided the speculation; it's quite entertaining reading all your frenzied comments while having no idea what you're on about.
That's the best part about all of this... it's all just speculation!
These trailers and teasers have raised more questions than they have answered, which is a beautiful thing. All we know for certain is that Finn was a stormtrooper at some point, Rey lives on Jakku, BB-8 belongs to Poe who is an X-wing pilot, and Kylo Ren has an awesome lightsaber and eventually fights Finn for some reason. These bits of footage satisfy my insatiable for all things Star Wars without completely giving the movie away.
You did forget one other piece of important information.... Han and Chewie go "home". So, apparently they've lost the Falcon and are now getting it back?
2015/11/20 00:43:24
Subject: Re:[io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
Wired posted a photo gallery of a couple dozen Star Wars props. As usual, the props are fantastic; alien looking but grounded in reality so they are recognizable.
This is one of my favorites:
Trandoshan tripler on a SoroSuub blaster:
I like it because it takes design cues from Bossk's Hound's Tooth:
Spoiler:
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2015/11/20 00:58:31
Subject: [io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
d-usa wrote: I love the variety in the X-Wing helmets
Indeed.
All of the X-wings and pilot's helmets from Star Wars are unique. It's a shame that most of the original props are no longer around (I think only Biggs' Red 3 still exists in the Lucasfilm archive and it's possible that Wedge's Red 2 is in private hands).
I have a bunch of 1/72 X-wings and I've already done Luke's Red 5 and Porkins' Red 6:
Spoiler:
Luke:
Porkins:
My plan is to eventually do the entirety of Red Squadron.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
2015/11/20 04:23:13
Subject: [io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
Grey Templar wrote: Maybe Poe and Rey already know each other and BB-8 just hangs out with her. Heck, the Jaku scenes could be part way through the movie.
Well, R2D2 was "Luke's" even though he didn't even meet Luke until that first movie. But 60 minutes later he is helping him pilot his X-Wing.
R2-D2 is Luke's because he bought him from the Jawas
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Grey Templar wrote: Maybe Poe and Rey already know each other and BB-8 just hangs out with her. Heck, the Jaku scenes could be part way through the movie.
Well, R2D2 was "Luke's" even though he didn't even meet Luke until that first movie. But 60 minutes later he is helping him pilot his X-Wing.
R2-D2 is Luke's because he bought him from the Jawas
Forgot about those rules of acquisition...
2015/11/20 04:33:38
Subject: Re:[io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
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Indeed. I think the Droids would also count as maritime salvage.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Grey Templar wrote: Now that was cool. I'd like to see more detail on that Storm Trooper's melee weapon.
It looks like a baton of some kind:
That is a 1/12 scale model kit from Bandai and it should be released at the end of this month.
Storm Troopers who don't suck seem interesting.
I recall reading an interview with Abrams and he made a point to say that First Order stromtroopers aren't just useless mooks like in the Original Trilogy, where they existed solely as faceless nobodies for the good guys to shoot.
The stormtrooper blaster has both an attachable stock AND A FOLDING ONE (the "foregrip" is joined by banding (strips) to the buttstock - exactly like the old Sterling the old blasters were taken from). Sure, I get the "homage" to the original design in it, but the orginal was like that because that's how they are stowed - with the folding stock folded.
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2015/11/20 19:28:56
Subject: [io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
Just read an article where Lucas was whining like a little bi*** about how Disney wasn't doing what he wanted with Star Wars and so he was "through" with it.
Never has an interview filled me with such hope for the future.
2015/11/21 01:21:43
Subject: [io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
insaniak wrote: It's not a folding stock on the new version. Just an adjustable foregrip.
I don't think it is either and nothing I've seen of the props makes me think otherwise.
If anything, it's just using design cues from the original E-11 blaster.
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2015/11/21 04:56:37
Subject: [io9] Let's Dissect the Crap Out of This New Star Wars: The Force Awakens Shot
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
