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Wicked Canoptek Wraith




I dont know where i am... please... i dont know where i am

Hello! if you could make your own primarch,what would his fluff stats and abilities be?

Hate me or love me. either way i benefit. if you love me ill always be on your heart. if you hate me i wil always be on your mind
space marines-battle
company
30k: word bearers, deamons, cults and militia,

 
   
Made in us
Wicked Canoptek Wraith




I dont know where i am... please... i dont know where i am

,

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/10/19 12:38:28


Hate me or love me. either way i benefit. if you love me ill always be on your heart. if you hate me i wil always be on your mind
space marines-battle
company
30k: word bearers, deamons, cults and militia,

 
   
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion




Connah's Quay, North Wales

There is very little point with coming up with rules without a point cost. Otherwise how can we tell you if he is OP, or undercosted, because almost anything can be balanced if it costs enough. Have a look at similar models and their pricing and then come up with your own, showing your workings, to get the best response.

But as a Primarch this guy leaves a lot to be desired. Look at the others, this guy does nothing for his army. He has no ''Sire of the end'' (for the record, not a great name for a legion), no multiple weapon options no characterful special rules.

Just look at his gun, whats the point in Twin linked and Master Crafted? He is BS 8, so is a shooter, but his gun is worthless. Why is his melee weapon AP 3 (no other primarch is AP 3 that i know of) but can be super charged to be ridiculous. When people complain about Str D, it is usually because it removes their models with no saves, and you want to make a model based around that? I'm not even going to make much mention of his armour, but a 2+ invulnerable save on 3 wounds or less on a Primarch is not ok, it's just not.

A good start, but needs a lot more research and character,

 
   
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Confessor Of Sins




WA, USA

One post in and we have S: D AP1 apocalyptic blasts.

This is parody right?

Edit: reading further this HAS to be a joke. This one of the most comically overpowered and broken messes this board has seen in months.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/10/18 17:04:34


 Ouze wrote:

Afterward, Curran killed a guy in the parking lot with a trident.
 
   
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Sister Vastly Superior





 curran12 wrote:
One post in and we have S: D AP1 apocalyptic blasts.

This is parody right?

Edit: reading further this HAS to be a joke. This one of the most comically overpowered and broken messes this board has seen in months.
Mere S: D apocalyptic blast? That is for the weak! This ignores all invulnerable saves and has vortex!

My contribution: Timothy the Git.
Despite what his mother claims, Timothy is not actually a primarch. In fact, he hasn't even had basic military training. This is just weedy boy that grabbed a bad gun and an almost broken sword who went out to fight in the Horus Heresy. He leads both loyalists and traitors to breathtakingly pointless defeats because he could not figure out who is on whose side or what they are fighting over. His failures at leadership are only matched by his failures at being a decent human being. Any army that allows themselves to be led by this scrawny waste of flesh should be ashamed.

Unit Type: Infantry (Character)
Unit Composition: 1 (Unique)
WS BS S T W I A LD SV
2 2 3 2 1 2 1 5 -
Wargear: The Sword of the Ancients, The Ancestral Laser Pistol, His own petard
Special Rules: Inflated Ego, The Real Deal, Sire of the Gits, Scrawny Waste of Flesh

Wargear:
The Sword of the Ancients: A really old sword. Its casting process left it riddled with imperfections, meaning it can shatter at any time. Being ancient and neglected for has not done it any wonders either, leaving the blade rusty and blunt.
Range S AP Type
- -1 - Melee, Fragile
Fragile: Any roll to hit with this weapon of a 1 results in the weapon being destroyed and made unusable for the rest of the battle.

The Ancestral Laser Pistol: Just a really old Laspistol. Its batteries have started to decay and it may explode at any moment. It requires the shooters full attention to produce anything like a coherent beam.
Range S AP Type
12" 3 - Assault 1, Gets Hot

His own petard: At any time the controlling player may remove this model. This model is counted as a casualty for purposes of counting victory conditions.

Special Rules:
Inflated Ego: This model must be taken selected as your warlord. This model cannot take any warlord traits.

The Real Deal: This model may not be selected as part of the same army as any model with the "Primarch" special rule. If there is a model with the Primarch special rule on the table, immediately remove this model as a casualty as he runs away to cower another day.

Sire of Gits: All models in the same detachment as this model lower their leadership by 3 points and lose the Legiones Astares special rule. The detachment that this model is selected as may not take any Rite of War.

Scrawny Waste of Flesh: Any army led by this commander should feel ashamed. Your opponent is allowed one free punch for insulting your soldiers. Also, you have to provide all food and beverages for this gaming session as an apology for wasting everyone's time.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I spent way too much time writing that.

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Still waiting for Godot. 
   
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith




I dont know where i am... please... i dont know where i am

sorry the primarch above was my friends idea we were messing around with no real thought towards balance. i apologize i just wanted to make a thingy about malal

Hate me or love me. either way i benefit. if you love me ill always be on your heart. if you hate me i wil always be on your mind
space marines-battle
company
30k: word bearers, deamons, cults and militia,

 
   
Made in us
Confessor Of Sins




WA, USA

 hanshotfirst wrote:
sorry the primarch above was my friends idea we were messing around with no real thought towards balance. i apologize i just wanted to make a thingy about malal


Your 'friend', right. Sounds totally legit.

 Ouze wrote:

Afterward, Curran killed a guy in the parking lot with a trident.
 
   
Made in us
Wicked Canoptek Wraith




I dont know where i am... please... i dont know where i am

,

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/10/19 12:38:59


Hate me or love me. either way i benefit. if you love me ill always be on your heart. if you hate me i wil always be on your mind
space marines-battle
company
30k: word bearers, deamons, cults and militia,

 
   
Made in us
Ruthless Interrogator





 hanshotfirst wrote:
geeze screw you guys im going to B&C
my friend is legit but apparently someone whos only friends are the type who only exist in ur head cant comprehend that we were messing around on the computer


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The Signless ur guy is lol.


dafuq?


First I can barely understand the sentence you wrote right there.

Second, why wouldn't your friend post the character himself if it was his idea?

Thirdly, if you did write it yourself why don't you just admit that you wanted to make a strong character, but didn't know how to make him fun/balanced, and just slapped some rules on him and hoped it stuck?




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It has 7 HQs, 2 Troop types with Dedicated Transports, 5 Elite units, 5 Fast Attack units, 6 Heavy Support units, 2 Formations with unique units not in the rest of the codex, and 2 LOW choices.

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Sister Vastly Superior





Come on people, the original post allows us to throw all logic out the window. Come up with your Primarchs.

Legion Alpharius Squad
May or may not actually be Alpharius.
Spoiler:
Troops
Unit Composition:
9 Legion Alphariuses
1 Legion Alpharius Sergaent

Unit Type:
Infantry

WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
Legion Alpharius: 4 4 4 4 1 4 1 8 3+
Legion Alpharius Sergeant: 4 4 4 4 1 4 2 9 3+

Wargear:
Power armour
Bolter
Bolt Pistol
Frag and Krak grenades

Special Rules:
Legiones Astartes (Alpha Legion)
Fury of the Legion

Dedicated Transport:
As long as it numbers no more than 10 models, the squad may choose a Rhino as a Dedicated Transport.

Options
The Legion Alpharius Squad may take:
- Up to 10 additional Legion Alphariuses +10 points each
The entire Legion Alpharius Squad may do one of the following:
- Exchange their bolter for a combat blade or chainsword - Free
- Take an additional combat blade or chainsword +10 points each
Any Alpharius may take:
- Power dagger +5 points
One Alpharius may take a Nuncio-vox +10 points
One Alpharius may carry a Legion Vexilla +10 points
The Legion Alpharius Squad's Sergeant may exchange their bolter for one of the following:
- combi-weapon +10 points
- Plasma pistol + 15 points
- Heavy chainsword +5 points
- Power weapon +10 points
- Power fist +15 points
- Single lightning clas +15 ponts
The Legion Alpharius Sergeant may take melta-bombs +5 points
The Legion Alpharius Sergeant may upgrade to artificer armour +10 points

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/10/19 14:27:42


Still waiting for Godot. 
   
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential





Someone should make Cypher the Savior after he resurrects the Emperor and gets promoted to Honorary Primarch.

It's called a thick skin. The Jersey born have it innately. 
   
Made in us
Wicked Canoptek Wraith




I dont know where i am... please... i dont know where i am

what?

Hate me or love me. either way i benefit. if you love me ill always be on your heart. if you hate me i wil always be on your mind
space marines-battle
company
30k: word bearers, deamons, cults and militia,

 
   
Made in gb
Boosting Ultramarine Biker





 the Signless wrote:
 curran12 wrote:
One post in and we have S: D AP1 apocalyptic blasts.

This is parody right?

Edit: reading further this HAS to be a joke. This one of the most comically overpowered and broken messes this board has seen in months.
Mere S: D apocalyptic blast? That is for the weak! This ignores all invulnerable saves and has vortex!

My contribution: Timothy the Git.
Despite what his mother claims, Timothy is not actually a primarch. In fact, he hasn't even had basic military training. This is just weedy boy that grabbed a bad gun and an almost broken sword who went out to fight in the Horus Heresy. He leads both loyalists and traitors to breathtakingly pointless defeats because he could not figure out who is on whose side or what they are fighting over. His failures at leadership are only matched by his failures at being a decent human being. Any army that allows themselves to be led by this scrawny waste of flesh should be ashamed.

Unit Type: Infantry (Character)
Unit Composition: 1 (Unique)
WS BS S T W I A LD SV
2 2 3 2 1 2 1 5 -
Wargear: The Sword of the Ancients, The Ancestral Laser Pistol, His own petard
Special Rules: Inflated Ego, The Real Deal, Sire of the Gits, Scrawny Waste of Flesh

Wargear:
The Sword of the Ancients: A really old sword. Its casting process left it riddled with imperfections, meaning it can shatter at any time. Being ancient and neglected for has not done it any wonders either, leaving the blade rusty and blunt.
Range S AP Type
- -1 - Melee, Fragile
Fragile: Any roll to hit with this weapon of a 1 results in the weapon being destroyed and made unusable for the rest of the battle.

The Ancestral Laser Pistol: Just a really old Laspistol. Its batteries have started to decay and it may explode at any moment. It requires the shooters full attention to produce anything like a coherent beam.
Range S AP Type
12" 3 - Assault 1, Gets Hot

His own petard: At any time the controlling player may remove this model. This model is counted as a casualty for purposes of counting victory conditions.

Special Rules:
Inflated Ego: This model must be taken selected as your warlord. This model cannot take any warlord traits.

The Real Deal: This model may not be selected as part of the same army as any model with the "Primarch" special rule. If there is a model with the Primarch special rule on the table, immediately remove this model as a casualty as he runs away to cower another day.

Sire of Gits: All models in the same detachment as this model lower their leadership by 3 points and lose the Legiones Astares special rule. The detachment that this model is selected as may not take any Rite of War.

Scrawny Waste of Flesh: Any army led by this commander should feel ashamed. Your opponent is allowed one free punch for insulting your soldiers. Also, you have to provide all food and beverages for this gaming session as an apology for wasting everyone's time.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I spent way too much time writing that.


Where can I buy this miniature!

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