Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion

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**shade1313**

Well, they posted the bundles, but the savings are so nonexistant, or close to it, that my resolve remains intact.

**beast_gts**

Forgeworld Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth bundles:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NZ/The-Horus-Heresy?Nao=0&Nu=product.repositoryId&N=102786+4294965468&qty=8&sorting=phl&view=table&categoryId=cat2210033

**Yaraton**

Januine wrote:
ooooh - I could do with a new mug. I'll take an Alpha legion one - in that shimmery blue>green jazz they got going.....with a hyrdra handle

Word.

**Matt.Kingsley**

These bundles are perfect for everyone in Australia and New Zealand, since Betrayal at Calth is included in the bundle at the UK price, and not at a conversion of our prices.

Thank you Forge World!

Essentially here in Australian we're getting Betrayal at Calth at 33% off (using the cost of the new armour bundles). What a steal!

**Januine**

Nice!!! You guys finally getting a decent break on the pisspoor prices they hit you with down under

**Yaraton**

This exceptional bundle represents an entire Legiones Astartes company with their supporting units and war machines. The models included allow you to dive straight into the cataclysmic warfare of the Horus Heresy.

Included are one hundred and fourteen plastic models and seven complete resin kits;

• Ninety Legion Tactical Space Marines in MK4 armour, with a huge selection of weapons and custom features, including nine each of heavy bolters, missile launchers, flamers, melta-guns and plasma guns, which could be used to build these Space Marines as specialist Legion Tactical Support or Legion Heavy Support Squads.
• Fifteen Cataphractii Terminators with a variety of close combat and ranged weapon options.
• A full talon of three Contemptor Dreadnoughts, each armed with a Close Combat Fist with inbuilt combi-bolter and a choice of multi-melta or Kheres assault cannon.
• Three Praetors in Cataphractii Terminator Armour.
• Three Legion Chaplains.
• A Techmarine in Mk IV Armour.
• A Cerberus Heavy Tank Destroyer.
• A Typhon Heavy Siege Tank.
• A Legion Sicaran Battle Tank.
• A Storm Eagle Gunship.
• A Spartan Assault Tank.
• An Achilles-Alpha pattern Land Raider.

You will also receive a 6ft tall poster featuring a Space Marine from the Legion of your choice from the list below, specially printed for you. After you have placed your order please contact the Forge World Customer Service Team with your order number and your choice of Legion from: Alpha Legion, Death Guard, Emperor's Children, Imperial Fists, Iron Hands, Night Lords, Raven Guard, Salamanders, Sons of Horus, Ultramarines, Word Bearers, World Eaters.

Also included are three copies of the full Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth game, each including four double-sided boards, beautifully printed on thick card stock; a forty-eight page book, featuring an introduction to the battle on Calth and comprehensive rules and scenarios for playing the game; forty-two command and reference cards, used to introduce effects and events into the game; twelve dice and an array of markers used in-game.

All at merely $1,741.69 CAD
If only I win the lottery tonight...

**Nicorex**

Januine wrote:
ooooh - I could do with a new mug. I'll take an Alpha legion one - in that shimmery blue>green jazz they got going.....with a hyrdra handle

Actually this is what its like. Its a plain white ceramic mug, that slowly turns your Tea into coffee while you are waiting for it to cool down enough to drink. When you spit out the coffee you see a small Hydra head at the bottom of the mug.

**Januine**

A mug that turns tea in coffee? THAT I would pay good money for!

**BrotherGecko**

Nicorex wrote:
Januine wrote:
ooooh - I could do with a new mug. I'll take an Alpha legion one - in that shimmery blue>green jazz they got going.....with a hyrdra handle

Actually this is what its like. Its a plain white ceramic mug, that slowly turns your Tea into coffee while you are waiting for it to cool down enough to drink. When you spit out the coffee you see a small Hydra head at the bottom of the mug.

I appreciate that honest and pure LOL you gave me. Have an exalt!

**shade1313**

Yaraton wrote:
This exceptional bundle represents an entire Legiones Astartes company with their supporting units and war machines. The models included allow you to dive straight into the cataclysmic warfare of the Horus Heresy.

You will also receive a 6ft tall poster featuring a Space Marine from the Legion of your choice from the list below, specially printed for you. After you have placed your order please contact the Forge World Customer Service Team with your order number and your choice of Legion from: Alpha Legion, Death Guard, Emperor's Children, Imperial Fists, Iron Hands, Night Lords, Raven Guard, Salamanders, Sons of Horus, Ultramarines, Word Bearers, World Eaters.

All at merely $1,741.69 CAD
If only I win the lottery tonight...

They would sell the crap out of those posters if they offered them for regular sale.

**sockwithaticket**

I appreciate that they probably had to rush them out, but the painting and composition of most of those example models in the bundles is below average. Not to mention that many of them do not follow the established 30k aesthetics for their Legion. Lurid green Salamanders? Bleurgh.

Those pictures also reveal just how chunky the plastic MKIV legs look and how undynamic the stock poses are. Do not want.

**RedFox**

Si are the FW bundle offering any kind of savings ?

**nudibranch**

Honestly I think those FW bundles are a bit excessive. I'd probably only buy a couple of those head/torso packs to scatter among squads/represent veterans/sergeants. What I will be buying are heavy weapon packs and flamers (starting a Deathguard army.)

**Crystal-Maze**

sockwithaticket wrote:
I appreciate that they probably had to rush them out, but the painting and composition of most of those example models in the bundles is below average. Not to mention that many of them do not follow the established 30k aesthetics for their Legion. Lurid green Salamanders? Bleurgh.

Those pictures also reveal just how chunky the plastic MKIV legs look and how undynamic the stock poses are. Do not want.

They've gone with a gunmetal colourscheme on the Iron Hands that is way lighter than their usual black/near black.

**sockwithaticket**

And the Night Lords look almost like Crimson Fists.

The Sons of Horus are the only ones that look legitimately good.

Others, like the Word Bearers and Ultramarines have the right scheme, it's just horribly executed. The white on the Ultras and any of the bare heads

**Crystal-Maze**

sockwithaticket wrote:
And the Night Lords look almost like Crimson Fists.

The Sons of Horus are the only ones that look legitimately good.

Others, like the Word Bearers and Ultramarines have the right scheme, it's just horribly executed. The white on the Ultras and any of the bare heads

I think the poorly-executed schemes can probably be chalked up to lack of time - if the bundles hadn't been pre-released at the same time as the box game people might have ordered the box where they might otherwise have wanted a bundle.

I seriously don't understand some of the changes in colour schemes though - Iron Hands, Night Lords and Salamanders all look way lighter than usual.
Wondering if these are going to be the 'new standard' colour scheme for those legions a la the change in Alpha Legion colour scheme a while back (although the AL does have the excuse of always having several colour schemes in play at any given time).

**Tannhauser42**

One possible reason for the color difference could be, because GW is now making 30K into a core game, they're forced to use GW only paints for these models. Historically, FW has used whatever paints they want for their models, but that may no longer be the case.

**Crystal-Maze**

Tannhauser42 wrote:
One possible reason for the color difference could be, because GW is now making 30K into a core game, they're forced to use GW only paints for these models. Historically, FW has used whatever paints they want for their models, but that may no longer be the case.

That's thought might have some mileage in it, but doesn't really explain the Iron Hands new duds.

**Tannhauser42**

Probably just a difference in painters, as well as possibly even photography. I wouldn't be surprised if all of these new bundle marines were painted by the GW guys (with possible painting videos to come) rather than the FW guys. And because they're tied to a GW core product, they may have had the usual photoshop treatment that the GW model pics get, making things brighter than they might normally be, etc. We'll know more as more stuff comes out, I guess.

**ImAGeek**

I think it will just be because of time. They had to paint 160 models for it remember.

**sockwithaticket**

They will have known this release date for months and the sprues of the plastic MKIV marines leaked earlier in the year said 2014. They've been around a while, as have an awful lot of the upgrades used.

The only reason there would have needed to be a rush on 160 figures is incompetence.

It's going to be a core product, possibly bigger than AOS, the sloppiness of presentation is indefensible. My boss would have my job for an equivalent dropping of the proverbial ball.

**H.B.M.C.**

sockwithaticket wrote:
I appreciate that they probably had to rush them out, but the painting and composition of most of those example models in the bundles is below average. Not to mention that many of them do not follow the established 30k aesthetics for their Legion. Lurid green Salamanders? Bleurgh.

They weren't rushed out. They were painted by volunteers as the workload of painting that many sets in all the Legion colours was too much for the in-house FW guys to take with their current workload.

That's why the Emperor's Children ones look terrible.

+

**SharkoutofWata**

Quick question folks, has there been a leak of the Corsair Prince from the new IA 11? Got a whole bunch of bits but just waiting for the perfect build to become obvious. I think I remember the basics, like the Brace of Pistols, and relics from all Eldar forms, but I can't remember well enough to commit to glue.

**Temujin**

They can only get relics from other books by taking that path, and missing out on the other fun stuff.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?413737-Possible-update-to-Eldar-Corsairs-coming-soon&p=7553707&viewfull=1#post7553707

mercury14 on warseer wrote:
Anyway, Corsair Princes/Princesses all have their own dark little obsessions and *may* take one of the following paths at no cost:

A) Seeker of Forbidden Pleasures (aka The Drug Lord) - The Corsair Prince gains the Corsair Combat Drugs special rule and any unit in the same detachment (infantry/JP infantry, jetbike) may get Corsair Combat Drugs for +15 points per unit.

Corsair Combat Drugs (aka the "those Dark Eldar drugs just make me sleepy" drug list).
1) +1A
2) +1S
3) +1I
4) +1T
5) +1 WS
6) Roll for two drugs (!!!)

*waits to sober up*

B) Traveler of Forgotten Paths - The Webway Prince. Because walking is for chumps. The Prince gets a Multi-phase key generator and any other character in the detachment can get one too. So wtf is this thing?

Multiphase Key Generator - the model gets Deep Strike, something about carving the webway. In addition it may be activated during any shooting phase instead of shooting to open up a webway gate within 3" of the model. All your reserves can enter through it except not vehicles. If any of your guys are falling back within 3" of it, they can go in it and enter ongoing reserves.

C) Collector of Ancient Treasures - This is how the Prince can get a relic from CWE, DE, or Harlequins. Mask of Secrets maybe. Also any other character in the detachment can slap Master-Crafted on their weapon for 10 pts. It doesn't say it has to be a CC weapon.

D) Reaper of the Outer Dark - For the Prince that's really loves killing. The Prince gets Rampage and any unit in the detachment can get Rage for free. But whenever they're within 8" they *must* charge. If they killed a unit with shooting and have another enemy within 8" they get to (must) charge it.

E) Wielder of Profane Powers - This Prince picked up something that should have been left unfound. Gains +1 psychic ML, meaning they can be ML2. Must pick at least one Maelefic Demonology power and other psykers in the detachment get access to Demonology. When they peril, replace the 6 (remember they have their own perils chart as I posted) with:

Lust for Dark Power: The Prince went too far down the dark path (d'oh!). For the rest of the game at the beginning of every psychic phase the Prince must attempt a Malefic power using at least 2WC. If for some reason they can't, they get pinned automatically.

F) Survivor of Endless Darkness - For the geriatric prince 3000 years old who's basically a ghoul going around sipping elixers to postpone death. This prince is insane and possibly sort of like a mummy with makeup. Gains It Will Not Die but if he fails it, he crumples to the ground coughing up dust (auto-pinned).

Any other units in the detachment can get FnP for +10 points

**SharkoutofWata**

Awesome, that's what I was looking for. Thanks.

**giantearlessgnome**

sockwithaticket wrote:
They will have known this release date for months and the sprues of the plastic MKIV marines leaked earlier in the year said 2014. They've been around a while, as have an awful lot of the upgrades used.

The only reason there would have needed to be a rush on 160 figures is incompetence.

It's going to be a core product, possibly bigger than AOS, the sloppiness of presentation is indefensible. My boss would have my job for an equivalent dropping of the proverbial ball.

Given the obsession with secrecy GW has I doubt the production date matters. As mentioned by H.B.M.C they would have needed volunteers (potential leak paths) given the sheer volume of models and as such would have left it quite late to paint so as to maintain that iron clad veil of secrecy!

**rtb02**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
sockwithaticket wrote:
I appreciate that they probably had to rush them out, but the painting and composition of most of those example models in the bundles is below average. Not to mention that many of them do not follow the established 30k aesthetics for their Legion. Lurid green Salamanders? Bleurgh.

They weren't rushed out. They were painted by volunteers as the workload of painting that many sets in all the Legion colours was too much for the in-house FW guys to take with their current workload.

That's why the Emperor's Children ones look terrible. +

In your opinion. I for one like the EC colour scheme and would like their recipes!

**Crystal-Maze**

rtb02 wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
sockwithaticket wrote:
I appreciate that they probably had to rush them out, but the painting and composition of most of those example models in the bundles is below average. Not to mention that many of them do not follow the established 30k aesthetics for their Legion. Lurid green Salamanders? Bleurgh.

They weren't rushed out. They were painted by volunteers as the workload of painting that many sets in all the Legion colours was too much for the in-house FW guys to take with their current workload.

That's why the Emperor's Children ones look terrible. +

In your opinion. I for one like the EC colour scheme and would like their recipes!

Your quote is broken!

**H.B.M.C.**

rtb02 wrote:
In your opinion. I for one like the EC colour scheme and would like their recipes!

I was kidding, hence the

+

after it.

**RedFox**

Not FW news related but does anyone know if a tech priest auxillia can join a tech thrall covenant? Thinking of giving them FnP 4+