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Hey hey,
After getting pretty stuck into Death Korps fluff and finding out they has their own rules and that its valid with 40k, I've made a Death Korps list that seems incredibly fun (but also probably very flawed). I decided to go full infantry and artillery cos Death Korps.

(Made changes due to the Colossus Bombard being unavailable to the DKoK)

HQ
CCS with Vox and Master of Ordinance

ELITES
3x Heavy Quad 'Thud' Launchers

TROOPS
Infantry Platoon
-Command Squad with Vox
-4x Infantry squad all with Vox (apart from 1squad)
- Heavy Weapons Team with 3x lascannon

Infantry Platoon
-Command Squad with Vox
-4x Infantry squad all with Vox
-Heavy Weapons Team with 3x Autocannon

HEAVY SUPPORT
Battery of 2 Earthshaker Cannons

Battery of 1 Earthshaker Cannon

Battery of 1 Medusa Siege Cannon

So that's twelve S5 AP5 blast templates, four S9 AP3 large blast templates (including master of ordinance) and a S10 AP2 large blast template, as well as 3 lascannons, 3 autocannons and a total of 95 guardsmen (including the infantry squads and command squads)

I feel like, against certain armies, this list would utterly dominate the table. However, I'm sure against fast armies or drop pod/ flyer armies I'd be pretty screwed. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Cheers

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Working on it

I like the idea behind it, but maybe drop a platoon and fill in with armored vehicles? Or the horse rider people

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It's a good list. I think even a drop pod army would struggle to do enough in the alpha strike. The value you are getting for 1500 is is astounding.

Having said that. No anti air.
   
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Colossus is strength 8 now, not 6.
   
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ConanMan wrote:
It's a good list. I think even a drop pod army would struggle to do enough in the alpha strike. The value you are getting for 1500 is is astounding.

Having said that. No anti air.


Yeah, the lack of anti air is painful. If they have any air vehicles that can take out my cannons, I'm pretty screwed. I could possibly shift some things around and possibly squeeze in an ADL but not sure...


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Intercessor wrote:
Colossus is strength 8 now, not 6.


Oh... Sweet haha


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Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I like the idea behind it, but maybe drop a platoon and fill in with armored vehicles? Or the horse rider people


I thought about it, but that means getting rid of a lot of bodies who are potentially all that stand in the way of the enemy to my big guns

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Id get at least an Aegis Defense line, if not a full on Bastion. Your gonna need some AA otherwise the Infantry Horde and the Arty will get destroyed.

Otherwise playing Gunline Guard still works, its hard to compete with the sheer amount of artillery they can bring.

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Perhaps then I'll need to replace a squad or 2 with a bastion and quad-cannon


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So I replaced 2 squads of infantry with: a bastion with a quad-cannon and my command squad now has an Autocannon and a plasma gun. That replaces 20 guardsmen though :C

Alternatively I could have an ADL instead of the bastion and use the extra 25pts to make one of my Earthshaker cannons into a Medusa

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I am not familiar with Death Korps other than the fluff. I think your original version is perhaps better: if you play it like the fluff says to it should work by attrition.

What I would urge is somehow (not sure how) get melta bombs in there or haywire into those platoons.. some sort of AV even basic would give you awesome options.
   
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ConanMan wrote:
I am not familiar with Death Korps other than the fluff. I think your original version is perhaps better: if you play it like the fluff says to it should work by attrition.

What I would urge is somehow (not sure how) get melta bombs in there or haywire into those platoons.. some sort of AV even basic would give you awesome options.


Hmm that's a good idea. I'd have to get rid of some upgrade for it. I do think though, that without any anti air, my siege guns are sitting ducks. I'm leaning more toward the ADL, between that and the Imperial Bastion. With that change, I still have 75 guard (including command squads) and all the templates, lascannons and autocannons as before. But I also have a bit of anti air support and some guarantied cover for some of my troops, and a medusa for some AP2 large blast goodness, replacing one Earthshaker. But 20 guard being taken out is a lot. Considering Death Korps are practically fearless (don't have to roll for leadership if they take 25% casualties when being shot) 20 extra dudes would make a lot of difference...

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Since you are going forgeworld how about a hydra flak tank.. I have no idea how much the cost or how they perform but they look awesome


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Or a vendetta?

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Screw it, I'll go with my original list and see how it goes haha. I have so many models on the board that I'm pretty sure I should be fine. And with so many siege guns, aircraft shouldn't be able to knock too many out a turn haha

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Yeah, I am an eldar player and if I took the most extreme flier formation: the crimson hunter formation I could only get them turn 2 and you would have shot half my other 1000 points to death by then.

In general I really think guard's main weakness is BS3 and troops routing. This list mitigates both those massively as BS3 is hardly any different to BS4 when firing plates and your troops will basically never run.

I'd love to see a marine have to bring his skyhammer grav at you.
   
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Haha I wander if a skyhammer would be able to bust through my lines. Even if they dropped behind me and into my siege guns, they'd still have 90 odd guard to deal with.

Also, it seems like I can't take a proper Colosus Bombard with the small amount of options to them :C so I've replaced it with a medusa cannon and another 'thud' gun, but had to take out a Vox from one squad haha
   
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What about these?

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Heavy-Artillery-Carriage-with-Medusa-Siege-Gun

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Armageddon-Pattern-Medusa

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Death-Korps-of-Krieg-Mars-Alpha-Pattern-Leman-Russ-Vanquisher

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Death-Korps-of-Krieg-Mars-Alpha-Pattern-Leman-Russ-Demolisher
   
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I'm totaly getting one of the Medusa Siege Guns I put it in the list as one of the things replacing the Bombard (as I found the bombard can't be used with Kriegers)
   
 
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