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So apparently I can't use master of Mechanicus on an Imperial Knight, and the same thing with uncreator gauntlet, because independent characters can't move within 2 inches of a Knight? Is this right? If it isn't can someone point me to a rule that says otherwise

I'm assuming that "Master of Mechanicus" is something like the "Blessings of the Omnissiah" repair ability - one of those things that require base to base contact in order to give some kind of benefit (e.g. repairing). EDIT: Yep, it's called "Master of Machines" and is just a more reliable "Blessings of the Omnissiah".
If so, yes, you're quite right. You must be in base to base contact with something*, you can't be in base to base contact with them unless you're in their unit (which you can't be) or in an assault (which would be unlikely). GW writers do sometimes make rules without understanding that the core mechanics prevent them from functioning. If it's anything like Blessings of the Omnissiah, though, nobody would bat an eyelid if you went with the RAI.

For another mention of the Uncreator Gauntlet (and possibly another example of GW not understanding their own rules), see the recent thread.

*Exception: it works when you're embarked in a vehicle.

Why can't you go within 2" of a knight?

DaPino wrote:
Why can't you go within 2" of a knight?

Independent Characters, Joining and leaving units, BRB wrote:If an Independent Character does not intend to (or cannot) join a unit, it must (where possible) remain more than 2'' away from it at the end of the Movement phase.

Yeah, this is a strict RAW issue for rules that are clearly intended to work against the RAW.

Your opponent really shouldn't have an issue with playing per the clear RAI, and if they do, then you may wish to reconsider your choice of opponent...

Lol I just played a guy who did bat an eye any wouldn't let me use either, and everything I've read implied that I could so I was very annoyed, especially as the IK went and blew up half my army next turn lulz


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Ha-ha yea I think I will have to reconsider it a little more the games get a bit tedious


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I feel like RAI you should be able to hit your own vehicle outside of combat

The IC must remain more than 2" away. This means the knight can move in...

nosferatu1001 wrote:
The IC must remain more than 2" away. This means the knight can move in...

Very true.. If someone is being so stubborn as to play on words, use it against them as well

Yes! Ok thank you guys

That's an excellent idea, Nosferatu1001. Exalted!

Like wise do you think the uncreator gauntlet works the same? In the fight subphase could just mean when he can, it doesn't say he has to be in CC

marcman wrote:
Like wise do you think the uncreator gauntlet works the same? In the fight subphase could just mean when he can, it doesn't say he has to be in CC

To reach the thread regarding that, click here.