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Aha, I see now. Yeah, that could certainly help. My plan with Robin and Loot, though, is usually just to grab the Loot then take a couple of turns Batclawing to Ammo or Titan, then just sit there and rack up VP until I really need him in the fight.

There is some interest in this game at my club. I'm not really a Batman fan but it looks fun so I'm going to pick up some models for it but I'd like to keep the price down. I've decided on the Joker as no one else was considering him and he's the villain I am most familiar with.

The points value my club was going to start with is around 200 points. If I get the Joker starter and either Arkham Harley or Clown Set 1 I'll get into that range. Any recommendations? I read that the Joker is a swarm gang but I'd like to start off with a sidekick.

Joker is definitely a decent crew for a beginner, the Kaos Agent rule he has means that you won't be punished if you mess up your dice allocation (and you will, until you get the hang of the game, it's a bit of a learning curve) as you can just re-allocate when you activate. Starting out, it's a safety net, once you get good it's lethal!

Tactically I'd recommend the clown set over Harley at this stage. The Shotgun and the Axe are both high-damage weapons that would add a lot of punch, and with Joker, the more guys you have the better. The other option I'd suggest is the Titan clown, having a big, tough brawler like that would be handy if you go up against weaker Sidekicks/Agents, and gives you at least something that can put hurt on someone like Batman or little Bane, and take at least a few hits back.

Of the two, though, I think the clowns offer more. Either set 1 for a pair of fast-ish threatening weapons, or set 2 to get a Shield guy to defend an objective and an Assault Rifle that basically creates a 30cm bubble of 'come into my line of sight and you are dead!'

My wife picked up the rule book as soon as it came out. We only got round to playing the other week. Spent the whole day playing games

I have a tom hardy bane crew and my wife has heath ledger joker and harly (plus a few clowns). She spent the last 3 rounds of one game beating the gak out of TNT. He had Harly smacking him with a bat and 2 clowns kicking him whilst he was down (she was loving it). Poor rolls kept him alive but knocked down.

She won that game, but the next one saw bane tear through most her crew.

It's easily the most fun skirmish game we have played.

Thanks. I'll go with more clowns.

Anyone going to one of the World Tourney events? Trying to get the wife to let me go to the US day.

A friend of mine is running the Canadian one and it's local to me, so yup

Can't get there myself this year, hopefully next time though! I'd love to see some pics from those of you going to the various events! Good luck to you in the tournaments.

And from the official to the totally unofficial, I now have a way to make character cards based on the proper design. First I'm working on Starfire to run with Arsenal and Red Hood (Outlaws for the win!), but does anyone have any characters they want stat cards done up for? I'm going to try and come up with something for the various members of the Arrow cast, and a few from the various animated movies (Sons of Batman from 'The Dark Knight Returns' are definitely on my list, a way to pad Bat-crews without cops), but these are quick enough to do that I can pretty much do whoever.

Any interest in cards for the appropriate Marvel characters? The likes of Spidey, Daredevil, Elektra and Punisher could definitely fit here, and who doesn't want to see Wolverine take on the League of Shadows?

My stuff came today. Not a single piece fits together well, it's going to be a pain assembling them.

In particular this piece (Shotgun guy) seems the worst. The arms and body don't fit together..



It didn't seem to quite match the picture and looking online it seems to be the assault rifle guys body. Asking here to double check before I email for a replacement.

 durecellrabbit wrote:
My stuff came today. Not a single piece fits together well, it's going to be a pain assembling them.

In particular this piece (Shotgun guy) seems the worst. The arms and body don't fit together..



It didn't seem to quite match the picture and looking online it seems to be the assault rifle guys body. Asking here to double check before I email for a replacement.

What kind of minis do you usually work with? If you aren't used to metal, then it can be quite intimidating trying to get the pieces together. Get yourself a decent set of modelling files and with a bit of trial and error, you should get the pieces fitting relatively snug.

I was the same with Guild Ball minis recently, but I found they just needed a bit of work.

Usually plastic but I have used metal before although it's typically 1 piece historical models. I've got a old file from early '00s GW.

Try asking on the official batman forums, you'll have a bigger audience. KM's sculpts aren't very sharp so they don't always fit together well, on the other hand, they aren't exactly stellar in the QA department so a mispack is about equally as likely as a model that doesn't quite fit together.

Yeah, from the 2face starter I couldn't tell whos head went where, they all fit equally badly. Metal :(

Found a thread on the Batman forums with pictures, I definitely got the wrong part. I emailed KM about it and got a reply this morning saying they'll send the correct part.

Managed to get 3 models done over the weekend. The other 2 are filed and waiting to be pinned and have the gaps fixed with greenstuff. Other than the connection side of the parts being awful the rest of the sculpts are good.

I had that figure and the neck does need cutting down and then some filling around to to make join smooth.

Best of luck to everyone heading off to the various Batman Day tournamets tomorrow! Feel free to stick any of your reports, pics or experiences here!


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In other news, sadly, Bat-builder is gone.
http://www.critskillpeople.com/2015/09/bat-builder-has-died-long-live-the-bat-builder.html/#more-5396

Thanks to the crew that ran it for all the help they've provided to use newbies getting into the game! Hopefully something new will come along to fill the void soon!

That's a shame. I spent a while in bat builder looking at ll the option before I decided to get into the game and had chosen a gang.

Got my replacement part from KM yesterday.

edit: This might be a stupid question but I don't know much about Batman. Are the named henchmen actual named characters from comics/games/movies? For example Triston the shotgun clown or August the axe clown. I'd like to try some varied skintones but don't want to change any real characters.

yeah, RIP Bat-Builder. Luckily an app is currently being worked on. But I definitely liked using it not to build w/ what I already have, but to project lists on future purchases/gangs. Luckily I had already come up w/ a purchase list for a Batman gang that gave me 250, 300, 350 lists and I'm pretty sure I memorized it lol.

 durecellrabbit wrote:
edit: This might be a stupid question but I don't know much about Batman. Are the named henchmen actual named characters from comics/games/movies? For example Triston the shotgun clown or August the axe clown. I'd like to try some varied skintones but don't want to change any real characters.

Nah, none of the henchmen are real characters in the comics except Alfred obviously. However, some of ones for the major villains are in the Arkham video games.

Yeah, Bat-Builder was awesome. - I think the most essential part of it is actually the 'planning out purchases' component. I can imagine people getting pretty disappointed if, say, they get Catwoman as a generic free agent, only to find she can't be used in Two-Face gangs.

In order to learn more Batman background I picked up the first 3 Arkham games on a recent Steam sale for ~£10 total. With my poor internet it took forever to download but the games are really good. I can definitely see parts of the games in the rules in addition to the models.

I feel pretty good about my choice of gang, Joker is a great villain in the games. There are also a bunch of free agent villains that I didn't know of before like Killer Croc and Copperhead that are now on my wishlist.

I'm almost done painting my first bunch of models but I'm on the difficult part of painting Arkham logos on T-shirts and Joker's suit stripes. Unfortunately the computer games are proving to be just a bit of a distraction.

Yeah, the Arkham Games are excellent and the way BMG takes elements of them is something that impressed me a lot. And those games are probably my favourite of Mark Hamill's (yes, Luke Skywalker is the Joker for those who didn't know!) turns as The Clown Prince of Crime. The guy in Origins is pretty good as well.

Looking forward to seeing these painted models, I may be working on some Joker stuff myself soon!

The Arkham games were the first IP that Knight Models had in regard to the Batman line. You can see it running throughout the line of models for the past two years. Hell, the whole set of releases from last month were from Arkham Knight.

Its interesting (to me anyway) to watch them expand on the IP ranges that they get access to. 1960's Batman? At least the one. Frank Miller's Batman? Yep. But what about others from those lines?

And its been a firm NO so far for models from the 1980/90's movies, so no Nickelson Joker or Arnold Freeze.

Yeah, there's some kind of licencing issue with the 90s stuff. I'd love to see some more stuff based on Miller's run, especially some stuff from Dark Knight Returns like a Carrie Kelly Robin or some Sons of Batman (as non-cop Henchmen for a Bat-crew). You could add Mutants as Affiliate:Unknown Henchmen for the bad guy crews, as their allegiance changes rather fluidly.

I just recently got into this because Im into batman and saw that someone in the swap shop had some court of owls stuff they were trading. I now have the court of owls (starter I guess?) set and the Butcher, plus some tokens.

I have not had the chance to play yet as Im still working on painting them but they look amazing. Well they are amazing now that I have cleaned them up and got them together, these were the worst miniatures Ive dealt with as far as not fitting and excess flash, Ive never used so much green stuff just trying to get a miniature to look how it does on the box. Honestly, now that everything is together I am really happy with it but my home may have been filled with some serious cursing as I was assembling these. My profile pic is my first completed one!

That's a common complaint. Its not really excusable, but the Knight Models company is literally something like 5 people. They make some great sculpts, the rules set is coming together nicely.

But, yeah, the models seem to have issues: fit is often off and detail gets dull. I have had some suspect ones. I do know they have a good replacement policy, though it takes some time. Again, small staff and international travel.

Got my first lot done. I found getting skin tones that look reasonable rather tricky and freehand is just hard.



Others in my club are getting on with their gangs and it sounds like we'll be able to have our first game around the end of this month.

That's some lovely work right there! Your orange and purple tones are great, and the Clown masks look awesome!

Randomly is there any other places bar the official forums and the FBook groups where you can search for more local players? I'm still trying to find more people to play against.

The new releases have helped spur this on and I want one of each new mini

Not that I'm aware of. Your best bet would probably be to try and demo it at your local club or store if you have one, try and drum up some interest that way. The game definitely seems to be gaining some traction in recent months, so hopefully you'll find some willing recruits or even someone who already plays!

And for the sake of completeness, here's the first of this month's new releases, a Scarecrow gang (which I want right bloody now, thanks KM!)




Also coming this month are the Arkham Knight (hell yeah!), a Militia brute for the crew above and a Mad Hatter crew box (which I'm not too fussed about as I hate the character, but I know quite a few people have been wanting this one for a while!)

There's also some new errata, the most notable of which is that Origins Deathstroke is now a Sidekick in the Scarecrow crew! Which is totally awesome!
http://www.critskillpeople.com/2015/10/new-rules-updates-for-oct.html/

 Paradigm wrote:
That's some lovely work right there! Your orange and purple tones are great, and the Clown masks look awesome!

Thank you

 Duce wrote:
Randomly is there any other places bar the official forums and the FBook groups where you can search for more local players? I'm still trying to find more people to play against.

The new releases have helped spur this on and I want one of each new mini

If you get one of each mini then you'll have enough stuff to loan an gang out and try and find interested players that way!