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When Deep Striking a unit and placing the models around the initial one in circles, if one of those models would end up in impassable terrain, or off the board, does that trigger a mishap, or can you "skip" that spot and keep placing models? For example, say you end up with the initial model right up against the board edge, and the unit is, say, 20 models (or in any case large enough so that a full circle must be completed), is that a mishap, or can you place them in a semi-circle against the board edge?

The rules seem pretty clear that it would be a mishap, but I was watching a battle report yesterday and that happened (initial model scattered right up to the board's edge), and the player placed the rest of the models in a semi-circle right up against the board edge. No mention was made of a house rule or anything.

If there isnt enouph models to make a full circle then yes its ok but if you cant complete a full circle without going off the board/impassible then nope mishap it is

As above

You must place all the models, and must complete a circle before moving on. If you cannot place all models due to impassable terrain or scattiner off the table, or models, etc, then you mishap.

That's what I thought... guess the guys in the battle report either did it wrong, or houseruled it w/o saying so. Thanks!

Since we are talking about DS... the circles must be as close as possible to the first model? or just a circle in unit coherency? (say a space of 1.5" between the circle of units and the centre model)

Wallur wrote:
Since we are talking about DS... the circles must be as close as possible to the first model? or just a circle in unit coherency? (say a space of 1.5" between the circle of units and the centre model)

Clearly answered in the Deep Strike rules (second bullet point under Arriving by Deep Strike) where they say "... Models must be placed in base contact with the first model and begin to form a circle around it..."

Bases must touch the first model until there's no more room to do so. Then bases must touch models in the first circle, until theres no more room. Rinse and repeat. The first model will always be in the rough center.

However, unlike 4th edition, from i think 5th edition onwards you do not have to have the outer-most models touching each other, as well as the model on the inner ring. This means for example you could ds a unit of 3 models, with all 3 in a line - one to the left and one to the right of the first model, neither model touching eachother.

They are right, I thought that was the way, but last match a friend didn't do it that way... thank you

Wait.... if you DS right next to the tables edge and the one unit that would complete the circle would technically be off the tables edge, wouldn't that destroy the unit, not just cause mishap?

DS off the table is Mishap, not destroyed, you have to roll mishap and may en up destroyed

I gotcha.

 Snoopdeville3 wrote:
Wait.... if you DS right next to the tables edge and the one unit that would complete the circle would technically be off the tables edge, wouldn't that destroy the unit, not just cause mishap?

This would apply to a squad jumping out of a moving Stormraven using the skies of fury rule but in most cases it's just a mishap.