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**SirSweetroll**

1d4chan... Much more reliable

**dusara217**

SirSweetroll wrote:
1d4chan... Much more reliable

I've never actually found anything on 4Chan that wasn't backed up by official fluff.

**Selym**

dusara217 wrote:
SirSweetroll wrote:
1d4chan... Much more reliable

I've never actually found anything on 4Chan that wasn't backed up by official fluff.

Yeah. Everything that isn't clear hyperbole or memes seems to be accurate. Sometimes you get outdated information though.

**JamesY**

dusara217 wrote:
SirSweetroll wrote:
1d4chan... Much more reliable

I've never actually found anything on 4Chan that wasn't backed up by official fluff.

Abaddon killing Sigismund. Much as I love the idea, can't think where that was officially stated (I would very much welcome someone proving me wrong!)

**Selym**

JamesY wrote:
dusara217 wrote:
SirSweetroll wrote:
1d4chan... Much more reliable

I've never actually found anything on 4Chan that wasn't backed up by official fluff.

Abaddon killing Sigismund. Much as I love the idea, can't think where that was officially stated (I would very much welcome someone proving me wrong!)

That's not what the page on Sigismund says:

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Sigismund wrote:Sigismund would fight in the First Black Crusade, where by that point he was over one thousand years old, having fought and killed everything the galaxy could throw at him (and given that it's 40k, that's a lot). Unlike most Imperials, he still believed the Traitor Legions would return, making the Black Templars the only Imperial force ready when the Black Legion invaded. Sigismund later faced Abaddon himself in battle during the First Black Crusade; the outcome is unconfirmed, but given that Sigismund is long dead and Abaddon very much alive by the 13th Black Crusade, well...

It implies it, but does not confirm it. All we'd need to validate this is any fluff evidence of Sigismund battling the Black Crusade.

**SomeRandomEvilGuy**

Selym wrote:

It implies it, but does not confirm it. All we'd need to validate this is any fluff evidence of Sigismund battling the Black Crusade.

Fair point.

Is Sigismund being alive at the time of the First Black Crusade stated anywhere in the background though (let alone him fighting Abaddon directly)? I haven't come across it.

Even if 4Chan doesn't directly make stuff up it twists and exaggerates actual background so much that it's inaccurate.

**asorel**

Psienesis wrote:He is also, like Jesus, miraculously a White Guy living in the Middle East since ancient times.

At least, if the artwork is to be believed.

Psienesis wrote:Caucasians, yes, but not "white" Caucasians (since, you know, tan skin and olive complexions and all).

Art-Jesus, and Republican Jesus, is blonde-haired with blue eyes.

Could we, just for once, discuss the grim darkness of the far future without pointlessly descending to petty identity politics?

**Furyou Miko**

asorel wrote:
Psienesis wrote:He is also, like Jesus, miraculously a White Guy living in the Middle East since ancient times.

At least, if the artwork is to be believed.

Psienesis wrote:Caucasians, yes, but not "white" Caucasians (since, you know, tan skin and olive complexions and all).

Art-Jesus, and Republican Jesus, is blonde-haired with blue eyes.

Could we, just for once, discuss the grim darkness of the far future without pointlessly descending to petty identity politics?

No, we can't. It's not really common knowledge, but the Emperor was actually a transman.

**asorel**

Furyou Miko wrote:
asorel wrote:
Psienesis wrote:He is also, like Jesus, miraculously a White Guy living in the Middle East since ancient times.

At least, if the artwork is to be believed.

Psienesis wrote:Caucasians, yes, but not "white" Caucasians (since, you know, tan skin and olive complexions and all).

Art-Jesus, and Republican Jesus, is blonde-haired with blue eyes.

Could we, just for once, discuss the grim darkness of the far future without pointlessly descending to petty identity politics?

No, we can't. It's not really common knowledge, but the Emperor was actually a transman.

I think you mean "transperson." "Man" implies that only males can amalgamate the souls of two hundred psykers and single handedly oppose Chaos given form, gaklord.

**Furyou Miko**

No, I mean transman. Because no matter what the Emperor's original gender, they present as male now.

The gender identifier applied to a transperson's status is based off their actual/presenting gender, not their birth gender.

That's not an identity argument, that's semantics.

**asorel**

Furyou Miko wrote:
No, I mean transman. Because no matter what the Emperor's original gender, they present as male now.

The gender identifier applied to a transperson's status is based off their actual/presenting gender, not their birth gender.

That's not an identity argument, that's semantics.

I take it the sarcasm is lost on you?

**Furyou Miko**

Yes. I'm a terrible brit.

**Manchu**

Please don't spam the forum.