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Rumors of a Tzeentch Deamonkin book have floating around the interwebs for months now, the AoS realease window is coming to a close and we still don't have a tentative release date for the Tzeentchkin book...

Now the rumor is that Tau is set to be released next, Standard CSMs haven't gotten a book since 6th edition and I think that we can all agree that is was less than impressive. GW has a golden opportunity to make CSMs viable again with this new codex, but for some unknown reason, they are holding onto it like a fat kid holding a cupcake!!

And.........Discuss...

 sub-zero wrote:
Rumors of a Tzeentch Deamonkin book have floating around the interwebs for months now, the AoS realease window is coming to a close and we still don't have a tentative release date for the Tzeentchkin book...

Now the rumor is that Tau is set to be released next, Standard CSMs haven't gotten a book since 6th edition and I think that we can all agree that is was less than impressive. GW has a golden opportunity to make CSMs viable again with this new codex, but for some unknown reason, they are holding onto it like a fat kid holding a cupcake!!

And.........Discuss...

Because... release schedules. Realistically, there are probably dozens and dozens of data points that go into deciding which models to release when. Many models sit on the shelves for years before being released. If you don't believe me, look at the copyright date on the next 'brand new sprue' you see. Some of the things being released today are copyright 2013. I'm pretty sure all the newest Age of Sigmar stuff was copy-written in 2014 at least.

 sub-zero wrote:
Rumors of a Tzeentch Deamonkin book have floating around the interwebs for months now, the AoS realease window is coming to a close and we still don't have a tentative release date for the Tzeentchkin book...

Now the rumor is that Tau is set to be released next, Standard CSMs haven't gotten a book since 6th edition and I think that we can all agree that is was less than impressive. GW has a golden opportunity to make CSMs viable again with this new codex, but for some unknown reason, they are holding onto it like a fat kid holding a cupcake!!

And.........Discuss...

And rumors of all-plastic Sisters have been around for over a decade.

Rumors =/= fact. There may, indeed, be nothing to the rumors but wishful thinking, and Tzeentch Daemonkin may never appear. As they say, hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

You're reading too much BoLS/Natfka.

To my knowledge, none of the (even semi-)reliable rumour-people (Harry & Hastings, Sad Panda, Lords of Wargaming, Darnok) ever even mentioned Tzeentch Daemonkin or Chaos Space Marines.

Lords of Wargaming rumours on Tau date back to early June, and will probably be fairly accurate.

https://www.facebook.com/Lordsofwargaming/posts/753940768066037


The problem with "real rumours" is, there's only one every month or two, if you're lucky. There's a lot of "creative writing" by sites like BoLS/Natfka for their daily clicks that drown it out and, ultimately, hurt the hobby by raising false hopes among people and passionate hobbyists, solely on stuff they made up for that extra advertising-buck.

The whole Daemonkin rumor came from a throwaway sentence from WD when DA were released simply stating that "The Tzeentch forces stand no chance". Even if this was a remotely credible rumor I don't see how adding another crappy daemonkin book does anything to help CSM as a whole.

Agreed, I do not think four second-rate Daemonkin books are what the game needs. Therefore, this is exactly what Games Workshop will do!

Before it was the Tzeentch Daemonkin rumor, it was the Alpha Legion rumor. Before that, it was the rumor of a second CSM Codex for Legions.

A rumor is a rumor, it does not mean it's going to come true. Don't hold your breath on anything that expands the CSM range.

Most of GW stock is held by companies that handle investments for large groups of pensioners. If someone noticed that devil worshipping space renegades were driving sales through the roof, it could have consequences.

I would bet they won't touch their major seller until their whole CEO change thing is done with. They are playing with AoS to fill their time table and because it's not hurting them atm (Fantasy sales were nonexistent anyways, anything AoS does is a plus). I think 40k will come back online once their corporate stuff balance out. Nobody wants to be pushing on the big project when you don't even know if the new boss is prone to pushing the abort button just because. When things calm down, the new CEO will speak his piece and 40k will continue from that point on. I wouldn't be surprised if he decides that "lately 40k has gotten too powerful gamewise so let's tone down the new ones", effectively giving us crappy codexes for the rest of the armies and leaving us frustrated for the next 2-3 years once again.

Thousands Sons 30K comes hopefully in next year. It would be good it GW would use rules from TS 30K in Tzeentch Daemonkin.

topaxygouroun i wrote:
I would bet they won't touch their major seller until their whole CEO change thing is done with. They are playing with AoS to fill their time table and because it's not hurting them atm (Fantasy sales were nonexistent anyways, anything AoS does is a plus). I think 40k will come back online once their corporate stuff balance out. Nobody wants to be pushing on the big project when you don't even know if the new boss is prone to pushing the abort button just because. When things calm down, the new CEO will speak his piece and 40k will continue from that point on. I wouldn't be surprised if he decides that "lately 40k has gotten too powerful gamewise so let's tone down the new ones", effectively giving us crappy codexes for the rest of the armies and leaving us frustrated for the next 2-3 years once again.

So you're assuming the new CEO is more than just a Kirby puppet then.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

topaxygouroun i wrote:
I would bet they won't touch their major seller until their whole CEO change thing is done with. They are playing with AoS to fill their time table and because it's not hurting them atm (Fantasy sales were nonexistent anyways, anything AoS does is a plus). I think 40k will come back online once their corporate stuff balance out. Nobody wants to be pushing on the big project when you don't even know if the new boss is prone to pushing the abort button just because. When things calm down, the new CEO will speak his piece and 40k will continue from that point on. I wouldn't be surprised if he decides that "lately 40k has gotten too powerful gamewise so let's tone down the new ones", effectively giving us crappy codexes for the rest of the armies and leaving us frustrated for the next 2-3 years once again.

So you're assuming the new CEO is more than just a Kirby puppet then.

You've hit the nail directly on the head! All the evidence points to this.

Largest company in its field is struggling with some poor image and constantly falling sales numbers. Seemingly intent on propping up profits with cuts to the service and increasing prices to compensate for falling sales. The CEO 'steps down', clearly the time is ripe for a change of direction. In fact many would suggest that recent evidence demands a change of direction. So when a new CEO is chosen who is it? An up and coming younger executive blazing a trail in a similar industry? No. A proven leader of a smaller games firm who has shown a clear ability to drive up profits and sales? No. A headhunted turnaround expert from a hard-nosed industry? No. They pick internally and one of their own effectively discredited management team, someone who is clearly very closely tied to the existing management and strategy. You are not going to get a change of direction from someone who is either a) an acolyte of TK who is steeped in his approach, or b) a direct puppet as TK protects his interests by 'retiring' but placing a yes-man in the chair to ensure that his policies continue. Nothing that has happened since TK went implies any change of direction.