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I will be fair, I do not own a hardcopy of my codex. My codex is on my laptop. And refuse to drag £1200 plus software and upgrades of PC to my local club each Sunday.
I have been nagged to get a hard copy of my codex and I will.
Once GW release the next version and only if it is a vast improvement on the nerfdex that we got lumped with this time round.

To me the worst player is the munchkin, that being said I'm guilty sometimes of being the mooch. There have been times that I've forgotten my tape measure or dice and I've borrowed my opponents, so now I make an effort to remember to bring everything with me

Experiment 626 wrote:
The crusty chain smoker who's never been introduced to soap & water.

I can take incredible BO - 18+ years of competitive girls hockey plus nearly a decade of on-ice officiating has all but rendered me immune to sweat stink... But that dude who looks like he's washed his clothes maybe once a month, while smoking a pack a day minimum? Good night, I'm floored.
Even worse when you're trapped with such an individual in a small gaming room, during the dead of winter and the LGS has jacked the heat up because it's -30 outside.

And it seems to only take about 5 minutes for that gak to leach into your own clothes, so you get the choke on the stench all the way home, and then end up having to throw on an emergency load of laundry or risk that smell leaching into the hamper for the next week.

I played highschool football and spent 4 years in the marines, including a deployment to afghanistan, and ive never smelled as bad as the 2 years i played hockey when i was little.

 scommy wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Did we already get Little Kids on the list? I occasionally play my friends brother, who plays "Lets put a cryptek in every 20 man blob of warriors" necrons. If he ever starts to lose, he will lose his mind and break down in front of everyone.

Hilariously this happened one time because his partner who was playing DA had a "fool proof" plan to charge his Tac squad into the kid's lord on a chariot to capture an objective... and this is somehow possible in the rules.

hehe yeah it can be kinda awkward yet somehow funny when a kid has a meltdown.

Curiously it can be rewarding to let a kid win tho. Especially if you talk yourself up before and during the game "I am the best player in this whole city". Then as things go pear shaped and you start losing you can make all sorts of ridiculous excuses "oh this dice is faulty". Even more fun you can help them make correct decisions by pleading with them to do the opposite "please don't shoot my warlord, he is a nice guy", or "you don't need that objective, you can ignore that tactical card its wrong, just go into that corner its safer".

I write fluffy lists which are no where near tournament worthy and i still win at kill points. His older brother does the most tactically stupid things just to prove his point that the kid cant play. Literally drives his entire tau force up to the necron battle line, disembarks and proceeds to dakka spam from two inches away. The kid loses his cool and quits... Everyone else is sitting there like, "Calm down dude, just charge him next turn" so the kid comes back, shoots back instead of charging then breaks down when his wraiths get mulched by the massed overwatch of 200+ shots

 master of ordinance wrote:
I will be fair, I do not own a hardcopy of my codex. My codex is on my laptop. And refuse to drag £1200 plus software and upgrades of PC to my local club each Sunday.
I have been nagged to get a hard copy of my codex and I will.
Once GW release the next version and only if it is a vast improvement on the nerfdex that we got lumped with this time round.

Then put said PDFs on your phone/tablet. There is really no excuse in this day and age for not having a copy of your codex to hand in whatever form.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
I will be fair, I do not own a hardcopy of my codex. My codex is on my laptop. And refuse to drag £1200 plus software and upgrades of PC to my local club each Sunday.
I have been nagged to get a hard copy of my codex and I will.
Once GW release the next version and only if it is a vast improvement on the nerfdex that we got lumped with this time round.

Then put said PDFs on your phone/tablet. There is really no excuse in this day and age for not having a copy of your codex to hand in whatever form.

My phone is a good old Nokia brick.
There are reasons why I do not upgrade to a less indestructible phone

Tbh the guy who constantly misinterprets the rules (or gets them plain wrong, kicks off when I give my opponent kills just to speed things up (as an ally), can't build a list to save his life seeing he relies 100% on his lord of war....

Then proceeds to complain how my chimera's get to fire out of access points and the lasgun array... or the number of vehicles I field as guard.... nothing game breaking... but he still does! Heaven forbid when I finally have my wyverns finished!

 Baldeagle91 wrote:
Tbh the guy who constantly misinterprets the rules (or gets them plain wrong, kicks off when I give my opponent kills just to speed things up (as an ally), can't build a list to save his life seeing he relies 100% on his lord of war....

Then proceeds to complain how my chimera's get to fire out of access points and the lasgun array... or the number of vehicles I field as guard.... nothing game breaking... but he still does! Heaven forbid when I finally have my wyverns finished!

wyvern squadrons... new definition of GEQ killer.

Unless you happen to be a really good sport, wyverns will bring rage to the table

 Gunnvulcan wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:
The crusty chain smoker who's never been introduced to soap & water.

I can take incredible BO - 18+ years of competitive girls hockey plus nearly a decade of on-ice officiating has all but rendered me immune to sweat stink... But that dude who looks like he's washed his clothes maybe once a month, while smoking a pack a day minimum? Good night, I'm floored.
Even worse when you're trapped with such an individual in a small gaming room, during the dead of winter and the LGS has jacked the heat up because it's -30 outside.

And it seems to only take about 5 minutes for that gak to leach into your own clothes, so you get the choke on the stench all the way home, and then end up having to throw on an emergency load of laundry or risk that smell leaching into the hamper for the next week.

I played highschool football and spent 4 years in the marines, including a deployment to afghanistan, and ive never smelled as bad as the 2 years i played hockey when i was little.

I once had the misfortune of playing on a team with a girl who hadn't even aired out, (never mind washed!), her equipment in over 3 years...

It wasn't that she was a even really a good goalie or anything, but rather the sheer amount of body stink encrusted into her gear became a wave of physical decay that would stop absolutely everything dead in its tracks...

Going near her was pretty much akin to summoning the Plague Father himself. I don't think my sense of smell ever truly recovered from that winter of woe.

TBH I am one of the guys who doesn't bring his rules/dex to the table. I have "field notes" that I bring. I print or copy critical pages of rules or datasheets and hand written notes of pertinent special rules.

I am also the guy who has been playing since second edition and has gotten fed up with paying $50 every other year for a codex that is half full of advertisement to buy overpriced models, a third full of the same fluff that I have seen before, and only a sixth full of useful rules. On top of that, I have more than one faction. Even more, I need the rest just to keep my opponents honest.

WaughGoff wrote:
TBH I am one of the guys who doesn't bring his rules/dex to the table. I have "field notes" that I bring. I print or copy critical pages of rules or datasheets and hand written notes of pertinent special rules.

I am also the guy who has been playing since second edition and has gotten fed up with paying $50 every other year for a codex that is half full of advertisement to buy overpriced models, a third full of the same fluff that I have seen before, and only a sixth full of useful rules. On top of that, I have more than one faction. Even more, I need the rest just to keep my opponents honest.

i tend to believe people even without codices unless they come up with some really BS stuff

oooo.... I'm not that guy... I only play orks... Until they sucked.... then tau.... Then marines..... Then eldar..... Damnit!!!!

As just an occasional gamer but a big hobbyist, I've given up buying codices long time ago. I loathe GW policy on book pricing and publishing, and boycotting book sales is the only thing I can do to change it.

I don't like players who are WAAC or who get antisocial just because they can't win. I think I'll never forget my first game in a club, when that guy got angry because he failed to table me
(he still won by far). Way to introduce yourself and the community to a newbie.

Let me start by saying that I'm a professional rules lawyer, if a rules lawyer is someone who pretty much demands that we follow the rules. I am absolutely fine with playing using house rules, so long as those house rules are set up prior to the commencement of the game. Otherwise, I want to follow the rules in the book in order to keep everyone honest. By following RAW, whether it's house rule RAW or RAW from a rulebook, we don't have to argue about interpretations, feelings, or other such subjective things. If that makes me a rules lawyer, then it is what it is.

Insofar as people not bringing their codex, I find this pretty inexcusable, but to avoid arguments I now just bring a full copy of every codex in existence on a thumb drive that I can pop into my laptop if I run into one of those guys who doesn't bring their book.


All of that said, I feel sorry for most of you guys in this thread. This thread seems full of people haters. Obviously no one likes cheaters. But aside from that, a lot of people seem to be annoyed with people about nothing. Non-Firm handshakes being the worst? People who "Claim" to have health problems and ask you to give them a hand(but who you assume are just overweight, and not overweight DUE to their health problems)? Give me an effing break! Maybe that "middle aged guy" has carpel tunnel and doesn't have the strength in his hand to get into a competitive palm crushing contest after the game. And fat-shaming your opponents doesn't make you sound like someone who'd be a blast to hang out with. As an able-bodied man, if my opponent needs some physical help with something that I am more than capable of, while they claim not to be, I will be HAPPY to help them. I don't CARE if they're legitimitely handicapped. I'm still helping someone out. Why does someone have to be handicapped due to no fault of their own to get help from a peer? I LIKE people. I ENJOY playing the game, even if I DO follow the rules at all costs. Get a life and learn some manners. You will enjoy life more overall.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

Outside Context Problems aside, I'd probably have to say that the least fun kind of gamer to play against is the one who decides you have to be tfg just because you beat them...

Aside from cheaters, who no one likes, this is specifically my only pet peeve, which unfortunately permeates this hobby. I call them COMPLAINERS. They're the people who instead of searching for tactics and using the internet to come up with new and interesting ideas on how to use their armies, they scour the internet for threads like this, so that they can have a vast array of derrogatory categories with which to label players that beat them.

As for all the players who claim that 40k rules suck, and therefore you shouldn't be in 40k for the game, kiss off. If you believe the rules are THAT bad, then you shouldn't be playing games using those rules at all either. If you're in it for socializing, modeling, and painting, then play with your toys without rules, or make up your own like we did with little green army men when we were kids. Don't try to claim superiority over people who follow the bloody rules by claiming that you're better than the rules. Again, get a life and learn some manners. You will enjoy life more overall.

And finally, @Jimsolo: I normally find myself in agreement with you, and think that you and I would generally get along well as gaming buddies due to common interests and thought processes. That said, I may fit into your Encyclopedia Brown category, as I am opinionated and have a vast amount of knowledge across a wide range of subjects, with only a couple years of University attendence and a 142 IQ. I am also extremely against group think, so have differing opinions from the majority. Due to my tendency to obsess over things that pique my interests, I do vast amounts of research on topics to the detriment of my social life when I get interested in such a topic. This often comes across to less knowledgeable people as being a "know it all" because those people couldn't be bothered to do the research to fact check you to see that you're right, because it's not normal for people to be willing to do that much footwork to learn about something that isn't that important to them. I understand this, and am not normal. Normal people often can't imagine the possibility that abnormal people spend an amount of time learning things that they would balk at. I have MANY days where I spend 16 hours reading about whatever topics strike my fancy that day(I own my own business and have no kids, so can do what I want.) Based on the types of thoughts I've seen you post in the past, and the extent to which you post on forums like here and TDC bordering on the obsessive, I'd have imagined that you'd recognise the possibility of being percieved as an "Encyclopedia Brown" yourself. Though, I could be entirely incorrect in my estimation of you, and your extreme amounts of research and knowledge could be limited more to specific interests like 40k rather than a broad range of topics.

Guy above^ tl:dr

I myself constantly fight tendencies of the "encyclopedia brown" (except i actually have a degree and know some stuff), the "powergamer" (i get way too competitive at times, especially considering how bad i am :p), and the "chatterbox" (i tend to talk profusely when energized or anxious and sadly most FLGS frown upon in store drinking).

So before i say anyone else is the worst i will say, that what i become when at my worst is the worst and i work to improve myself because of that.

Beyond that, the hardest person for me to deal with is the "hoveree" (sorry cant come up with a better name). It is great to have people playing watchhammer at your table, but i cant stand it when their idea of watchhammer involves their warm breath against the back of my neck and ear.

You're not Tankman from CRPG are you?