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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/03 20:48:55
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Hi guys,
I wanted to see what everyone thought about this? I am using the Poe shenanigans to get the 3 actions per turn with some support in the forms of B-Wings. I threw in a Z-95 to fill points, but was thinking I might drop it to add cannons to the B's.
++ Rebel (Standard) (100pts) ++
+ B-Wing (50pts) +
PS 2 - Blue Squadron Pilot (25pts) [Advanced Sensors]
PS 2 - Blue Squadron Pilot (25pts) [Advanced Sensors]
+ T-70 X-Wing (38pts) +
PS 8 - •Poe Dameron (38pts) [Push the Limit, Weapons Guidance, •BB-8]
+ Z-95 Headhunter (12pts) +
PS 2 - Bandit Squadron Pilot (12pts)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/03 21:00:00
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Huge Hierodule
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Poe Needs Autothrusters. I also prefer R2-D2 or R5-P9 with him. Although he is really mobile with BB-8, I love how durable he is with the other two. I'd say drop the Weapons guidance (you want to camp focus to defend), and downgrade the B-wings to Fire Control system (I find it more useful on Blues anyways). This gives you enough points for the changes I'm suggesting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/03 21:22:51
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Crazy_Carnifex wrote:Poe Needs Autothrusters. I also prefer R2-D2 or R5-P9 with him. Although he is really mobile with BB-8, I love how durable he is with the other two. I'd say drop the Weapons guidance (you want to camp focus to defend), and downgrade the B-wings to Fire Control system (I find it more useful on Blues anyways). This gives you enough points for the changes I'm suggesting.
Keep PTL or change up the EPT for something else?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/11/03 21:26:37
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/03 21:48:07
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Colonel
This Is Where the Fish Lives
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Falco wrote:Keep PTL or change up the EPT for something else?
Drop PTL, give him Veteran Instincts, R5-P9, and Autothrusters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/03 21:56:17
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Alright, how does this look?
+++ X-Wing Poe X (100pts) +++
++ Rebel (Standard) (100pts) ++
+ X-Wing (63pts) +
PS 2 - Rookie Pilot (21pts)
PS 2 - Rookie Pilot (21pts)
PS 2 - Rookie Pilot (21pts)
+ T-70 X-Wing (37pts) +
PS 8 - •Poe Dameron (37pts) [Autothrusters, Veteran Instincts, •R5-P9]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 00:58:38
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Is this going to be a new meta? One ace with a bunch of generics? Or was it very Wave 1?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 01:25:40
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
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Imo you should have just swapped weapons guidance for auto thrusters.
Ive played the **** out of Poe since his release, and find PTL + BB-8 a far better option than R5-P9
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 01:37:08
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Colonel
This Is Where the Fish Lives
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Mathieu Raymond wrote:Is this going to be a new meta? One ace with a bunch of generics? Or was it very Wave 1?
It's gone in and out of favor, but it's almost always been a thing. The runner up at Worlds last year used a Whisper + mini-TIE swarm list and the winner was a Fat Han + mini-Z-95 swarm
jokerkd wrote:Imo you should have just swapped weapons guidance for auto thrusters.
Ive played the **** out of Poe since his release, and find PTL + BB-8 a far better option than R5-P9
I've played it too and it is fun... until you have to fly against a PS 9 ace like Fel, Vader, Wedge, or Whisper. Higher PS and shield regeneration is better better in the end game than being out- PS'd and getting a barrel roll. It turns Poe into an end game monster nearly on the same level as Corran with R2-D2.
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d-usa wrote:"When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 01:46:37
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
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We both know it's more than just a barrel roll lol
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"If you wait a few months, they'll pick one of the worst codexes and they'll nerf almost everything, its an abstract sort of balance, but it's the sort of balance gw likes...  " |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 01:59:43
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Colonel
This Is Where the Fish Lives
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Those three actions (without evade) don't mean gak when you're getting arc dodged and can't regenerate shields.
Competitively, Poe with R5-P9 and VI will always be better than Poe with PTL and BB-8. Is the latter build more fun? Absolutely, multiple action shenanigans are always fun. However, getting a range 1 shot at an ace before it can fire back is even more fun.
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d-usa wrote:"When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 03:10:32
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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How about pairing that r5-P9 Poe with a PTL Corran, it leaves enough point for a Bandit. That's two strong ships and a fodder.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 07:22:05
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Douglas Bader
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ScootyPuffJunior wrote:Those three actions (without evade) don't mean gak when you're getting arc dodged and can't regenerate shields.
Exactly. Poe, even with BB-8 tricks, doesn't have the sheer pile of defensive tokens and PS 9+ arc dodging ability that Fel/Vader/etc depend on to survive. You've got one less green die and no evade action so those shots that Fel/Vader/etc avoid completely are going to be taking off precious HP that you can never get back. But with shield regen you bring your durability back up to the level of the other aces and actually have a chance of winning a long fight. It's why PTL Corran is so ridiculously good, after several turns of exchanging fire you're still at full HP and your opponent has lost another ship.
Mathieu Raymond wrote:How about pairing that r5-P9 Poe with a PTL Corran, it leaves enough point for a Bandit. That's two strong ships and a fodder.
I want to try this list whenever I get the new starter set. Poe with lone wolf, R5, autothrusters, and Corran with PTL, R2, FCS, engine. I've been having a lot of fun with Corran + Miranda, and the Corran + Poe version of the double regen ship concept looks like it might have some potential.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 13:16:34
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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If you use VI on Poe, then you have enough points left over for a Chaardan Prototype pilot. If not, then it has to be a Z-95.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 14:19:49
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Alrighty, I think this would be fun. I went with an A-Wing rather than a Z-95 because of the extra evade dice.
+++ X-Wing Poe Corran (100pts) +++
++ Rebel (Standard) (100pts) ++
+ A-Wing (15pts) +
PS 1 - Prototype Pilot (15pts) [Chardaan Refit]
+ E-Wing (48pts) +
PS 8 - •Corran Horn (48pts) [Shield Upgrade, Fire-Control System, Push the Limit, •R2-D2]
+ T-70 X-Wing (37pts) +
PS 8 - •Poe Dameron (37pts) [Autothrusters, Veteran Instincts, •R5-P9]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 19:51:19
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Douglas Bader
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Falco wrote:PS 8 - •Corran Horn (48pts) [Shield Upgrade, Fire-Control System, Push the Limit, •R2-D2]
The shield upgrade needs to be an engine upgrade.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 23:09:16
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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I agree. The extra mobility will be needed. R2-D2 refreshes shields, so have 4 is not as necessary. Automatically Appended Next Post: Ever thought about this? It's all about that focus!
Poe Dameron (31)
Veteran Instincts (1)
R5-P9 (3)
Autothrusters (2)
Jake Farrell (24)
Push the Limit (3)
Chardaan Refit (-2)
Outmaneuver (3)
Autothrusters (2)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)
Kyle Katarn (21)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Recon Specialist (3)
Moldy Crow (3)
Total: 100
View in Yet Another Squad Builder
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 05:07:53
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Colonel
This Is Where the Fish Lives
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Falco wrote:++ Rebel (Standard) (100pts) ++
+ A-Wing (15pts) +
PS 1 - Prototype Pilot (15pts) [Chardaan Refit]
+ E-Wing (48pts) +
PS 8 - •Corran Horn (48pts) [Shield Upgrade, Fire-Control System, Push the Limit, •R2-D2]
+ T-70 X-Wing (37pts) +
PS 8 - •Poe Dameron (37pts) [Autothrusters, Veteran Instincts, •R5-P9]
Someone is flying that list at Worlds on the Twitch stream right now.
Mathieu Raymond wrote:Ever thought about this? It's all about that focus!
Poe Dameron (31)
Veteran Instincts (1)
R5-P9 (3)
Autothrusters (2)
Jake Farrell (24)
Push the Limit (3)
Chardaan Refit (-2)
Outmaneuver (3)
Autothrusters (2)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)
Kyle Katarn (21)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Recon Specialist (3)
Moldy Crow (3)
Total: 100
View in Yet Another Squad Builder
Drop the title on Kyle and Outmaneuver on Jake. Use those points to give Jake Proton Rockets and Veteran Instincts instead. Jake at PS 7 is as good dead against other aces and a fully modified five dice Procket can ruin someone's day in a hurry.
Also, my friend uses this list to great effect. I did manage to beat him with my Moralo + two TLT Ys list, but it could have gone either way.
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d-usa wrote:"When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 05:09:23
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Ha! I was just going to post about the twitch stream.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 05:24:47
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Colonel
This Is Where the Fish Lives
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Falco wrote:Ha! I was just going to post about the twitch stream.
It's been good so far and it's keeping me entertained at work.
Also, that person flying the Poe/Corran list is 14 years old...!
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d-usa wrote:"When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 15:57:55
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Yes, mine when I fail to roll more than 2 hits.
I have become wary of any ordnance aside from bombs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 17:39:33
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Looks like Poe/Corran/Proto is on twitch again. Going against the 3K.
I also agree with you Mathieu, I dont like paying for a single use item on my ships. I like things that can be used multiple times.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 20:01:57
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Douglas Bader
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Falco wrote:I also agree with you Mathieu, I dont like paying for a single use item on my ships. I like things that can be used multiple times.
Normally this is a decent rule, but there are some exceptions* and prockets on a-wings are one of them. They're actually pretty consistent since you're throwing five dice with focus and target lock, and the a-wing desperately needs a way to hurt high-agility targets that its primary weapon can barely even annoy. Soontir Fel can mostly just ignore Tycho/Jake without prockets. Soontir Fel tends to explode in one shot when they have prockets.
*Bombs and the scum one-shot upgrades are the most common exceptions.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 20:48:02
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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The Poe/Corran/Proto is facing off against Paul Heaver right now for the world championship title.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 21:33:00
Subject: Your Thoughts on my Poe Squadron
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Colonel
This Is Where the Fish Lives
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Falco wrote:The Poe/Corran/Proto is facing off against Paul Heaver right now for the world championship title.
It was a great game and it was nice to see Paul win again. Paul is a local player in my area and luckily I've never had to face him in a tournament!
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d-usa wrote:"When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people." |
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