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Ha.

Ha ha ha.

Hahahahhahahaha.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Seriously though, I like the fact that you could pretty much print out the FW newsletter as an Earth caste propaganda poster; all it's lacking is a "Do you want to know more?"

It's also interesting that it doesn't have experimental rules; more evidence of a new IA book being right around the corner?

Or they just forgot the stamp on the PDF which isn't out of the realms of possibility.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
This thing is way larger than a Riptide, so using single Riptide to convert this thing is a no-no

The whole purpose of converting is to take one thing and turn it into something else. The starting size of the base has no real bearing on the size of the finished model.

That's a lot of conversion work, though. You might as well just start from scratch.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
This thing is way larger than a Riptide, so using single Riptide to convert this thing is a no-no

The whole purpose of converting is to take one thing and turn it into something else. The starting size of the base has no real bearing on the size of the finished model.

Yeah but it's like converting a dreadnought into a Knight, or a Knight into a Reaver or something. Seems a counterproductive base for the conversion.

We had a guy pass off a small toy dinosaur as a Squiggoth once, it wouldn't surprise me if people tried to pass off a Riptide conversion as a Ta'SupAr.

That's a beast of a Super Heavy Walker GMC.

Le sigh.

I called it a while ago. Still, this thing will die like a bitch to grav.

I heard once that the desigination of garg vs. walker was more about the movement than anything else (360 shooting for example) to represent something more dynamic and less lumbering on the field.

Which, fits a suit, sort of. Now, of course, they just need to clean up the rules.

Overall, I like it - its not bad, but its not OP or amazing.
Which is good. we have too many OP things.

Of course, this has context: Compared to knight titans, wraithknights etc. (or centurions) its decent.

Of course, those units are ....on the very high end of points efficiency.

Compared to a hierophant ....well, lets just say the hierophant is pretty bad.

(edit: wording).

Honestly this thing seems pretty fair (for a Titan at least) in terms of power for it's points cost.

T9 is actually easier to wound than AV14 (AV14 needs a minimum of S8 to glance, while T9 needs S6 I think?). Yeah it has 10 wounds, but that seems in line with the rest of the Titans available. The 2+ isn't a big deal, if you're hitting a Titan with a sub AP2 weapon, either something has gone horribly wrong or you're doing it wrong. The GC status plus the invul does make it pretty survivable, but nothing insane, a 4++ followed by FNP is certainly not unheard of in normal 40k.

The big thing I think people might be missing is that it's a GC, meaning it can only shoot 2 of it's weapons at a time, right? So, in an average turn of shooting against a heavy target, it's only shooting the equivalent of 3 Lascannons and a single D blast. Coming from a 600pt Titan, that is not a lot of firepower at all. Yeah, this guy will wreck hordes and SM, but Tau have always been able to do that, Tau aren't getting new capabilities, just a new tool to do the things they already could.

Is the KX139 good? Of course it is, never gonna deny that. Is it OP? Right now, without any time at the table with it, I'm gonna say no. It's pretty survivable, and can put out some heavy firepower depending on the circumstances, but as long as you are going after it with proper anti-Titan/GC weaponry and units (S D, Fleshbane, S8+, AP2, Grav, etc.) I don't see this guy running train on your army.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
This thing is way larger than a Riptide, so using single Riptide to convert this thing is a no-no

The whole purpose of converting is to take one thing and turn it into something else. The starting size of the base has no real bearing on the size of the finished model.

Yeah but it's like converting a dreadnought into a Knight, or a Knight into a Reaver or something. Seems a counterproductive base for the conversion.

Which doesn't matter to quite a few people out there. Look at how many people have built Thunderhawks and Storm Eagles from the Stormraven kit. All I'm saying is don't automatically dismiss the idea.

Just because they build it, doesn't mean I have to allow them to use it.

I look forward to my Soul Grinders/Defilers becoming Monstrous Creatures when they redo those books. ;P

chaos0xomega wrote:
Just because they build it, doesn't mean I have to allow them to use it.

I look forward to my Soul Grinders/Defilers becoming Monstrous Creatures when they redo those books. ;P

Who are you kidding? lol. Always going to be vehicles lol. (Despite the above having legitimate reasons for being Monstrous. Pretty sure anyone would gak themselves with a giant possessed spider bot thingy stomping toward them)

I know, I was just being wistful, while also trying to make a statement about the bs criteria that FW is using to determine unit type.

Meeeh, nothing to contribute, just to say that I'll get myself one of those.

 jonolikespie wrote:
Wasn't one of the original design concepts for the Tau way back when they were created that they were a rapid reaction force with lots of aircraft, fast transports, and NO TITANS?

I've been asking that for months and no one has been able to provide me an actual source quote. People just took the simple abscence of titans to mean that the Tau are specifically against titans and that fanfic took on a life of its own for over a decade until the introduction of the Riptide suits and their fluff.


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 Shigematsu wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
So I'm unfamiliar with Titan rules. How does this tack up against those? Primarily the Warhound since it seems like it could put some hurt on it.

I'd say it'd have some problems against the Warhound if the Warhound is kitted up for Superheavy Hunting with 2x Turbolasers firing off 4 D shots. This configuration is also the only fair matchup considering the only other contender, the Plasma Blastgun would be unreliable at best at getting through its 10 wounds in a 6 turn average game.

The stupid thing about 40k (or at least one of many) is that the "kitted up for Superheavy Hunting" loadout works just great against elite infantry and other smaller, cheaper vehicles as well. 4 large blasts that wound on 2+ and ignore cover always and invuls occasionally is great for pretty much the optimal loadout for everything except for a green horde ork or gaunt swarm nid army.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Or they just forgot the stamp on the PDF which isn't out of the realms of possibility.

It doesn't even have the secondary guns on it's wargear list. It's just things that are specific to that "armour type"


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 warboss wrote:

 jonolikespie wrote:
Wasn't one of the original design concepts for the Tau way back when they were created that they were a rapid reaction force with lots of aircraft, fast transports, and NO TITANS?

I've been asking that for months and no one has been able to provide me an actual source quote. People just took the simple abscence of titans to mean that the Tau are specifically against titans and that fanfic took on a life of its own for over a decade until the introduction of the Riptide suits and their fluff.


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 Shigematsu wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
So I'm unfamiliar with Titan rules. How does this tack up against those? Primarily the Warhound since it seems like it could put some hurt on it.

I'd say it'd have some problems against the Warhound if the Warhound is kitted up for Superheavy Hunting with 2x Turbolasers firing off 4 D shots. This configuration is also the only fair matchup considering the only other contender, the Plasma Blastgun would be unreliable at best at getting through its 10 wounds in a 6 turn average game.

The stupid thing about 40k (or at least one of many) is that the "kitted up for Superheavy Hunting" loadout works just great against elite infantry and other smaller, cheaper vehicles as well. 4 large blasts that wound on 2+ and ignore cover always and invuls occasionally is great for pretty much the optimal loadout for everything except for a green horde ork or gaunt swarm nid army.

Even against those it has 4 large blasts plus more. That's pretty good against those armies and no one plays gaunt swarms and they're easy to beat anyway

Is it possible that the new HH book will be out for the Open Day? I'm looking forward to getting a RoW for my Blood Angels.

Wow just wow. T9 10 wound gargantuan creature with those weapons! Now I know why people complain when they play tau lol

Looks like the balance scale is tipping in tau's favor again!

 455_PWR wrote:
Wow just wow. T9 10 wound gargantuan creature with those weapons! Now I know why people complain when they play tau lol

Looks like the balance scale is tipping in tau's favor again!

As opposed to a 6w t8 wraithknight for less than half the cost? Nah, it's still second fiddle to eldar.

Thamor wrote:
Is it possible that the new HH book will be out for the Open Day? I'm looking forward to getting a RoW for my Blood Angels.

I think it's a good possibility. Fw has been pretty good about releasing one book in the spring and one in the fall since they started the HH.

So, has this made the rounds yet? Found it on Facebook but it's attributed to Frontlinegaming.org. Lots of Eldar stuff.

https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2015/09/18/signals-from-the-frontline-episode-373/

FW took down Void Dragon Phoenix some time ago.

So Eldar made a mockery of the Dark Kin, and now Corsairs look like they will as well. Sigh.

Hope they restock the firestorm when they publish the new IA 11 2nd edition

Looks awesome. Four faction Freakshows: can't wait!

I have waited so long for this update. I have nearly 4000 points of corsairs and I want tosee them on the table next to my harlequins.

I hope they still have the "outcasts" option so I can put my striking scorpions out there. The corsairs are one reason I want the book, the other is my spacewolves happen to be Bran Redmaw's great company. I hope they give me back my wulfen...

SpyderG6 wrote:

Thamor wrote:
Is it possible that the new HH book will be out for the Open Day? I'm looking forward to getting a RoW for my Blood Angels.

I think it's a good possibility. Fw has been pretty good about releasing one book in the spring and one in the fall since they started the HH.

Can anyone please give me some advice on collecting these books? I have been looking at them for a while and am at a point were I have too many models needing painted to buy anymore so I was thinking of buying into these books.

Do they all have a pretty heavy fluff content, or is it only the first one or two that are fluff heavy? In other words are they worth it? I like reading rule books but not at this money, but if I get some really good, 60% plus, fluff that I don't get elsewhere with some super art I could go for them.

 Knockagh wrote:

SpyderG6 wrote:

Thamor wrote:
Is it possible that the new HH book will be out for the Open Day? I'm looking forward to getting a RoW for my Blood Angels.

I think it's a good possibility. Fw has been pretty good about releasing one book in the spring and one in the fall since they started the HH.

Can anyone please give me some advice on collecting these books? I have been looking at them for a while and am at a point were I have too many models needing painted to buy anymore so I was thinking of buying into these books.

Do they all have a pretty heavy fluff content, or is it only the first one or two that are fluff heavy? In other words are they worth it? I like reading rule books but not at this money, but if I get some really good, 60% plus, fluff that I don't get elsewhere with some super art I could go for them.

The big black books are mostly fluff yeah. There's a campaign in each and some rules but 60%+ is definitely about right for them fluff wise. You can PM me if you have any more questions about them if you like

Also, I hope the corsair jetbikes have 4+ armor. 3+ is too much for eldar besides aspect warriors.