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There is a certain amount of irony that their attempt to keep the community friendly can actually make it feel unwelcoming.

Yup, I've had some difficulty with the facebook group myself. The thing is, Is, I just try to see it as a facebook game and I divorce it from the game itself (which is really fun).

As, lets face it, unless you're going for a tournament, you're never gonna interact with those guys anyways and there's other places to chat about the game anyhows (like Dakka).

Drew Wood is most definitely not a game designer for Knight Models. He is not an employee of Knight Models. He is not even in close communication with anyone at Knight Models.

He owns the Arkham City Limits BMG fanpage. He was basically the first to post about the game on Facebook and make the fan site there. Because it was the oldest and had the biggest following, KM made it the official fan page.

Really, the fan page does not have a good, close relationship with the KM people. There are a couple of mods there that have developed relations with KM though.

I have heard people complain about the Facebook page before and am not surprised really. PM me if you want to talk more about that.

But, really, don't let Drew Wood tut you off from the game. Both are fun and well designed. KM may get to be more user friendly as well. And keep coming back here to talk about the game

Have you considered emailing Knight Models with your concerns? If you have full copies of the entire conversation that would be good to include. Probably won't lead to much, but it probably won't hurt either, especially if you include the order number of your cancelled preorder.

thank you for all the replies.
I did finally find a way to contact them...their "contact form" seemed to be broken and they did not reply to my other attempts to contact them...finally I asked the guy that ran "ctritskillpeople" and he actually mentioned he now worked for KM. I explained what I had dealt with...haven't heard back.
i was definitely excited about the game and hearing that Drew Wood doesn't reflect KM seems promising.
But KM needs to hear about how bad the Mods are treating fans and potential fans. cancelling my pre-orders and telling those stores my reasoning seems like one way to get a message to KM too...I am a consumer and a fan...stop making me feel unwelcome...there are plenty of friendly great game companies out there that will gladly take my cash.

KM, in my opinion, is getting to the size that they need a community outreach guy. One that can communicate with the various message boards and websites and coordinate with them. One that speaks English fluently, even if its UK English. One that can reach out and find a god-damned distribution center in the US that doesn't run two months behind and isn't constantly out of stock. One that can give some information about what is happening and what is going to happen with their products.

I know the KM team is full of gamers; they made a great game and fun models. But they should know that gamers want information and fair treatment.

tl;dr: Hire a freaking PR guy already.

Drazz is dead on...and I will let my issues fade as you guys get back to enjoying these games...

on that note...any idea when the U.S. is getting it? I heard it was planned to ship out today...but it was unlcear if that was just EU/UK or worldwide.


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ok...one more thing related to KN's poor customer service...and than I am done I swear

Ian Henderson runs a blog that has been a great source of information about BMG and MUMG...he just posted links to the 2 "Official" Marvel pages (the FB one and the forum)

I think it's a good place to post concerns anyone might have with those places...not trolling and not attacking but intelligent critiques of the issues.

Should be getting my X-men and Avengers starters soon, This game is gonna cost me way too much mony, at least the starters are a great deal

FAQ for MUMG is now out, covers a few rules ambiguities and a little on the future of the game (most notably the promise of an MUMG Spidey! Hooray!)
http://pressganger.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/official-marvel-mini-games-faq.html

Should be getting my Avengers and X-men sets in a few days, can't wait to get my hands on them!

Interesting to have a FAQ when no one has the rules heh.

Still its nice to see so it can avoid confusion when learning. Hopeing my stuff comes in the next few days also.

Very glad to see villians are coming soon. Really needed as its weird to have good guys fight good guys.

Not excited for spiderman, always hated him, but it makes sense as hes gonna be in the Cap movie.

Rules are out with all of those that have the sets--so most of Europe. Just not North America.

I haven't taken a close look at the FAQ; its not going to help much when I don't have the rules.

That said, that is a pretty quick turn-around from rules release to FAQ. Well done.

people hve been getting the rules for a few days actually.

im sure its soon someone will post rules online

Received my x men stuff yesterday looks good apart from the broken bits. In regards to the official km groups they are awful. Have had posts removed then banned then after are mailing knight themselves they banned and blocked me on facebook. Pretty sad when that's hardly doing them good publicity between the unfriendly groups and even them banning people. Seems like they don't care if they get bad rep or not. Not nlt that as I am banned from talking to them I cant get replacements for the broken stuff

I know for batman there have been many issues in the past of double bits but missing others.

All my stuff luckily came in one piece and hope to try the game today

 Motograter wrote:
Received my x men stuff yesterday looks good apart from the broken bits. In regards to the official km groups they are awful. Have had posts removed then banned then after are mailing knight themselves they banned and blocked me on facebook. Pretty sad when that's hardly doing them good publicity between the unfriendly groups and even them banning people. Seems like they don't care if they get bad rep or not. Not nlt that as I am banned from talking to them I cant get replacements for the broken stuff

for me...a company that treats me with Disrespect doesn't get my money...and my groups money...they obviously feel they can treat their customer base like idiots and still make money off of them.

...worse part of your situation is you know can't get ANY customer support even though you ARE a customer...all because some overzealous fan in charge of the "official" groups didn't like you...very unprofessional.

So i think it was mentioned each starter has its own mission.

Does it violate anything to post the mission? I dont have x men and using other avenger models so dont have their mission eother. Just guardians of galaxy

If it doesent violate could others share?

If I remember right, photocopying is bad, quoting things verbatim, also bad.

But if someone were to write up the scenarios in their own words with their own diagrams. (Which, quite frankly, would be helpful anyway, cause they are TINY), then there would be less of an issue. I'm not saying there would be 'no' issue (that would be for a mod to decide) but yeah...

The X-Men one is a kind of "Defend the middle of the board" style mission.

 Compel wrote:
If I remember right, photocopying is bad, quoting things verbatim, also bad.

But if someone were to write up the scenarios in their own words with their own diagrams. (Which, quite frankly, would be helpful anyway, cause they are TINY), then there would be less of an issue. I'm not saying there would be 'no' issue (that would be for a mod to decide) but yeah...

The X-Men one is a kind of "Defend the middle of the board" style mission.

The Avengers one is based around 3 Objectives, placed along the centre line, start Neutral and a model in base contact can spend 2 Power to Claim it for their side. 1VP for:

- First player to have ALL objectives Claimed at the end of a turn
- The player with most under their control at the end of the game
- Any time a player has held an Objective for 3 consecutive turns without the enemy capturing them


The idea of new minis coming with new scenarios is great, but I do wish there were some more in the starter book just for some variety... I'll see about getting some written up later if I get time. So far I've mostly just been doing fights to the death (with a turn limit), but will experiment a bit soon.

Really enjoying the game thus far, the mechanics are really exciting and solid, the interactions of powers/types/abilities is very nice, and the first time you pull off a Fastball Special it's just epic! Thor is a real beast to take on, but a 3 turn combo of 'chuck Logan with Colossus', 'Chuck truck with Colossus then beat on downed Thor with Logan' and finally 'steal Thor's power and last HP with Rogue' brought him down...

Only after his For Midgard power played skittles with my nicely lined up X-men though! Top tip, don't bunch up anywhere Thor can feasibly hit you, it hurts!

The guardians of the galaxy one is grab and take 2 objectives.

Each player places a objective 30mm or smaller within 4 inches of the center of the board.

6 turns game

While in base contact you can spend 1 power to grab it and hold on to it.

If your knocked out, dead, pushed, thrown, pulled you drop it where you stand before moving (in the case of a throw or push)

First to 5 VP wins

- First player to make someone drop a objective gets 1 VP

- If you own both at the end of a round, you gain 1 VP

- If you have both in your zone at the end of the game you get 1 VP
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Compel, do you mind sharing yours? Or anyone who has the x men?

Played our first game last night and loved it. Really needs villains but the mechanics are great. Thor and Iron Man really can hit like trucks

Speaking of trucks, also had some questions...

For picking and throwing things at people, can you pick things up equil to your Strength vs its size? Like A tank is a 5 rating, can Thor pick up anything 5 or less?

Yep, that's how throwing works. The item (or character) size must be equal to or lower than the thrower's strength, the damage inflicted by a successful throw is equal to the Size of the thrown item or model. For example, Colossus (Str4) picks up a large car (Size 4) and throws it at Cap, who takes 4 Damage if the throw is successful.

Are there any good resources on modern city scatter terrain? Got buildings and cars, just needs more smaller stuff

str00dles1 wrote:
Are there any good resources on modern city scatter terrain? Got buildings and cars, just needs more smaller stuff

It depends on how strictly you want to define modern.... I'm planning on using my Deadzone terrain from Mantic Games.

Mantic also have a "1950's redbrick" style scenery sets for their Mars Attacks game. A bit too "small town America" but not every fight has to take place in Manhattan.

I think there's plenty of 4Ground Infinity style scenery that you could use if you wanted a Tokyo or Times Square kinda feel.


A scenario I would be playing if I was playing as the X-Men would be something like

It's kinda a last stand sort of situation (hehe). Played on a 3' by 3' board for 6 turns. Player A gets to place all the scenery. Player B then decides whether he wants to either deploy in a 6 inch square in the middle of the board. Or 3 inches onto any board edge.

Deployment looks pretty standard for the game, I'm guessing. However, the person doing the surrounding can't deploy models within 2 inches of each other. (because they're surrounding).

1 point for killing the highest point enemy model (you have to specify which one if equal)
1 point for your highest point dude NOT dying
1 point if >50% of your models were still alive. Then an extra point if *all* your models are still alive.
1 point if you've killed >50% of your enemy models.
You must overdramatically shout "JEANNNNNN!!!!!!" if a model with red hair is killed during the battle.

Anyone managed to get some games in yet and figure out some neat interactions/combos that the rules seem to feature a fair few of?

Other than the awesomeness that is the Fastball Special, one I've found a good and very fluffy one is to use Cap's Avengers Assemble ability early on to regroup. Infiltrate Widow and fly up to lay down some early ranged damage with Stark and Thor, then move up Cap last and use Avengers Assemble to pull all 3 of them (with some careful positioning and Cap's 'Agile' rule you should be able to get all 3 in the 8" radius) back to then play a little more defensively the next turn as they all cover each other. Worked rather well in last night's game, took Cyclops and Rogue down a few HP early on then set up a solid defensive position.

Anyone got any other neat tricks and tactics?

No real combos ive seen. I had window start the game adjacent to the relic so turn one she grabbed it, moved, grabbed the other then I had Cap be her bodyguard as she ran off with them. Tony and Thor really can hurt which they did on Drax (though hes a tank also)

hoping to grab some scatter terrain at the local hobbytown usa today and grab deadpool, nova, and panther from the FLGS Weds and get another game in

Got my first MUMG minis painted up, Cap and Widow, both awesome sculpts.




On to the X-men tomorrow. Might also see about kitbashing and house-ruling some Hydra/SHIELD/RAID/AIM goons for bashing.

str00dles1 wrote:
Are there any good resources on modern city scatter terrain? Got buildings and cars, just needs more smaller stuff

I don't know about the US, but Ainsty in the UK do all sorts of skips, grit bins, vending machines, crates and piles of rubbish, piles of tyres and Jersey barriers, as well as pavement pieces with bollards. They also do interior furniture, too.

There's also Black Cat Bases and Fenris Games. Fenris have wheelie bins, pillar boxes, propane tanks (perhaps not so useful to hide behind!), dustbins, fire hydrants, 44gal. drums, plant posts, skips, a police box, street lamps and a wide variety of manhole covers for an assortment of real and fictional cities (sadly not Rome, though).

I finally found time to paint some of my Batman minis, so here's some quick Ninjas. I basically just focused on finishing these guys as quickly as possible, so they don't look like much (though to be honest I'm not sure how much more I could have done with them, I'm not very good at painting cloth):



Their names are, from left to right:
Ninja 01
Ninja 02
Ninja 03
Lars Andersen

(Seriously, look up Lars Andersen on youtube if you don't already know who that is).

Lovely work on those, very nice cloth texture and the wooden weapons add a nice splash of colour and contrast. Can we expect Ra's to follow soon?