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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 17:23:01
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Been Around the Block
Belfast, Northern Ireland
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I've just been wondering this, I know the Salamander are probably at top, but what about the other ones ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 17:28:02
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Confessor Of Sins
WA, USA
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Space Wolves as well, in their own way. Though many will argue that the Wolves go about it the wrong way, by making small saves at the expense of greater losses.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 17:28:51
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Space Wolves kinda. Salamanders definitely. Ultramarines pretty solidly. GK not really. DA not really. BA not so much. Space Sharks not even slightly. Minotaurs even less than the Sharks. Imperial Fists a decent amount. White Scars sorta-kinda. Black Templars nope.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 17:29:44
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Salamanders for sure. Smurfs i though cared mostly for there own system rather than the people in general. dunno about the wolves. marines malevolent.. feth no
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 17:51:39
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Ruthless Interrogator
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I think Ravenguard care about civilians too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 18:45:16
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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The Wolves and Salamanders are definitely at the top when it comes to protecting people. Ultramarines, Blood Angels, White Scars, Imperial Fists and Raven Guard are all nice to civilians as well, though they will usually not go out of their way to protect them like the Wolves or Salamanders do. Dark Angels just don't care about civilians while the Iron Hands are really brutal and sometimes target them deliberately as punishment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 19:28:24
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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I think the RavenGuard will protect civilians as long as it doesn't distract from something way more important, like a mission critical objective.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 19:49:35
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Desubot wrote:Salamanders for sure.
Smurfs i though cared mostly for there own system rather than the people in general.
dunno about the wolves.
marines malevolent.. feth no
Ultras- Nightbringer sums it up pretty well; It's their sworn duty to protect the Imperium and all of its servants. Sometimes sacrifices must be made, but they'd rather risk their own lives to save a planetary population before letting the inquisition blow it up.
Wolves- Emperor's Gift gives us insight into this, but it's a bit more complex. After the1st war for Armageddon the Inquisition wanted to execute the planet's population and all IG forces that were called in to fight for the plant after the war ended because of the possibility that they may be tainted by the demons that attacked the planet and/or have found out that the army was led by a former primarch. They straight up go to war with the Grey Knights over this. It's mentioned that part of their motivation is that they lost many brothers defending that planet's populace, so to have the big =I= roll in and just kill them would render their struggle and sacrifice pointless, but there's definitely a sense that they are honour-bound to the people they fought for and with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 19:55:40
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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There is also the fact that the Space Wolves are both morons and, also, heretics, but don't actually realize it... because they're dim. Dreadfully so.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 20:06:02
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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i wouldn't call the space wolves dim, i'd just say they don't care about being smart, they don't value it as a concept
Also someone mentioned Blood Angels as not but in fact they very much care about civilians, it was one of Sanguinius' defining traits and they still act very much as their primarch mostly intended
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 20:12:54
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I think they're more just culturally narrow minded, and since they're Astartes they really have no reason to change their ways. They even slap down the Inquisition and Ecclesiarchy if they get rubbed the wrong way, so really who's going to tell them they're wrong (assuming they even are, the Imperium is totally backwards itself)?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 20:28:59
Subject: Re:What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
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The Minotaurs, Flesh Tearers, and the Grey Knights.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 20:40:28
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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More Dakka wrote:I think they're more just culturally narrow minded, and since they're Astartes they really have no reason to change their ways. They even slap down the Inquisition and Ecclesiarchy if they get rubbed the wrong way, so really who's going to tell them they're wrong (assuming they even are, the Imperium is totally backwards itself)?
The Wolves are wrong because they deny that their Librarians... that is, the Rune Priests... use the Warp to fuel their psychic powers, but instead the "natural forces of Fenris".
This means either the Space Wolves are a) Very Stupid and don't understand how the Warp works, leaving them entirely unqualified to tell the Grey Knights and the Inquisition how Warp Corruption works...
... or it means Rune Priests are all Sorcerers, which makes them Warp-dabblers and, therefore, heretics.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 20:56:03
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well it's one or the other then, not both as you mentioned previously.
And actually, that would be ignorance, not stupidity.
Bottom line, in the 41st Millennium might makes right. If the big =I= can actually get themselves sorted and take the wolves down then yes, I'd agree that they're heretics. As long as they keep rocking their plot armour they'll still be heroes in the fluff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 21:32:41
Subject: Re:What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Hellacious Havoc
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Space Wolves and Salamanders are two of the chapters well known for their honor code to defend civilians, going out of their way to help evacuations and defence; more so than the average chapter at least.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 22:46:28
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Salamanders, Ultramarines, Space Wolves, Blood Drinkers, and the Raven Guard all care about civies off the top of my head. Dark Angels also recognize the prowess of Guardsmen, although they'll chop their head off if they see a Fallen.
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“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.” |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 23:18:45
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Psienesis wrote:There is also the fact that the Space Wolves are both morons and, also, heretics, but don't actually realize it... because they're dim. Dreadfully so.
They are less heretical and moronic than many Inquisitors, but what is the point of this post?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 05:41:37
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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Psienesis wrote:Space Sharks not even slightly. Minotaurs even less than the Sharks.
Not possible. While the Minotaurs have probably done some fethed up stuff, they've never killed civilians for gaks and giggles. The Sharks did this twice over the course of the Badab War- first by blowing up Badab Prime and then by having the civilian men of the Epydidimon Cluster fight each other to the death until only a few hundred were left.
The Sharks are damned near as bad as the Night Lords.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 06:20:07
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well they all should, as their role is to protect the imperium. Arrogance and genetic supremacy aside (and the unfortunate need for collateral damage at times), any chapter that doesn't ensure the survival and protection of civilians are verging on heresy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 08:50:06
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Terrifying Doombull
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Psienesis wrote:There is also the fact that the Space Wolves are both morons and, also, heretics, but don't actually realize it... because they're dim. Dreadfully so.
Really? Anyone willing to bleed the Inqusiton and their lapdogs ears a mark of excelence in my book
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 08:57:00
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Hallowed Canoness
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More Dakka wrote:]
Ultras- Nightbringer sums it up pretty well; It's their sworn duty to protect the Imperium and all of its servants. Sometimes sacrifices must be made, but they'd rather risk their own lives to save a planetary population before letting the inquisition blow it up.
... All of which is then thrown out the window when the Ultramarine protagonist decides his own life is more important than the thousands that the Nightbringer might kill in the future and lets it go instead of burying it. Literally, this is his reasoning: "He might kill some people if I let him go, but I am utterly irreplaceable to the Imperial war effort and must survive."
Trondheim wrote: Psienesis wrote:There is also the fact that the Space Wolves are both morons and, also, heretics, but don't actually realize it... because they're dim. Dreadfully so.
Really? Anyone willing to bleed the Inqusiton and their lapdogs ears a mark of excelence in my book
... Says the Chaos player. Not really, ah, helping the Wolves' case there...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 15:46:45
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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EmpNortonII wrote: Psienesis wrote:Space Sharks not even slightly. Minotaurs even less than the Sharks.
Not possible. While the Minotaurs have probably done some fethed up stuff, they've never killed civilians for gaks and giggles. The Sharks did this twice over the course of the Badab War- first by blowing up Badab Prime and then by having the civilian men of the Epydidimon Cluster fight each other to the death until only a few hundred were left.
The Sharks are damned near as bad as the Night Lords.
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You missed the first messed up thing they did in the Badab war, they ravaged the Endymion cluster to force the Mantis warriors into a battle the Sharks knew they'd win, THEN they blew up Badab Prime with 600 Loyalist marines on for no reason other than it was quicker and then they went back to the Endymion cluster forced everyone to murder each other and then looted the Mantis warriors chapter Monastery
...what a chapter!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 15:55:55
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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Off the top of my head, the chapters who are in general the kindest to civilians
Salamanders
Space Wolves
Blood Angels
Ultramarines (to an extent)
There are probably a bunch more that I'm missing, but those are the ones I remember
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TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
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Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 21:49:30
Subject: What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Fire Angels and Celestial Lions.
The Fire Angels withdrew from the Badab War over the Space Sharks treatment of civilians, amidst reports of fighting breaking out between the two chapters.
The Celestial Lions had attempted to prevent the Inquisition from exterminating the population of Khattar, with their subsequent attempts to have the Inquisitor responsible brought to justice seemingly being the reason for their untimely demise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 22:39:51
Subject: Re:What chapters of space marines cares about the civilians ?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Salamanders place their role as protectors first. (Or at least, that's the chapter ideal.)
Space Wolves follow a whole warrior code thing, and will put their lives in the line for humans who demonstrate bravery and resolve in the face of danger.
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