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 Kirasu wrote:
I hope that weapon on the Ordinatus is sold separately since I absolutely hate how the vehicle looks.. but the weapon is awesome.

Find an Ork friend.

I for one would LOVE to have the tracks for an Orky conversion.

 kronk wrote:
"Cyclonic Melta Lance" was the name of my band in high school.

I think I can just make it out in the background of your avatar.

 BrookM wrote:
It is a Volcano cannon mounted on tracks.

I thought that's what a Shadowsword had, certainly in Epic days it was.

Assuming it is the same as the Warlord, it is a Belicosa Pattern Volcano Cannon. The Shadowsword has a regular Volcano cannon (same as the Reaver can take I believe).

Yeah, massive blast D weapon with 120" range or thereabouts.
And that's the cheap (points wise) option…

 Yaraton wrote:
Is Ordinates more like a Titan on tracks or more like a big gun that can also move a bit?

Ordinatus-class weaponry is actually meant to be larger than Titan-class weaponry. An Ordinatus is a mega-weapon of unparalleled power, it's a starship gun on tracks.

Smaller Super-heavy tanks can have titan-class weaponry.

 Harriticus wrote:

 Yaraton wrote:
Is Ordinates more like a Titan on tracks or more like a big gun that can also move a bit?

Ordinatus-class weaponry is actually meant to be larger than Titan-class weaponry. An Ordinatus is a mega-weapon of unparalleled power, it's a starship gun on tracks.

Smaller Super-heavy tanks can have titan-class weaponry.

Yeah. The Ordinatus we have a model for, is an 'Ordinatus Minoris'; ie the smallest Ordinatus.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:

 Yaraton wrote:
Is Ordinates more like a Titan on tracks or more like a big gun that can also move a bit?

Ordinatus-class weaponry is actually meant to be larger than Titan-class weaponry. An Ordinatus is a mega-weapon of unparalleled power, it's a starship gun on tracks.

Smaller Super-heavy tanks can have titan-class weaponry.

Yeah. The Ordinatus we have a model for, is an 'Ordinatus Minoris'; ie the smallest Ordinatus.

This particular one, with the Bellicosa pattern Volcano Cannon is even the cheapest and easiest to build…

Also, the notion that anything that would take a demolisher cannon or railgun with Tank Hunters to even glance, and which has a further save on top of that, could be called "minor" is hilarious.

Ok, that is just taunting now. "You want the plasma destructor for the Warlord titan that was for sale at our event? How about we take the one existing arm weapon and put it on tracks instead!"

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:

 Yaraton wrote:
Is Ordinates more like a Titan on tracks or more like a big gun that can also move a bit?

Ordinatus-class weaponry is actually meant to be larger than Titan-class weaponry. An Ordinatus is a mega-weapon of unparalleled power, it's a starship gun on tracks.

Smaller Super-heavy tanks can have titan-class weaponry.

Yeah. The Ordinatus we have a model for, is an 'Ordinatus Minoris'; ie the smallest Ordinatus.

Yep the one in Helsreach mounts a Nova Cannon

 Mr Morden wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:

 Yaraton wrote:
Is Ordinates more like a Titan on tracks or more like a big gun that can also move a bit?

Ordinatus-class weaponry is actually meant to be larger than Titan-class weaponry. An Ordinatus is a mega-weapon of unparalleled power, it's a starship gun on tracks.

Smaller Super-heavy tanks can have titan-class weaponry.

Yeah. The Ordinatus we have a model for, is an 'Ordinatus Minoris'; ie the smallest Ordinatus.

Yep the one in Helsreach mounts a Nova Cannon

Which, for those of you who don't know is something they usually mount on their starships... which is pretty fething huge!

 angelofvengeance wrote:


Which, for those of you who don't know is something they usually mount on their starships... which is pretty fething huge!

The rules were pretty good in Epic. You'd charge it up each turn and then release a series of pulses or an all out blast (with a potential -9 save modifier!). I've seen one blast apart an unshielded Imperator Titan in one Game.

It wasn't the same Nova cannon - the naval weapon is about half a mile log and fires an explosive projectile at relativistic speed. The one on Ordinatus Armageddon was a large plasma weapon.

IIRC Ordinatus Oberon had a down-sized Nova Cannon, the same way that a Minigun and the GAU-8 are both Gatling guns. Nova Cannons fire shells that are accelerated to relativistic speeds.

Is there any word on when they'll be releasing the Mastadon or Stormbird? And is there any word on pricing?

Not that we know of unfortunately. Wouldn't have a clue on price for the Mastodon - probably in the 200+ pound range - but you can expect the Stormbird to be 500+ pounds given that it is larger than a Thunderhawk which costs closer to 400 pounds.

Caederes wrote:
Not that we know of unfortunately. Wouldn't have a clue on price for the Mastodon - probably in the 200+ pound range - but you can expect the Stormbird to be 500+ pounds given that it is larger than a Thunderhawk which costs closer to 400 pounds.

Very interesting... I now have the dilemma of choosing solely air transports or ground transports

From my experience with a Thunderhawk is you'll get far more table time with the mastodon, the TH is a bugger to transport and the large base is tricky to place on anything but a sparce table.

I agree with Daston, I hardly use my Thunderhawk compared to my Titans. However the Masterdon is going to be painful to move around on the table based on my experience with the Ordinatus as scenery gets in the way.

 gorgon wrote:
Word out of the Weekender was that it's 18″ S9 AP1 Heavy3, Melta.

So, with a pair of those that's six shots on some poor, suspecting Titan?

It's going to cost like thirty points a pop or something, right? :p

 Crazyterran wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
Word out of the Weekender was that it's 18″ S9 AP1 Heavy3, Melta.

So, with a pair of those that's six shots on some poor, suspecting Titan?

It's going to cost like thirty points a pop or something, right? :p

It's in Book 6, I think it is 20 pts but can't remember.

Looks like the Mechanicum Triaros Armoured Conveyer is No Longer Available.
Wonder if it just need a new mold or if its being replaced with something.

Mechanicum Thanatar-Calix Siege-Automata aswell,

Azeroth133 wrote:
Looks like the Mechanicum Triaros Armoured Conveyer is No Longer Available.
Wonder if it just need a new mold or if its being replaced with something.

Mechanicum Thanatar-Calix Siege-Automata aswell,

Usually means a new mould. Very unlikely that they'd pull those models.

 zedmeister wrote:

Azeroth133 wrote:
Looks like the Mechanicum Triaros Armoured Conveyer is No Longer Available.
Wonder if it just need a new mold or if its being replaced with something.

Mechanicum Thanatar-Calix Siege-Automata aswell,

Usually means a new mould. Very unlikely that they'd pull those models.

Or they're changing how they're packaged. Same thing happened with the Deimos Rhinos a little while back, they now come in a snazzy white FW box instead of the big bag o' doom.

shade1313 wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:

Azeroth133 wrote:
Looks like the Mechanicum Triaros Armoured Conveyer is No Longer Available.
Wonder if it just need a new mold or if its being replaced with something.

Mechanicum Thanatar-Calix Siege-Automata aswell,

Usually means a new mould. Very unlikely that they'd pull those models.

Or they're changing how they're packaged. Same thing happened with the Deimos Rhinos a little while back, they now come in a snazzy white FW box instead of the big bag o' doom.

I hope that becomes the norm. Those bags are the worst idea! Delicate, fragile fiddly resin pieces getting to bash together in a bag. Of course, a box is worse if it isn't in there with padding... so...

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

shade1313 wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:

Azeroth133 wrote:
Looks like the Mechanicum Triaros Armoured Conveyer is No Longer Available.
Wonder if it just need a new mold or if its being replaced with something.

Mechanicum Thanatar-Calix Siege-Automata aswell,

Usually means a new mould. Very unlikely that they'd pull those models.

Or they're changing how they're packaged. Same thing happened with the Deimos Rhinos a little while back, they now come in a snazzy white FW box instead of the big bag o' doom.

I hope that becomes the norm. Those bags are the worst idea! Delicate, fragile fiddly resin pieces getting to bash together in a bag. Of course, a box is worse if it isn't in there with padding... so...

More importantly the instructions that come in the new packaging are actual instructions, with exploded 3D diagrams and highlighted glue surfaces and everything, compared to the baggie version which is a leaflet with a parts list and a single grainy picture.

That seems to be for the newer, digitally-sculpted models; because it's easy to use the digital images themselves to generate the instructions.

Still, could be worse; the Horus Heresy Character Series models have a link to an online PDF of the instructions - which no longer works since the website revamp. Assembling Draykavac was a massive pain in the derriere.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
That seems to be for the newer, digitally-sculpted models; because it's easy to use the digital images themselves to generate the instructions.

Still, could be worse; the Horus Heresy Character Series models have a link to an online PDF of the instructions - which no longer works since the website revamp. Assembling Draykavac was a massive pain in the derriere.

Great to hear. I have Dray on my table for an upcoming project. :(

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
IIRC Ordinatus Oberon had a down-sized Nova Cannon, the same way that a Minigun and the GAU-8 are both Gatling guns. Nova Cannons fire shells that are accelerated to relativistic speeds.

Which one's Oberon? I was referring to one of the three original Ordinatus with Epic-scale miniatures and rules. Or is Lexicanum in error and the one used at Helsreach in the third war was different to the one used in the first war?

Never rated the thanatar calix anyway :p
I prefer my regular one.

Waiting to see the cc variants of the thallax now.