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So in a couple months when I go home, I am going to bring back my High Elves with me. I have 80 metal White Lions of Chrace, 20 Ellyrian Reavers with metal riders, 20 Dragon Princes with metal riders, 20 metal Shadow Warriors, the original Teclis sculpt, the original Everqueen, both new and old scuplts of Korhil, Caradryan, the limited edition army standard, Alith Anar and six of the original Eagle Claw Bolt Throwers.

I had stripped everything and bought new horses for the cavalry in preparation for repainting them a couple years ago. What I can fit in a standard GW Figure Case and plan to use for Age of Sigmar is this:

Teclis
Alarielle
Army Standard
Alith Anar
Korhil
Korhil
40 White Lions
20 Dragon Princes
20 Shadow Warriors
10 Ellyrian Reavers
2 Bolt Throwers

It won't be used all at the same time, and our group is going to use Azyr Comp.

But Iwas wondering if it would be cheesy to use both scuplts of Korhil as Korhil, I love both of the scuplts, and I know I could just alternate use of them each game. But I was thinking of a backstory like when Slaanash released the Aelfs from his/her gullet and they were brought into Sigmar's realm, each of Korhil's axes saved a portion of his personality. When freed from Slaanash, the axes had caused Korhil to be reborn twice, essentially making them twins like Teclis and Tyrion... Just identical.

I have every sculpt of the different Skaven characters, and often run two or three of the same special character at a time. I find in general the named characters just aren't over the top powerful compared to the general hero class of models.

I'd watch out for AoE special rules and make sure that doesn't factor in. I haven't read the Aelf Warscrolls, but I know a lot of characters have bonuses to nearby units, so I'd just make sure you can't give double bonuses.

Yes.

It's not in the spirit of the game.

Named characters, absolutely. I know the rules don't say you can't but there can only be one of a named character.

Unnamed characters like the stromcast on dracolith? Sure, you can take multiple of him.

I think it's fine when generic heroes have been rolled into a named character's warscroll. For example "warrior priest on horse" uses the warscroll of Luther Huss. I'm not going to have a problem if mechanically Luther Huss is being fielded multiple times because you have 2 generic warrior priests on horse.

When you want to field two Nagash, we run into problems. Can you not field one Korhill as a generic hero?

I dunno, one of the selling points of AoS is bring what you want. I even like the fluff behind why you would have two Korhill, I'd say go for it.

There's plenty of giant and monstrous creatures that aren't unique that can break the game, I really wouldn't sweat taking two Named characters.

AoS being AoS, that's really a discussion to have with your opponent. If they think it's wrong or unfluffy or too powerful, then I'd skip on bringing two.

Korhil buffs nearby White Lion units with his ability so I would consider fielding him twice to be in poor taste and pretty unfair. I would have no problem with you using one model as Korhil himself and the other as the leader of the White Lion unit (ie the unit "Sargent")

I wouldn't consider it cheesy so much as a bit mentally jarring, narrative-wise. Eh, I'd just think of one guy as the clone or something.

Rules wise there is nothing stopping you doing it, and if people disagree with what you are fielding in AoS I have it on good authority you just don't play.

Fluff wise it would make more sense to use the model and rules for a pair of twins rather than the actual named character imo.

AoS has little rules to begin with... Why even take into account the rules that do exist?? Mind if I bring my two Teclis models as Teclis?

It's his magical clone thing - it's completely narrative and fluffy!

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
AoS has little rules to begin with... Why even take into account the rules that do exist?? Mind if I bring my two Teclis models as Teclis?

It's his magical clone thing - it's completely narrative and fluffy!

Hell, if the realms are truly infinite in size (which I do believe the are supposed to be right?) then there is a 100% chance there is a second Teclis out there somewhere. In fact there is an equally high chance there are dozens of him across multiple realms of infinite size.

 jonolikespie wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
AoS has little rules to begin with... Why even take into account the rules that do exist?? Mind if I bring my two Teclis models as Teclis?

It's his magical clone thing - it's completely narrative and fluffy!

Hell, if the realms are truly infinite in size (which I do believe the are supposed to be right?) then there is a 100% chance there is a second Teclis out there somewhere. In fact there is an equally high chance there are dozens of him across multiple realms of infinite size.

Beautiful!

 jonolikespie wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
AoS has little rules to begin with... Why even take into account the rules that do exist?? Mind if I bring my two Teclis models as Teclis?

It's his magical clone thing - it's completely narrative and fluffy!

Hell, if the realms are truly infinite in size (which I do believe the are supposed to be right?) then there is a 100% chance there is a second Teclis out there somewhere. In fact there is an equally high chance there are dozens of him across multiple realms of infinite size.

If the realms are infinite there are infinite numbers of Teclises too..

Have we all been fooled for months now?

Is AoS not really a fantasy setting but rather a sifi one focusing on theoretical physics?

Incoming Shrodinger's Korhil.

 jonolikespie wrote:

Hell, if the realms are truly infinite in size (which I do believe the are supposed to be right?) then there is a 100% chance there is a second Teclis out there somewhere. In fact there is an equally high chance there are dozens of him across multiple realms of infinite size.

Yeah, I have been thinking about this for a little while now...

If the Realms truly are infinite, then somewhere out there the pre-End Times Old World exists...

 jonolikespie wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
AoS has little rules to begin with... Why even take into account the rules that do exist?? Mind if I bring my two Teclis models as Teclis?

It's his magical clone thing - it's completely narrative and fluffy!

Hell, if the realms are truly infinite in size (which I do believe the are supposed to be right?) then there is a 100% chance there is a second Teclis out there somewhere. In fact there is an equally high chance there are dozens of him across multiple realms of infinite size.

In that case there is also one where he is made entirely of pudding.

and a realm of nothing but shrimp!

it's a very boring realm.

On a serious note, I picture AoS background as basically the Marvel expanded universe, just with no earth and no super hero teams.

Back on topic, If he does buff nearby units then yeah, your opponent is likely not gonna be happy. you could always use both and ignore the buff for one of the models.

The basic point is that if it looks like you've chosen two of the same special character for some kind of advantage that you wouldn't have got with two different special characters who 'cost*' the same but have different abilities, then it looks like cheese.

Why not just use one of the miniatures as a different, generic hero?

"This here is Korhil, Hunter-Captain of the White Lions, and next to him is his younger brother Steve, Hunter-Lieutenant of the White Lions. Yeah... he was always the underachiever. The little runt."

 Kilkrazy wrote:
The basic point is that if it looks like you've chosen two of the same special character for some kind of advantage that you wouldn't have got with two different special characters who 'cost*' the same but have different abilities, then it looks like cheese.

I'm perplexed by this point of view! there are no costs in AoS. if he wants to bring two special characters, I'll just put out another counter. Skaven have a ton of special characters, I can just bring them all. or not if my opponent doesn't have a counter. especially when OP clearly stated he wanted to use two different sculpts for the same model, and not for a game-winning advantage. (of which there are none anyway in AoS.)

This isn't really my hill to die on, I'm just really curious why there's a difference between bringing two Korhils, or two Bloodthirsters. two bloodthirsters would give a much higher advantage, and both are equal in the rules. (they both count as one model.)

A better example would be bringing Tyrion and Teclis, or two Korhils. I'd rather fight the twin Korhils then Tyrion and Teclis, they are far stronger in the game.

The OP asked a serious question and he deserves a serious answer.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
The OP asked a serious question and he deserves a serious answer.

I was giving a serious answer. I often run two Ikit Klaws, two Queek Headtakers, and two Deathmaster Snitch as I said in my first post. (not all at once obviously.)

I've never had anyone question it, no one has had a problem with it. I was excited for the same reason he was, I get to use older sculpts along side the newer ones.

first paragraph in the rules
"Armies can be as big as you like, and you can use as many models from from your collection as you wish."

That is the entirety of point cost and army comp as provided by GW, so I would say that if his opponent is ok with it then it's fine.

And if the opponent isn't okay with it, it isn't fine.

well yeah, at that point it becomes the "black list" method of balacing AoS.

We should probably have a thread that goes over all the unwritten rules of AoS that can get someone blacklisted. I'm honestly surprised this is one of them.

 pox wrote:
well yeah, at that point it becomes the "black list" method of balacing AoS.

We should probably have a thread that goes over all the unwritten rules of AoS that can get someone blacklisted. I'm honestly surprised this is one of them.

There's only one: if your opponent isn't okay with it, there's no game.

 Sigvatr wrote:

 pox wrote:
well yeah, at that point it becomes the "black list" method of balacing AoS.

We should probably have a thread that goes over all the unwritten rules of AoS that can get someone blacklisted. I'm honestly surprised this is one of them.

There's only one: if your opponent isn't okay with it, there's no game.

Well, good thing I didn't make that thread then!

I think that as an experiment, next time I play I'm just going to bring a variety of models, and have my opponent choose what I field. That's kinda what its come to, hasn't it?

 pox wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 pox wrote:
well yeah, at that point it becomes the "black list" method of balacing AoS.

We should probably have a thread that goes over all the unwritten rules of AoS that can get someone blacklisted. I'm honestly surprised this is one of them.

There's only one: if your opponent isn't okay with it, there's no game.

Well, good thing I didn't make that thread then!

I think that as an experiment, next time I play I'm just going to bring a variety of models, and have my opponent choose what I field. That's kinda what its come to, hasn't it?

That is a way of putting how AoS "balancing" works, extreme as it might sound.

you know, the idea actually has merit. Just trade sides while deploying, so each player is pulling from a pool of models they have to face, rather then what they have to use.

due to the wild nature of AoS, I usually bring two or three different forces, my opponent could just pull form it and face what they like.

I'm off topic though, sorry!

It is like is the traditional way of dividing up a cake when you are children. I cut the cake in two and you choose which slice you will have. This ensures I will make the division as fair as possible.

AoS is a bit more like dividing a packet of biscuits. I take one, you take one, I take one, you take one, I take one, you decide you have got enough and I take another three.