What are CSM good at?

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**Martel732**

Does that make ba bad guys? Or even worse, since csm might be better.

**Slayer-Fan123**

Martel732 wrote:
Does that make ba bad guys? Or even worse, since csm might be better.

Nah, CSM's are worse. At least you have Death Company, Dante, and apothecaries to give everyone else.

Also a taxi service haha

**Martel732**

Death company is horribly limited and completely neutered by spoiling assaults.

The ba have nothing as nice as the baledrake and our fw options are very limited.

**nareik**

The only apothecary in the CSM codex isn't even kind enough to FNP his companions!

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That said, if you like slaanesh you get ghetto apothecaries for ~50 points, depending on squad.

**Martel732**

Any marine ba can give fnp to with a priest is still inferior to a plague marine.

**Slayer-Fan123**

Uh, what about Iron Hands Centurions and Sternguard for that delicious 4+++?

Actually that's a bad example because they aren't Blood Angels.

**Frozocrone**

I was going to say Bikes, but then I remember Nurgle Bikes are T6

**Martel732**

Frozocrone wrote:
I was going to say Bikes, but then I remember Nurgle Bikes are T6

BA bikes do have access to grav, which is good. However, grav guns are far less capable than grav cannons, making them surprisingly situational. DA, for example, scoff at BA grav bikers. But not SM grav cents with access to ignores cover through the libby conclave. The BA are the meq codex most reliant upon the generic marine stat line, and we suffer greatly for it. Meqs have fallen so far since 3rd.

**Grarg**

Experiment 626 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks it's an absolute insult that to simply have a chance we have to effectively leave actual Chaos Marines at home?

Not sure about anyone else, but when I picked up Chaos Marines many, many moons ago, it was to (shockingly) play with actual Chaos Space Marines! Too bad GW doesn't give a flying rodent gak about us.

I take my Emperor's Children out all the time (party due to the fact that i'm rebuilding my Raven Guard). The Crimson Slaughter codex makes CSM better, just from the relic side of things alone. Sorceror with the Balestar attached to a Rapier battery with Conversion beamers is disgusting.