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Been toying with some fluff around a fanon xeno race called the An'Guem. They're slavers and merchants, running a multi-racial empire, happy to take others as subjects as long as they know their place.

You have a feral human world thats never been contacted by the Imperium. It is effectively a colony of the An'Guem empire, who use it much as Terra would, keeping a governor and collecting tithes of resources and labour while allowing the rabble to get on with their day to day lives. However their empire is waning and the Imperium barges in. Many natives including many former puppet leaders side with the Imperium as they proceed to curbstomp the aliens.

What next?

Would the Imperium happily incorporate the planet as is, dependent on enthusiasm for the Imperial way etc. or would centuries of contact and collobaration with filthy xenos mean the populace is not fit for the Emperor's light and is promptly wiped out?

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Due to them being feral and uncontacted, and the the nature of the Xenos control being enforced, I think the Imperium would go lightly on them. It's not like they could resist, being technologically backwards, and it's not like they even knew of the Emperor's light in order to turn from it.

Bear in mind, a large proportion of the current Imperium was once iin the same situation after the Dark Age of Technology. The Great Crusade liberated many a planet and its populace from Xenos hands.

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I think the Imperium would wipe them out. Need to keep the setting laughably and illogically grimdark, after all.
   
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 Lord Corellia wrote:
I think the Imperium would wipe them out. Need to keep the setting laughably and illogically grimdark, after all.
Except you don't. This is exactly the kind of situation where the Ecclesiarchy and the Missionaria Galaxia are at their best. Such a population would be given the full missionary and conversion treatment to best incorporate them into the Imperium.
   
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Imperium would kill the aliens and then send missionaries to indoctrinate the humans into the Imperial creed. Send a planetary governor, tithe some locals for the Guard and praise the Emperor!

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A lot of it will likely depend on how culturally Xenos the population were. Being enslaved, or ruled against your will is one thing. Fully and intelligently participating as equals in a Xenos society is another. Gue'vesa for example (Humans who defected to the Tau) would be seen as among the worst type of traitors.

In that case, they likely would exterminate them and repopulate the planet. Not out of being overly grimdark I wouldn't say, just ruthlessly pragmatic. The population of a feral world holds no intrinsic value (unless we're talking billions of hardy warriors) so the risk/reward of spending generations engineering the cultural taint from them is not worth it. Sure, the Imperium has missionaries, but they're for the ignorant and misguided, not willing heretics.

If the feral population was particularly hardy and numerous, then they'd likely send them into suicide missions with the Imperial Guard. Same result, but greater efficiency. If they were Gue'vesa, and numerous and hardy, then they'd likely sterilise them and work them to death in camps. No point wasting a good resource.

If the population wasn't feral though, and instead say was a productive hive world with a functional civil society, then targeted purges would likely be the way, as keeping the factories running would make the cost, time and risk required to socially engineer the planet worth it.

Both how knowingly complicit the population were, and how valuable the population are, would all factor into the decision I feel.

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The Ordo Hereticus, the Ordo Xenos and the Ecclesiarchy will spend years, even decades, rooting out signs of heresy, xeno-philia and similar taint from the population while also re-integrating the population into the Imperial fold.

We see much the same thing in the GG novels with the planet Gereon. It fell to Chaos and was an occupied world, then the forces of the Crusade swung its way and liberated the planet. Once most of the shooting stopped, the various Administratum and Ecclesiarchal offices moved in, along with the Inquisition, and started re-converting the population, purging those "too far gone".

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An'Guem?
   
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Cheers for all the responses guys

Hierophant wrote:A lot of it will likely depend on how culturally Xenos the population were. Being enslaved, or ruled against your will is one thing. Fully and intelligently participating as equals in a Xenos society is another. Gue'vesa for example (Humans who defected to the Tau) would be seen as among the worst type of traitors.


Its certainly more the former, the humans are not equals but certain loyal servants can end up doing well out of the occupation. However even few of them are truly loyal, merely pragmatists who realise its probably best to be on the side of the space aliens with guns. Come the Imperium however this all changes, theres a force powerful enough to beat the An'Guem and bloody hell, they're humans too!

KingGarland wrote:An'Guem?


My own creation. Have I accidentally knicked an existing name or something?

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Jape wrote:
KingGarland wrote:An'Guem?


My own creation. Have I accidentally knicked an existing name or something?


Not really. I just had a similar idea and was wondering if there was a place, another forum to learn about them.

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Have it be discovered by a space marine chapter, a fleet based one. They slaughter the xenos, declare right of conquest and establish the planet as their home while leaving the populace in their feral state.
   
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Your xenos race sounds like Stryxis
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Stryxis

They would flourish at the other side of the border of the imperium. Trading with Rogue traders, pirates and Independent systems until someone decides to commandeer their ships or colonize their planet.
Inside the imperium they would not be tolerated and just be shot at sight.

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oldzoggy wrote:
Your xenos race sounds like Stryxis
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Stryxis

They would flourish at the other side of the border of the imperium. Trading with Rogue traders, pirates and Independent systems until someone decides to commandeer their ships or colonize their planet.
Inside the imperium they would not be tolerated and just be shot at sight.


I can see where you'd get the idea from my basic description but the An'Guem are not Space Skaven. They are an established empire. In the case of the feral world they treat it like some European colonies in Africa and Asia, with segregated garrison towns to collect 'taxes' and send out expeditions to quell unrest but beyond that they leave most inhabitants alone.

While the Imperium genocides aliens on conquered worlds and the Tau try to assimilate them, the An'Guem are economic imperialists, as long as they get the goods they're very hands off.

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Stryxis =/= space skaven. They might look like rats but that is all. They are a stone cold nomadic trade civilisation. ( at least they are in the rogue trader rpg ) Not that is matters much for the imperium, all non sanctified xenos should be killed.


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And there are always dubious rogue traders that will want to trade with them if it is possible.

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