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Warhams-77 wrote:
The box artwork - so damn good, Epic / Space Marine 2nd Ed vibe

So from what I can see of the tiles, I guess the board game has an Underworld War theme?

 Alex C wrote:
Kinda wish I'd kept my 2nd edition Space Marine vehicles now they're being branded as "Horus Heresy" and sold for rediculous amounts from FW...

The forgeworld ones are admittedly much nicer (and I say that as someone who kept my original marine army with all the old style stuff).

@ cover

@Gorgon, yes underground or indoor warfare.

Still curious about final price. Otherwise, might be all over this.

 warboss wrote:

 Alex C wrote:
Kinda wish I'd kept my 2nd edition Space Marine vehicles now they're being branded as "Horus Heresy" and sold for rediculous amounts from FW...

The forgeworld ones are admittedly much nicer (and I say that as someone who kept my original marine army with all the old style stuff).

Yeah, I have two GW Deimos rhinos, and they are miles away better kits than the old MKI jobs.

Still, I think if you painted an older kit to match, and applied some brass eatchings or other iconography, I think they'd look fine.

And the MKI predators, Vindicators, and Whirlwinds were very nice kits, although again pale in comparison.

I started losing interest when the shoddy pics got posted but all the new info is pulling me back in.

People are saying one of the terminators is the captain, then what is the guy with the crest? Is that what a HH era sgt usually has or is it an ultramarine thing? Because that miniature is the one I like the most so far.

 jreilly89 wrote:
Still curious about final price. Otherwise, might be all over this.

$150 is the reliable rumor.

Do we know how much is in the box?

I might redo my alpha legions zones army in plastic depending on whats in it.

 Desubot wrote:
Do we know how much is in the box?

I might redo my alpha legions zones army in plastic depending on whats in it.

It's been posted repeatedly, yes. Check out the first post in this thread.

 Rotgut wrote:
I started losing interest when the shoddy pics got posted but all the new info is pulling me back in.

People are saying one of the terminators is the captain, then what is the guy with the crest? Is that what a HH era sgt usually has or is it an ultramarine thing? Because that miniature is the one I like the most so far.

The crested fella is the Sergeant, the one with the mini-banner on his pack is a Vexilla and the final upgrade, that I can't see, is a Nuncio Vox.

It's got a lot of spehss muhreens for 4 very small board sections. Bang go my Tyranid Attack / Space Hulk-esque hopes.

 kronk wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
Do we know how much is in the box?

I might redo my alpha legions zones army in plastic depending on whats in it.

It's been posted repeatedly, yes. Check out the first post in this thread.

oh slick so it was.


Thanks

Yeah looks like a good point to restart in plastic

 Rotgut wrote:


People are saying one of the terminators is the captain, then what is the guy with the crest? Is that what a HH era sgt usually has or is it an ultramarine thing? Because that miniature is the one I like the most so far.

The character with the crest is the Centurion, a mid-rank commander who in the FW rules can take various Consul roles like Chaplain, Delegatus ect. There is also a crested helmet on the sprue for the tactical marines, used for Sergeants.

 Desubot wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
Do we know how much is in the box?

I might redo my alpha legions zones army in plastic depending on whats in it.

It's been posted repeatedly, yes. Check out the first post in this thread.

oh slick so it was.


Thanks

Yeah looks like a good point to restart in plastic

I was debating this myself, it may be a good start to a new legion as well.

I'm leaning heavily towards a small, foot-slogging World Eater's army with this set.

However, I'd add the terminators to my existing Imperial Fists to ride with Dorn, when he is released.

I was also heavily debating Imp Fists, as well as Ultras. I really like the Imp Fist tactics and characters.

The Bolter stuff just seems like it would be a lot of fun and put more shots on enemies. Also the NOPE we are going the full 6!

The characters and dread look boring as hell. I'll likely keep the dread never the less but those characters will be sold straight off

 Motograter wrote:
The characters and dread look boring as hell. I'll likely keep the dread never the less but those characters will be sold straight off

If you don't want to keep the dread *Leaves business card*

I foresee an HH Box Set trade thread in the not-so-distant future.

Now to decide if my Word Bearers need more reinforcement or an allied Legion or even a loyalist Legion.

 Thanatos73 wrote:
Now to decide if my Word Bearers need more reinforcement or an allied Legion or even a loyalist Legion.

A real gamer would do all 3.

Just saying!

Olis on B&C - nice mini

For those who actually play the FW HH game, how does this box look? Do standard marines and terminators play a large role in your list building? Or do the things in this box take a back seat to units like Phoenix Terminators and the Palatine Blade squads?

Ooh, shiny! Need more pics of built stuff!

@Nvs: I've no real experience playing HH, but there's going to be mileage in at least one set here. You'll need at least 2 basic Tactical Squads of 10-20 men if you're not running a Rite of War, and even then, the minis can cover all sorts of units (basic Tactical squads, Veteran Tactical Squads, Support Tactical Squads, maybe even Seeker Squads with a weapon swap) so you'll get use out of them. The Legion-specific units are usually pretty points-intensive, so starting out the Cataphractii are good (and from what I've read, more survivable in 30k as there's a comparative lack of AP2 stuff compared to 40k). Any why wouldn't you want a Contemptor?

Warhams-77 wrote:
Olis on B&C - nice mini

Booo, work blocked :(

Nvs wrote:
For those who actually play the FW HH game, how does this box look? Do standard marines and terminators play a large role in your list building? Or do the things in this box take a back seat to units like Phoenix Terminators and the Palatine Blade squads?

From the basic marines:
Tactical marines - yes. 10-20 man units all with boltguns forms the majority of compulsory troops.
Also, veteran tactical squads (for pride of the legion) - 5 to 10 man units - I find are overpriced for what are, essentially, marine stats. Can be given veteran skills (Tank Hunters, Snipers, etc)
Seekers 5-10 man units - nice. You get combi-weapon's in the sprue which are a nice addition (and the entire squad can be equipped with them)
Tactical support squads - 5-10 man - excellent unit. Can't be taken as compulsory troops, but they all come with the same special weapon. Pick from Flamer, Meltagun, Volkite Charger (yes!), Volkite Caliver (lethal), plasma guns (Excellent)

Contemptors are generally, in my view, overpriced and underpowered a little. Contemptor mortis, not so much.
Cataphracts are good, but their use depends on the list you're building and your legion of choice.

 zedmeister wrote:

Nvs wrote:
For those who actually play the FW HH game, how does this box look? Do standard marines and terminators play a large role in your list building? Or do the things in this box take a back seat to units like Phoenix Terminators and the Palatine Blade squads?

From the basic marines:
Tactical marines - yes. 10-20 man units all with boltguns forms the majority of compulsory troops.
Also, veteran tactical squads (for pride of the legion) - 5 to 10 man units - I find are overpriced for what are, essentially, marine stats. Can be given veteran skills (Tank Hunters, Snipers, etc)
Seekers 5-10 man units - nice. You get combi-weapon's in the sprue which are a nice addition
Tactical support squads - 5-10 man - excellent unit. Can't be taken as compulsory troops, but they all come with the same special weapon. Pick from Flamer, Meltagun, Volkite Charger (yes!), Volkite Caliver (lethal), plasma guns (Excellent)

Contemptors are generally, in my view, overpriced and underpowered a little. Contemptor mortis, not so much.
Cataphracts are good, but their use depends on the list you're building and your legion of choice.

Cool, thanks for the overview. And regardless of legion, they all are using this layout for the bulk of their armies and then a few thematic units more inline with the legion's backstory make up the rest?

I've been holding off on any FW HH stuff till Thousand Sons are available, but I've been dying to get started and this box (or 2) seems like a good start so long as the models are useful

Do the termies only come with heavy flamer? No reaper autocannon or plasma blaster?