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Yes, strangely chaos has one of the most powerful tools in the unending horde detachment, but few people seem to have caught on yet. Shhh, don't tell.

 counterwavecounter wrote:

 Flanker wrote:
You claimed to have "broken the Eldar" and challenged all to give a good counter. There are plenty of good lists in this thread to which you have responded with something along the lines of "I'll just put them here and do this! I win!"

Word! And didn't you say earlier that you didn't win the tournament. If your list is unbeatable, shouldn't you have won?...

I should have won, my opponent cheated the last game and I didn't realize it till I look over his list after.
As for counters to the list only flyrant spam/lictor shame has giving me a run for my money (has beatin it) and yes if you put up a list I'm going to give you a my gameplay reaction on what I would do and how I would play against it.

Dman137 wrote:

 counterwavecounter wrote:

 Flanker wrote:
You claimed to have "broken the Eldar" and challenged all to give a good counter. There are plenty of good lists in this thread to which you have responded with something along the lines of "I'll just put them here and do this! I win!"

Word! And didn't you say earlier that you didn't win the tournament. If your list is unbeatable, shouldn't you have won?...

I should have won, my opponent cheated the last game and I didn't realize it till I look over his list after.
As for counters to the list only flyrant spam/lictor shame has giving me a run for my money (has beatin it) and yes if you put up a list I'm going to give you a my gameplay reaction on what I would do and how I would play against it.

Oh, everyone should have guessed this already. You are so good at this game and even better at building lists, the only way to even have a chance of beating you in this game is via cheating. Don't worry, you're still the best 40k general ever. In fact, have you considered a professional career in 40k? You, if anyone, could have a shot at that.

Yeh Scommy its two different detachments from the Vraks book. As Gordon Shumway says, Unending host is one of the most OP things out there if built correctly.
When combined with the Purge for the extra elites and HS slots it just becomes crazy.

I've read this thread, and I just have to say:

1) You didn't break anything, you just took the typical eldar cheese list, and left out the knights
2) You are extremely arrogant and are either a great troll from the responses you got, or a really just that ignorant and full of yourself.
3) The only counter you would accept is the same list, played by you, on a table of your choice.

Even simple flyrant spam is enough to eat this list alive, what a joke haha.

Eldar are really strong but no stronger than the other powerful codexes out there.

 Aijec wrote:
Even simple flyrant spam is enough to eat this list alive, what a joke haha.

Eldar are really strong but no stronger than the other powerful codexes out there.

If you even bothered to read the thread you would have seen that I said flyrant gives this list a hard time

On a side note I read Da boyz is doing highlander style so you may need to revisit your build to meet the comp.

 Aijec wrote:
Even simple flyrant spam is enough to eat this list alive...

Both figuratively and literally!

skycapt44 wrote:
On a side note I read Da boyz is doing highlander style so you may need to revisit your build to meet the comp.

I saw yesterday, there's a lot of people pretty upset about it because highlander is pretty lame and there highlander rules are stupid, eldar don't get hurt that much because they have so many good units that it doesn't really matter, but a lot of marine players are pretty pissed off because everything is 0-1 so only 1 drop pod. So alpha strike army's are nurffed hard,
I already made up a list for it, it's pretty much

3 devastator centurions
drop pod
5 scouts
librarian

10 scatbikes,warlock
Farseer,shard,stones
5 rangers
Hemlock
Wraithknight
10 warpspiders

Fire raptor

1850

This is turning into a "my dad is the best and can beat up anyone else dad."

Bring your unbeatable list to a GT, or play in multiple tourneys and gain some status in a competitive field with multiple other people who have same skill level, gain some wins or close wins without having to claim someone cheated you... Then join the wait list of what is considered top tier, by rinse and repeating.

/thread

Tsilber wrote:
This is turning into a "my dad is the best and can beat up anyone else dad."

Bring your unbeatable list to a GT, or play in multiple tourneys and gain some status in a competitive field with multiple other people who have same skill level, gain some wins or close wins without having to claim someone cheated you... Then join the wait list of what is considered top tier, by rinse and repeating.

lol I have enough credibility in competitive tournements, and having status in 6th edition and now 7th edition is a joke when you see the army's that have won. All these "deathstar" armys winning events. 40k will never be what it used to be back in 4th/5th where people had to actually have skill to play.

So the Fennels and other lvo champs. The 3 peat adepticon winner, Nana, other nova partcipants who constantly place and have great ranking in organized global 40 ranking like ToF and Itc, and the templecon onslaught 2 years in a row champ are all flukes? Hahah yeah maybe they should post how they are the masterminds of the game and only lose due to cheaters... Because talking about how great your list is and calling creditable winners skillless or lucky supercedes the actual victory of said players.
Whats your next tourney? Is it a GT? Id be interested to hear how you do and see who you play.

How about [insert random psyker-heavy deathstar list], but with a vindicare added to headshot your culexus?

Tsilber wrote:
So the Fennels and other lvo champs. The 3 peat adepticon winner, Nana, other nova partcipants who constantly place and have great ranking in organized global 40 ranking like ToF and Itc, and the templecon onslaught 2 years in a row champ are all flukes? Hahah yeah maybe they should post how they are the masterminds of the game and only lose due to cheaters... Because talking about how great your list is and calling creditable winners skillless or lucky supercedes the actual victory of said players.
Whats your next tourney? Is it a GT? Id be interested to hear how you do and see who you play.

Power gaming list that win events go figure, adepticon won by screamerstar and dronestar.. Tell me again how hard that must be

Dman137 wrote:

Tsilber wrote:
So the Fennels and other lvo champs. The 3 peat adepticon winner, Nana, other nova partcipants who constantly place and have great ranking in organized global 40 ranking like ToF and Itc, and the templecon onslaught 2 years in a row champ are all flukes? Hahah yeah maybe they should post how they are the masterminds of the game and only lose due to cheaters... Because talking about how great your list is and calling creditable winners skillless or lucky supercedes the actual victory of said players.
Whats your next tourney? Is it a GT? Id be interested to hear how you do and see who you play.

Power gaming list that win events go figure, adepticon won by screamerstar and dronestar.. Tell me again how hard that must be

hahahaha, so in the same thread, that you started, allegedly breaking eldar to be unbeatable, you have the gaul to accuse someone of power gaming.

Also that list takes skill, hence all the people who copy it and fail miserably with it...

Regardless, your thread says you can take on anyone. Well unless they are skill-less, beat you and you can declare cheating, or are power gamers?

Seems more like excuses, and your declaration should have some contingencies to avoid further embarrassment.

What about the rest of the list that win? the other tourney winners I spoke about above?
And again, whats you next tourney? size? I know we are kinda going tit for tat last few replies, but I am generally interested in some of your results and who and where said results occur.

Tsilber wrote:

Dman137 wrote:

Tsilber wrote:
So the Fennels and other lvo champs. The 3 peat adepticon winner, Nana, other nova partcipants who constantly place and have great ranking in organized global 40 ranking like ToF and Itc, and the templecon onslaught 2 years in a row champ are all flukes? Hahah yeah maybe they should post how they are the masterminds of the game and only lose due to cheaters... Because talking about how great your list is and calling creditable winners skillless or lucky supercedes the actual victory of said players.
Whats your next tourney? Is it a GT? Id be interested to hear how you do and see who you play.

Power gaming list that win events go figure, adepticon won by screamerstar and dronestar.. Tell me again how hard that must be

hahahaha, so in the same thread, that you started, allegedly breaking eldar to be unbeatable, you have the gaul to accuse someone of power gaming.

Also that list takes skill, hence all the people who copy it and fail miserably with it...

Regardless, your thread says you can take on anyone. Well unless they are skill-less, beat you and you can declare cheating, or are power gamers?

Seems more like excuses, and your declaration should have some contingencies to avoid further embarrassment.

What about the rest of the list that win? the other tourney winners I spoke about above?
And again, whats you next tourney? size? I know we are kinda going tit for tat last few replies, but I am generally interested in some of your results and who and where said results occur.

This list would beat that daemons list. Next event is warmasters and then it's DaboyzGT

Cool maybe I can give you a run at daboyzgt. There is another GT in manchester CT. The e guy who won LVO last year is running it. Before entry fee's, the store is already contributing like 2k worth of prize fee, then 100% entry fee also on top of that.

If NY daboyz isnt to much of a trip manchester CT isnt much further, its in october.

Tsilber wrote:
Cool maybe I can give you a run at daboyzgt. There is another GT in manchester CT. The e guy who won LVO last year is running it. Before entry fee's, the store is already contributing like 2k worth of prize fee, then 100% entry fee also on top of that.

If NY daboyz isnt to much of a trip manchester CT isnt much further, its in october.

Send me a link to that and yeah I'd love to come, the group I'm going with were from Toronto, so I'm sure if i swing the idea by them They would want to come down.

Conversion Beamers.
S10 AP1 Heavy 1 Blast at 42" range to 72" range.
Have fun.


/enddiscussion

shortymcnostrill wrote:
How about [insert random psyker-heavy deathstar list], but with a vindicare added to headshot your culexus?

The Vindicare is a horrid choice to try to kill the Culexus it takes him on average 36 rounds of shooting to kill the Culexus...

As for the list. It is decent the double Wraithfighters is good and with no pod I worry about the Culexus getting shot to bits before he gets to deny the invisistar it's powers. Thunderknightstar run by a good player causes you issues. As does lictor shame as you've mentioned. I also fancy EldAIR against you as the Crimson hunters ruin the Wraithfighters whilst their Wraithfighters ruin your bikes. I would also worry about some of the Alphastriking lists doing real damage before you can respond.

It does seem you are having success with the list but I do find it hilarious that you start by saying the list has no counters and is unbeatable then admit it has lost and has some bad matchups...

So no you haven't broken Eldar you've written a good eldar list. That is all. I was wondering how exactly did your opponent "cheat" at adepticon?

rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:
Conversion Beamers.
S10 AP1 Heavy 1 Blast at 42" range to 72" range.
Have fun.


/enddiscussion

Good choice, but does it ignore a cover save? Does it require line of site?

Tsilber wrote:

rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:
Conversion Beamers.
S10 AP1 Heavy 1 Blast at 42" range to 72" range.
Have fun.


/enddiscussion

Good choice, but does it ignore a cover save? Does it require line of site?

DEATHSTRIKE MISSILES AT THE READY!

Dman137 wrote:

skycapt44 wrote:
On a side note I read Da boyz is doing highlander style so you may need to revisit your build to meet the comp.

I saw yesterday, there's a lot of people pretty upset about it because highlander is pretty lame and there highlander rules are stupid, eldar don't get hurt that much because they have so many good units that it doesn't really matter, but a lot of marine players are pretty pissed off because everything is 0-1 so only 1 drop pod. So alpha strike army's are nurffed hard,
I already made up a list for it, it's pretty much

3 devastator centurions
drop pod
5 scouts
librarian

10 scatbikes,warlock
Farseer,shard,stones
5 rangers
Hemlock
Wraithknight
10 warpspiders

Fire raptor

1850

Ah Sentinels of Terra, reminding everyone why we hated 3.5 Iron Warriors.

I play against a guy with a similiar list regularly and my Nurgle CSM/Nurgle Daemons do very well against it. Deep Striking Terminators, summoned Daemons, and Flying Daemon Princes help box the bikes in and then you just pound them. Heldrake and Flying Daemon Princes combo vector striking your Hemlocks almost guaranteed to bring one down each turn if done right. You're list isn't unbeatable at all you just need better competition.

Dman137 wrote:

Tsilber wrote:
Cool maybe I can give you a run at daboyzgt. There is another GT in manchester CT. The e guy who won LVO last year is running it. Before entry fee's, the store is already contributing like 2k worth of prize fee, then 100% entry fee also on top of that.

If NY daboyz isnt to much of a trip manchester CT isnt much further, its in october.

Send me a link to that and yeah I'd love to come, the group I'm going with were from Toronto, so I'm sure if i swing the idea by them They would want to come down.

That could be fun since Da Boyz is now a no go with its highlander shiz.

Tsilber wrote:

rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:
Conversion Beamers.
S10 AP1 Heavy 1 Blast at 42" range to 72" range.
Have fun.


/enddiscussion

Good choice, but does it ignore a cover save? Does it require line of site?

Well for gak like Wraithknights, LoS isnt the problem, also, stick the Techmarine in an LR with Servitors to give cover/backup shooty.
Blast ignores cover IIRC?

I'm confident my highlander list can handle yours. Well see in November

raoiley wrote:
I'm confident my highlander list can handle yours. Well see in November

See you there