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Doesn't the sprue show 2 charcters tho? I get the feeling this is like the rumours for the aos box set which turned out like none of the rumours.

spect_spidey wrote:
The rumor poster needs to go back to math class. They say 44 minis in the set but then state it has the following:

Mk IV Maximus Marine Squad (x10)
Mk IV Maximus Marine Squad (x10)
Mk IV Maximus Marine Squad (x10)

Cataphractii Terminator Praetor
Cataphractii Terminator Squad (x5)
Cataphractii Terminator Squad (x5)

Contemptor Dreadnought
Unknown model (conflicting reports say a “counter to Contemptor”, or simply a 2nd Contemptor)

By my count that is 42 and one unknown so they are off.

Well that's 43, 30 normal marines, 10 Termies, a praetor, a Contemptor, and an unspecified other model; plus there was a non Termie Praetor mentioned (it says 'artificer armoured centurion' at the top next to the '44 miniatures'), which is 44.

 edlowe wrote:
Doesn't the sprue show 2 charcters tho? I get the feeling this is like the rumours for the aos box set which turned out like none of the rumours.

Yep - it's guesswork pure and simple

That's more than enough models to start a legitimate Heresy list. eBay for Contemptor arm guns to do up some Mortis Dreads and some classic 2nd Edition Rhinos and such. I might be spending a lot of friggin money soon...

I'll buy at least 2 boxes if true.

If they are all mk IV that kills it for me. :(

 SickSix wrote:
If they are all mk IV that kills it for me. :(

At the beginning of the Horus Heresy most Legions had MK4 AFAIK, i hope that if this is the first in the series and that the next box it will be MK5.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
If they are all mk IV that kills it for me. :(

At the beginning of the Horus Heresy most Legions had MK4 AFAIK, i hope that if this is the first in the series and that the next box it will be MK5.

I think MKIV armor is the least interesting to paint. Just personal opinion ...

If the leaked sprues are to be believed, those are most certainly Mk4 legs (just look on p1 pics, last 3 sprues).

There are different styles of Mk4, remember. The box looks like it Maximus with studs and without, Corvus, and also a Corvus with studs.

There are also lipped Mk4 shoulder pads, which are my favorite shoulders (though sadly plain/decal shoulders). And the Cataphractii termintators are models I have always wanted to own. I would so love a TL autocannon. And remember, the standard Cataphractii have access to combi's, which would rock. And Edward Scissorhands claws.

 Talys wrote:
If the leaked sprues are to be believed, those are most certainly Mk4 legs (just look on p1 pics, last 3 sprues).

There are different styles of Mk4, remember. The box looks like it Maximus with studs and without, Corvus, and also a Corvus with studs.

There are also lipped Mk4 shoulder pads, which are my favorite shoulders (though sadly plain/decal shoulders). And the Cataphractii termintators are models I have always wanted to own. I would so love a TL autocannon. And remember, the standard Cataphractii have access to combi's, which would rock. And Edward Scissorhands claws.

Maximus is MkIV armour. Corvus is MkVI armour.

They already did a Mk. VI plastic box.

Just back in the ‘80s

 Jehan-reznor wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
If they are all mk IV that kills it for me. :(

At the beginning of the Horus Heresy most Legions had MK4 AFAIK, i hope that if this is the first in the series and that the next box it will be MK5.

Mk IV was the newest iteration of armor produced, but all the legions had not transitioned over to them by the time war broke out. It was part of Horus plan to limit supplies of these to the loyalists so they would not be as well equipped. In the black library books there's mention that the Mk IV isn't as good as the older Mks, just easier to produce in the numbers needed for the crusade. Legions like the Iron Hands didn't receive any when the war broke out, they had been "shorted" supplies of ammunition and armor during the crusade and were in major need of re-equipping when they went to Istivan. I believe the white scars and the salamanders were in similar situations were as the Word Bearers and Sons of Horus were fully equipped with all the latest (if not greatest) of gear. the imperial Fists raid Mars and abscond with hundreds of thousands of Mk IV suits in one of the books, but hadn't received any prior to that.

If it's not MKIII, it's CRAP!

Hopefully, we'll get some crappy phone pictures soon of the actual box and know what's up.

 kronk wrote:
If it's not MKIII, it's CRAP!

Hopefully, we'll get some crappy phone pictures soon of the actual box and know what's up.

With extra earthquake shakiness.

 Theophony wrote:
It was part of Horus plan to limit supplies of these to the loyalists so they would not be as well equipped. In the black library books there's mention that the Mk IV isn't as good as the older Mks, just easier to produce in the numbers needed for the crusade.

I must have missed that. Every other reference I've read says that Mk.IV is more advanced and efficient than earlier marks. Mk.IV laid the foundation for the "modern" marks like VI, VII and VIII.

Likely stock, unbadged troops, with two Limited Edition characters that *are* Legion-badged. That'd be my guess. Plays to rumours and recent box patterns (I know, GeeDub and patterns. etc. etc.)

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/637550.page

I'm taking with a huge load of salt, either that or preparing to drop roughly $200 on this kit, that's just a huge number of models for it to be priced like other sets. I was really hoping for the board game set though, would have made a good path to get people into zones mortalis.

 gorgon wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
It was part of Horus plan to limit supplies of these to the loyalists so they would not be as well equipped. In the black library books there's mention that the Mk IV isn't as good as the older Mks, just easier to produce in the numbers needed for the crusade.

I must have missed that. Every other reference I've read says that Mk.IV is more advanced and efficient than earlier marks. Mk.IV laid the foundation for the "modern" marks like VI, VII and VIII.

Agreed, in fact IIRC Mk IV is superior to modern marks, but precisely because it wasn't easy to produce, later versions were somewhat simplified.

But we digress, and as an EC collector, and a fan of the look, I'm all for it being Mk IV!

Yeah, my nascent WE army uses Mk.IV too.

I've always liked the WE pre-Heresy color scheme, but it was the artwork of a WE in Mk.IV at the beginning of the WE section in Betrayal that settled me on that mark. In that simple white and blue scheme, Mk.IV has an unadorned, basic look that I think makes sense for WE.

But then paint it up in EC colors, and the more elegant design features (compared to Mk.II and III) really come through. I think it's a great suit and I'm glad it'll be in the boxed set, even if I have my concerns about how the plastics will scale.

Just been told oct 11th at my local store. £75. No word on content but told it was very good value for gw.

 edlowe wrote:
Just been told oct 11th at my local store. £75. No word on content but told it was very good value for gw.

Either your local store is lying about the price, this is an amazing value, or the rumors are way off, imo.

 Brennonjw wrote:

 edlowe wrote:
Just been told oct 11th at my local store. £75. No word on content but told it was very good value for gw.

Either your local store is lying about the price, this is an amazing value, or the rumors are way off, imo.

Or some combination of those.

 Brennonjw wrote:

 edlowe wrote:
Just been told oct 11th at my local store. £75. No word on content but told it was very good value for gw.

Either your local store is lying about the price, this is an amazing value, or the rumors are way off, imo.

That's AoS / DV price, no? I'm not really familiar with GBP prices, but AoS is $150 Canadian, and GBP to CAD is 2:1, roughly. It would be a great price to get people into HH, and "starter" boxes should not be much more. It's a price point issue.

It wouldn't really be any better or worse value than Space Hulk, Dark Vengeance, or Age of Sigmar starter, I think - they're not snapfits, butt neither was Stormclaw or Deathstorm (also in the same value range).

If that price is true, that would be quite awesome.

 Talys wrote:

 Brennonjw wrote:

 edlowe wrote:
Just been told oct 11th at my local store. £75. No word on content but told it was very good value for gw.

Either your local store is lying about the price, this is an amazing value, or the rumors are way off, imo.

That's AoS / DV price, no? I'm not really familiar with GBP prices, but AoS is $150 Canadian, and GBP to CAD is 2:1, roughly. It would be a great price to get people into HH, and "starter" boxes should not be much more. It's a price point issue.

It wouldn't really be any better or worse value than Space Hulk, Dark Vengeance, or Age of Sigmar starter, I think - they're not snapfits, butt neither was Stormclaw or Deathstorm (also in the same value range).

Stormclaw and Deathstorm are outliers. They used sprues from existing boxes and a single character sprue that was separate.

October 11th is a sunday, I thought all releases were done on Saturdays these days?

Could just be a mistype.

Or feth it, maybe it's the 10th of November, we all know some people can't get their fething dates right like the rest of the world.

10th Nov is a Tues, which makes less sense if anything.