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Recently played against someone that have red and orange marines (they were really well done) and he was using the white scars chapter tactics, I didn't mind because I've always been of the opinion that you can and should paint your models the way you want them to be.
What I found odd was when he asked me if it was ok. I said for sure no problem and he told me that a lot of people have a problem with it. Was curious on how people feel about this.?

People don't like it when they perceive people jumping tactics to the best ones every time the meta changes.

Personally I am cool with any vanilla marines doing it. I get a little annoyed when say Blood Angels try to use Ultramarines tactics. But would still probably play.

I would make my opponent explain the fluff of his army, then play him regardless

I would be perfectly fine with it. People make custom chapters all the time.

yeah exactly, my necrons are not of any standard clors but thats no reason to play against me.
But they are necrons and that is a reason

This is why most people, including your opponent, paint their marines a random color. So that they can play any chapter. As they should be able to. Good on you for not being the 1%er that is against it

Thanks, a game is a game, thats all it comes down to really

It's a good way in my opinion of sampling out what chapter works best for you, without having to commit to painting an entire army a certain chapter color and then not enjoying it.

Some people have issues with 'codex hopping'... I've never really understood why.

Beside that, we had the 6th edition codex (or was it just the release notes?) mention that in order to use specific Chapter doctrines, the army had to be painted as that Chapter... a stipulation that most players are more than happy to ignore.

I don't care if their Chapter Tactics change from game to game or if there's multiple in the army. As long as it's clear and my opponent knows which is which and when they get their rule buffs, I'm perfectly content with it.

 insaniak wrote:
Some people have issues with 'codex hopping'... I've never really understood why.

Beside that, we had the 6th edition codex (or was it just the release notes?) mention that in order to use specific Chapter doctrines, the army had to be painted as that Chapter... a stipulation that most players are more than happy to ignore.

There was also a year the UK Grand Tournament said if your Marines were painted as a specific Chapter, you had to play them as that Chapter. I believe that was in 3rd edition, early 4th edition at the most. That ruling caught a lot of flak when it occurred.

Sunstripe wrote:

Personally I am cool with any vanilla marines doing it. I get a little annoyed when say Blood Angels try to use Ultramarines tactics. But would still probably play.

Some of us though had Blood Angels long before the chapters were different in any way. I don't own (and will not buy) any of the new BA rubbish.

bro i wish i could play with you, i played a daemon prince the other day and i got flack for not having the black mace on cause it broke half way through

 -v10mega wrote:
bro i wish i could play with you, i played a daemon prince the other day and i got flack for not having the black mace on cause it broke half way through

some of these cats are very special people

I once played an Ultramarines Biker army that used White Scars Chapter Tactics.

The color scheme of your models should be irrelevant. If you have one MEQ army (that's loyalist), you have them all.

If it's ultramarines or blood angels where its pretty friggin clear what chapter the guys are supposed to be, I'd prefer they use those rules. I'd probably still cut them a break if they're painted though.

Back in 5th, I remember fighting legions of grey plastic who were blood angels one week then space wolves the next. Got old really fast.

If it's a custom chapter though and painted its whatever to me.

That all said I can't really talk because I'm probably gonna go back and forth on my Lamenters with the space marine and blood angels codexes as I fool around and try to make an army that fits their background.

As long as it's clear what they are, paint them any colour you like...

I keep meaning to do a pink space marine army, I'd love to meet someone who thought they could dictate what chapter tactics I used with that.

Yeah. Alit of people do that. It's fine done worry. My whites cars are sometimes ultramarines. I always bring a list with me and I tell them the chapter.

Custom colors are best. I have not decided yet is my chapter green with gold trims or red with gold trims. I use dark angels bikes (because wing decorations) but I do not like a fluff of DA.

Pre-heresy game is another thing, there are no custom chapters. There I would play Thousand sons legion (so colors would be red with gold trims).

Well, a custom cheaper doing hops is reasonable as it gets.
Even main chapter doing a hop is fine.

When it gets messy it's not OK. (the ravenwing is white scars, the ultra is actual iron hands, and the blood angels are space wolves. At the same game. I kid you not I've seen this level of mess.)

Maybe he was worried you wouldn't like it because they didn't look much like white scars or any of their known successors (whoever they are), and that he just wanted to use their rules because they're good!

If it's a custom chapter, I don't really care what chapter tactics they use, as long as you tell me before the game starts. Tactics hopping wouldn't bother me too much either, maybe the chapter is a highly adaptable one, or you (understandably) don't want to make a new chapter each time you want to try new tactics!

I might get slightly leary if your space wolves turn in to dark angels though. I do prefer to have a slightly fluffy battle.

I have tried to shoe horn my old Chaos Marines as Loyalist Marines and people wont stop making Kay-Oss jokes.

Actually I always recommend people to paint their army in a non standard colour. I'm a salamanders guy, and I do love to bring the heat.

But sometimes I'd like to bring the motorbikes and or armoured spearhead.... but I end up being ''nerfed'' by not taking units that are helped by my chapter tactics.

I think everyone should just allow marines to play what ever tactics they want. I really feel my Salamanders are locked into one or two strategies now.

I made a similar post in another forum back when Iron Hands were the thing to run:

Don't like your Blood Angels? They're now the 'Sanguine Steel' Chapter with Iron Hands Chapter Tactics. The wings on the blood teardrop is actually referencing their air superiority and a molten drop of blood that fall into their forge. Very visceral adding life to their machines by keeping a touch of the Forgemaster's or Chapter Master's blood in the steel. Blood Rites and all that. Ta-da, my Blood Angels are now Iron Hands.

Same can be done for White Scars, Ultramarines, whatever. Easy to come up with some dumb fluff off the cuff and if anyone restricts it, they can feth off. Game is about creativity and imagination and how dare they limit your imagination just because of some coincidental similarities between the Blood Angels and Sangine Steel.

I often play my Dark angels as salamanders, I just like being able to switch it up a bit only playing one army gets boring after a while.

Kinda sounds like they were painted to be Exorcists from the description you gave (they can take any chapter tactics from the Codex).

Ofc, they could be a fan-made successor chapter - good on you for allowing it.

Another vote for "I don't care." Happy enough to find decent people to play with, and even happier if their army is painted at all.

I've played white scars since I started ~15 years ago. They're painted as white scars and have always used white scars rules, where possible, but it wouldn't bother me at all if someone used any colour of marine with any chapter tactics.

 edbradders wrote:
I've played white scars since I started ~15 years ago. They're painted as white scars and have always used white scars rules, where possible, but it wouldn't bother me at all if someone used any colour of marine with any chapter tactics.

Replace White Scars with Black Templars and my post will be the same.

Tell me what flavor of marine you're running so I can look up their rules, and then let's blow gak up.

Game on!

Personally i'm not a fan of people jumping from one chapter tactics to the next just because it kind of ruins the feel of chapters for me, but i'd never not play someone because of it, that's clearly just being an unfun person