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Kilkrazy wrote: Here in the UK the second episode was broadcast on Monday.
I don't think I liked it as much as the early X Files which I am watching with my wife on DVD. The conspiracy seemed a bit unlikely; a shadowy group within the US government forming an alliance to use alien technology to enslave the Earth and go and live in space. Why? They are already in charge as it is.
The second episode was better.
Don't watch the rest of the series. It quickly spirals even further downhill.
The last episode of the X-Files (s10e6) was exactly the kind of incoherent garbage that made me stop watching it in Season 8, and 100% why I couldn't get excited about the X-Files reboot when it got announced.
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Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
This season overall was complete and utter gak. I was hoping for a proper ending that wrapped up the shown and gave us closure, instead all we got was yet another cliff hanger that simply serves as a teaser for the next season (if they even decide to make one) or a feature film. The show is long past its prime and jumped the shark years ago, just let it die gracefully and give it the ending and closure it deserves rather than let it linger on indefinitely on life support until the network, producers or whoever decide to pull the plug and cancel it due to falling ratings or critical reception.
By the end of the episode I was asking "Is that it?"
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My wife couldn't remember seeing any similar 'comedy' episodes in the 1990s but there were several. They work especially well IMO because the rest of the series is so serious.
Kilkrazy wrote: My wife couldn't remember seeing any similar 'comedy' episodes in the 1990s but there were several. They work especially well IMO because the rest of the series is so serious.
Some of the better episodes, imo, were "Clyde Bruckman's Last Repose", "Bad Blood" and "Small Potatoes".
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Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
Last episode watched. Overall I enjoyed it, the ending was waaaay too open but it was tighter than ep4 and 5. Enjoyed cancerman/mulders interaction.
The plot was probably a bit too "epic scale" for x files, worldwide plagues and whatnot.
Overall I give the season 5/10. Some stinkers, some ok, some good.
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Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: The finale was basically a teaser for the next season or feature film, which really annoys me because theres no guarantee that we'll actually get one.
Well, just hope and pray that X-files won't get completely gakked on like what's happening with 24...
Mind you, after having gone through that pile of BS that 'Live Another Day' left us with, I was 110% never going to be surprised when Fox inevitably made the exact same clusterfeth out of this re-boot!
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: The finale was basically a teaser for the next season or feature film, which really annoys me because theres no guarantee that we'll actually get one.
Well, just hope and pray that X-files won't get completely gakked on like what's happening with 24...
Mind you, after having gone through that pile of BS that 'Live Another Day' left us with, I was 110% never going to be surprised when Fox inevitably made the exact same clusterfeth out of this re-boot!
This wasn't a reboot, it was a sequel, a direct continuation of the older series and films. From what I understand, the next incarnation of 24 is also going to be a sequel, but with no returning characters like Jack Baur. A reboot is something like Battlestar Galactica, a complete start-from-scratch remake of the classic show. (I actually loved BSG).
My fear is that instead of actually giving the show a proper ending to Mulder and Scully's arc, resisting the Alien 'Invasion' and colonization and the Government conspirators... (which has apparently been retconned into "The Aliens are friendly after all! It was the evil Government all along!")...declining ratings and critical reception will prompt Fox to remake the show entirely from scratch with new younger actors playing Mulder and Scully. They'll have spent 20 years building up to an alien invasion, only to cancel it and reboot the show.
(And yes, I know that younger agents almost exactly like Mulder and Scully have been introduced, but they're separate characters and therefore technically not a remake. I mean Mulder and Scully being literally recast in a remake of Season 1).
Another reboot that irks me is Stargate. They've decided to start from scratch and reboot the entire franchise with a new continuity, jettisoning 15 years of established
Stargate Universe had a poor critical reception, but I liked it and I wanted a conclusion to the cliffhanger of Season 2. The Destiny and its crew are currently stuck in a limbo (with the crew in cryostasis) as the ship spends 3 years transiting between galaxies at sub light speeds. That cliffhanger has not been resolved. Hell, I'd settle for a series of comics or novels, I just want a conclusion. At least Stargate Atlantis was continued with a series of novels.
Spoiler:
Syfy announced on December 16, 2010 that it would not be picking Stargate Universe up for a third season and that the Spring 2011 season would be the last to air on its channel. To this day, there has been no word from MGM Television on this decision.
After the cancellation of Universe, "Gaters" (Stargate fans) reacted angrily towards Syfy, despite Brad Wright's comments suggesting a "post-season 2" resolution to the series. The response was largely umbrage directed at the network that "seemed to display precious little appreciation for its own supposed product, science fiction". Many fans blamed the move from the franchise's usual time-slot, Friday to Tuesday. On May 12, 2011, Syfy released a letter to "Gaters", explaining its reasons for the series' cancellation.
Universe fans later started a petition and a Facebook campaign, aimed at a revival for the series. In May 2014, Warner Brothers and MGM announced a reboot trilogy. Roland Emmerich, who directed and co-wrote the original film with Dean Devlin, will direct and Devlin will produce. The announcement was a surprise towards "Gaters", receiving a mixed reaction between the Stargate fanbase. As of July 2015, the cliffhanger to Gauntlet remains unresolved.
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I liked this episode. Do you think they will pass the torch to Agent Einstein and Agent Miller? I would me ok with that.
I hope not. I didn't like either actor/actress.
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Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: The finale was basically a teaser for the next season or feature film, which really annoys me because theres no guarantee that we'll actually get one.
I have no stake in the game, as I never watched the originals. But having watched these new 6, it would be funny as gak if they left it there!
However, FOX is saying that want to continue the season. So, there is that!
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Gordon Shumway wrote: I'm working my way through the original series right now. At what point do I quit?
When Muldur and Scully are replaced by different lead characters probably. Season 8 or 9 I think. Though YMMV. I personally liked all seasons even after Dogget and Reyes replaced Muldur and Scully.
@Shadow Captain Edithae: Re-boot was likely the wrong way to put it, but this new "season" of X-files was exactly the same over-hyped BS that we'd already suffered through with 24: LaD; Fox promised long-time fans a new 'mini season' that would end things off and tie up the story with a proper ending.
Instead, we got nothing of the sort, just bad cliff-hanger endings so that the studio could leave things open ended and potentially continue things down the road. (if ever)
With 24 it's even more of a kick in the teeth, as not only do we now have Jack's fate completely up in the air, but the blue-ray also gave us the additional 'episode short' "Solitary":
Warning huge spoilers!!
Spoiler:
Tony Almeida is brought back into play, with a story setting up his almost certain escape from prison, which would either set him up to be a new antagonist or else an anti-hero/redemption story line in which he'd be a part of helping to get Jack out of the Russian gulag he's currently languishing in.
Guaranteed, when this new X-files season hits dvd/blue-ray, Fox will put some similar BS into the extras, then about face 6-18 months down to road and turn everything into some new bastardised load of horse gak like they're doing to ruin 24.
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Makes me wonder if you would prefer to milk a living horse?
New Xfiles is good enough for another series.
I had just if shed a complete trawl through s1-9 when the new season was announced and found this better than the final Doggert/Reyes seasons even if Andersons face is now somewhat stuck in a slightly surprised Botox look. I'm pleased the bbc allow her to look more natural (and attractive) in the series she does here.
E1 was a stinker though, far too much exposition followed by the unnecessary need to undermine Mulders beliefs just to shoehorn him back into the FBI.
Ive enjoyed all the following episodes (to e4 on tv at the mo) that I've seen.
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chromedog wrote: About the only episode I enjoyed was the werelizard-thing one.
The rest were just ...
I wanted to believe, really - but it was just more of the old same-old, same-old.
I'd really much rather have seen the Lone Gunmen return.
Funnily enough, I think their deaths were retconned in a comic series and the canon now says that they faked their deaths. So they probably will return if the X-Files gets another season.
I watch like zero tv but I watched this and enjoyed it. I even looked forwad to mondays because of the show.
What I like is that it has progressed into the new age of conspiracy since the internet has become a constant presence in peoples lives. Old X-Files had all the conspiracy theories that were serious for the time but now just seem quaint. This new season reflects the new styles of conspiracy theories and mostly just plain uses them. Nothing about this season has been hard for me to follow because I lurk in conspiracy forums for the yuks and so I know a lot of the things people are talking about in real life.
None of it entirely coherent and so any story about modern conspiracy is going to have that taint too. Which is kind of part of the fun to me. I hope they make more so I can look forward to mondays again and make use of the TV.
Its good to have a monster of the week series back IMO. I like it.
I hope it stays on the air.
To be honest, I felt the conspiracy is dialed back because well, they already know about it
hotsauceman1 wrote: Its good to have a monster of the week series back IMO. I like it.
I hope it stays on the air.
To be honest, I felt the conspiracy is dialed back because well, they already know about it
They should be concluding the alien conspiracy arc, instead of letting it fester.
They should end the Alien Conspiracy arc with a big finale or feature film, kill off Muldur and Scully (or at least give them satisfying payoffs), and bring in new new blood characters to replace them in a reinvented and reinvigorated X-Files show that focuses purely on Monsters of the Week, since that has always been the show's greatest strength. Hell, Muldur and Scully can show up as occasional special guests, and theres no reason why Aliens can't be the monsters of the week.
I was pretty underwhelmed by this new series, really. The only really good moments were the comic bits, and the rest was really flat. Duchovny was part of the problem, he was funny and charming as always, but if anything his dramatic range seems to have gone from limited to zero in his time away from the show.
There were other problems with the execution, most of the events were unloaded in big blobs of dialogue. TV has moved on a lot since the original show, while the X-Files have gone backwards in its storytelling. And Joel McHale was just a weird bit of casting, why take a guy known for acerbic wit, put him in an Alex Jones style role ripe for satire, and then make the role humourless, basically Basil Exposition thing? Very strange.
More than anything though, I think this new series struggled with the same issues that dragged down the show in its last few series of the original run. The X-Files always felt the need to expand on and build this vast global conspiracy – every season ender had to increase the scope and threat of the one big conspiracy. But the core of the show was always very small, it was a quirky mystery show with a mismatched pair of investigators. Its absolute strength was always the relationship between Mulder and Scully, and that’s a relationship that works best when the stakes are low and the tone was light. The further it moved from that the more bad episodes we got.
When the new episodes kept to small mysteries it was okay, but it was bookended by two big conspiracy episodes that were completely dreadful. And it’s those two crappy episodes that will be remembered, in the end.
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Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.