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 His Master's Voice wrote:
 flamingkillamajig wrote:
After 9/11 our attacks went down considerably whereas French ones seem to have escalated to ridiculous proportions. I always thought if anything the USA was their #1 enemy. Well maybe us and Israel but we're definitely near the top.


France has a large, poorly integrated Muslim community that both allows for local recruitment as well as help hide imported militants. The nature of France's location on the world map also makes the idea of watertight borders impossible. The US has this huge honking pond called the Atlantic to cover them.

Yeah, being an island is playing world history on easy mode.

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Uhh I mathed badly there. It should be 160,000.

I originally (when first posting the figure) did it to 1.6 million so 160 seemed 'ok' still bad but not as bad as it could be. 160,000 is a problem, I hope it's much, much, much less than that.


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 Iron_Captain wrote:
 His Master's Voice wrote:
 flamingkillamajig wrote:
After 9/11 our attacks went down considerably whereas French ones seem to have escalated to ridiculous proportions. I always thought if anything the USA was their #1 enemy. Well maybe us and Israel but we're definitely near the top.


France has a large, poorly integrated Muslim community that both allows for local recruitment as well as help hide imported militants. The nature of France's location on the world map also makes the idea of watertight borders impossible. The US has this huge honking pond called the Atlantic to cover them.

Yeah, being an island is playing world history on easy mode.


Yup. To my knowledge, the biggest immigrant problem the US has is Mexicans.

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My question: does that include the actual frontline fighters who are doing these things, or does that include supporting and associated people as well?

 
   
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 Torga_DW wrote:
My question: does that include the actual frontline fighters who are doing these things, or does that include supporting and associated people as well?


To be honest, I'm don't think that figure is even correct. But even the figure of terrorists that commit the attacks is just a small portion of the total number. It's usually the new recruits that commit the attacks, the higher ups draft in new recruits all the time and stay out of sight. I don't think Bin Laden was ever part of an attack despite being a prominent figure in Al-qaeda.

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 Frozocrone wrote:
 Torga_DW wrote:
My question: does that include the actual frontline fighters who are doing these things, or does that include supporting and associated people as well?


To be honest, I'm don't think that figure is even correct. But even the figure of terrorists that commit the attacks is just a small portion of the total number. It's usually the new recruits that commit the attacks, the higher ups draft in new recruits all the time and stay out of sight. I don't think Bin Laden was ever part of an attack despite being a prominent figure in Al-qaeda.


Leaders like being alive and being in charge so they are pretty good about finding somebody else to do the dangerous work and the dying.

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There has been a lot of intelligence activity in the UK reported in the press recently. A lot of arrests and some major plots foiled.

The Germans have also reported success foiling plots.

Why have the French been caught flat footed, again?

Border control can only be part of he answer, most terrorist threats are home grown. Besides the UK has rap border control.


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Yep. People like the above exist. How can they be so blind? So brazen? So un-self aware? So incapable of seeing how meaningless their nonsense campus safe space bull gak is in the face of such wholesale slaughter of innocent people.


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Now there are reports of over 120 dead, along with 5 dead attackers.

Terrible. Truly monstrous.


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Yep. People like the above exist. How can they be so blind? So brazen? So un-self aware? So incapable of seeing how meaningless their nonsense campus safe space bull gak is in the face of such wholesale slaughter of innocent people.



Fethers. Ship them over to Paris and force them to help some true victims.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
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Yep. People like the above exist. How can they be so blind? So brazen? So un-self aware? So incapable of seeing how meaningless their nonsense campus safe space bull gak is in the face of such wholesale slaughter of innocent people.



Likely fake accounts. #Mizzou is getting those by the dozen now that /pol/ is on the case.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Yep. People like the above exist. How can they be so blind? So brazen? So un-self aware? So incapable of seeing how meaningless their nonsense campus safe space bull gak is in the face of such wholesale slaughter of innocent people.


I'm embarrassed by my state's flagship school.

Those kids need a massive dose of perspective.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Yep. People like the above exist. How can they be so blind? So brazen? So un-self aware? So incapable of seeing how meaningless their nonsense campus safe space bull gak is in the face of such wholesale slaughter of innocent people.



Dear God I am at a loss for words. At least words that wouldn't get me perma-banned. More human garbage tweets

My heart goes out to the people of Paris. Stay safe and aim true.

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whembly wrote:
I'm embarrassed by my state's flagship school.

Those kids need a massive dose of perspective.


SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Dear God I am at a loss for words. At least words that wouldn't get me perma-banned. More human garbage tweets

My heart goes out to the people of Paris. Stay safe and aim true.


Again, very likely fakes, as reported by the University.

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Huh, so Mizzou is taking a page from Russia's playbook?

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 Iron_Captain wrote:
 His Master's Voice wrote:
 flamingkillamajig wrote:
After 9/11 our attacks went down considerably whereas French ones seem to have escalated to ridiculous proportions. I always thought if anything the USA was their #1 enemy. Well maybe us and Israel but we're definitely near the top.


France has a large, poorly integrated Muslim community that both allows for local recruitment as well as help hide imported militants. The nature of France's location on the world map also makes the idea of watertight borders impossible. The US has this huge honking pond called the Atlantic to cover them.

Yeah, being an island is playing world history on easy mode.


To an extent yes and to an extent no. Being isolated to an island can be rather tough as it means things have to cost a lot. Sure if you are an awesome naval power being stuck to an island for your home is nice but I can only imagine everything has to be imported.

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 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Huh, so Mizzou is taking a page from Russia's playbook?


Dunno. But, honestly, out of all the stupid tweets we might get caught up over, why give attention to those? Stupid attention-seeking students are stupid attention-seeking students. Talk about the call for civil war from #L'Identitaire or #Generation ID, and you might have a subject worth giving attention to.

Otherwise you are just feeding the /pol/-SJW love-hate circlejerk.

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 Kovnik Obama wrote:
 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Huh, so Mizzou is taking a page from Russia's playbook?



Otherwise you are just feeding the /pol/-SJW love-hate circlejerk.


Not a fan of that stuff either but that would be getting off topic and this is actual serious business rather than internet serious business. We should keep things to what's going on in france.

I do think I heard there was a tsunami in japan as well or similar but I will look into that later. Personally I don't care if security is stepped up in france to a ridiculous extent. For a few years it'll need it esp. starting today.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Spoiler:

Yep. People like the above exist. How can they be so blind? So brazen? So un-self aware? So incapable of seeing how meaningless their nonsense campus safe space bull gak is in the face of such wholesale slaughter of innocent people.

Because... first world problem? I look at these tweets as showing just how truly vapid these spoiled brats really are. I just hope the rest of my country does, too.

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 Orlanth wrote:
There has been a lot of intelligence activity in the UK reported in the press recently. A lot of arrests and some major plots foiled.

The Germans have also reported success foiling plots.

Why have the French been caught flat footed, again?



A man was planning an assault against the Toulon naval base, the authorities caught him on the 29th of October receiving help from a syrian djihadist. Perhaps they thought that was what was in the works?

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Did Hollande really say "we will wage war without ptiy"??

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 flamingkillamajig wrote:
 godardc wrote:
It's because France has hit them hard in africa ( Mali) and then attacked them again in iraqi (and very recently a litlle in Syria).
But France security is not "bad" or "lax",it is in fact a really good one, avoiding a lot of attacks from years.
But you can't watch after everyone everytime, especially when there are more and more guys to watch after...


True but you don't see the usa getting hit this badly anymore. After 9/11 our attacks went down considerably whereas French ones seem to have escalated to ridiculous proportions. I always thought if anything the USA was their #1 enemy. Well maybe us and Israel but we're definitely near the top.


No, here in the US it seems we are just content with killing each other.

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 whembly wrote:
Did Hollande really say "we will wage war without ptiy"??


He did, and it's going to be interesting to see what he means by that. A lot of people are speculating about French boots hitting the ground in Syria and Iraq, but that's realistically not going to happen without an Article 5 invocation, because while France has one of Europe's few expeditionary militaries, it doesn't have the logistics to support it. Which means they need our logistical assets to make something like that happen, at the very least.
   
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Seaward wrote:
 whembly wrote:
Did Hollande really say "we will wage war without ptiy"??


He did, and it's going to be interesting to see what he means by that. A lot of people are speculating about French boots hitting the ground in Syria and Iraq, but that's realistically not going to happen without an Article 5 invocation, because while France has one of Europe's few expeditionary militaries, it doesn't have the logistics to support it. Which means they need our logistical assets to make something like that happen, at the very least.


Can that process happen without an actual country being involved in the attack?

Article 5 was invoked after 9/11, but we also had Afghanistan as an actual country giving support to AQ. So if this was ISIS can it be invoked on them as an organization, or is that something that has be done against a country? Honestly have no idea there.
   
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 d-usa wrote:
Can that process happen without an actual country being involved in the attack?

Article 5 was invoked after 9/11, but we also had Afghanistan as an actual country giving support to AQ. So if this was ISIS can it be invoked on them as an organization, or is that something that has be done against a country? Honestly have no idea there.


I don't see why it couldn't. It doesn't require a state actor as the target, to the best of my knowledge.
   
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Seaward wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
Can that process happen without an actual country being involved in the attack?

Article 5 was invoked after 9/11, but we also had Afghanistan as an actual country giving support to AQ. So if this was ISIS can it be invoked on them as an organization, or is that something that has be done against a country? Honestly have no idea there.


I don't see why it couldn't. It doesn't require a state actor as the target, to the best of my knowledge.


I figured you would be more knowledgeable about that than me, thanks for the reply.

Based on my knowledge gained by reading Wikipedia it seems like the main factor is an armed attack against a member state, but it seems pretty vague about who or where that attack came from. So I didn't know if there was more to it than that.

Edit:

I never realized that the actual North Atlantic Treaty is pretty short and dry. I'm sure there are lots of rules and regulations somewhere, but the actual treaty (including Article 5) is really not very complex.

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Damn, RIP looking at the coverage on CNN Japan. They are saying 153 total deaths shocked

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 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Damn, RIP looking at the coverage on CNN Japan. They are saying 153 total deaths shocked


CNN is inflating the number. Heard there was a Tsunami in Japan. Are you guys alright ?

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