Deathwatch Overkill (Deathwatch vs Genestealer cult board game) - 40k rules, free download pg1

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**Kid_Kyoto**

I figure 80% chance 'genestealer cult' means existing chaos cultists and genestealers vs a Sternguard sprue with the only new sprue being some DW shoulder pads.

That being said...

**Vorian**

Hastings said they'd receive a full kit release (like Calth will) and will both have Harlequin sized books.

So, the proper stuff, if he's right... and I've remembered properly

**Warhams-77**

@Vorian No he did correct that - it is a boardgame first and foremost

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Hastings - Warseer

Anyone here remember the little guessing game we had about releases?

[... Warseer is offline - he refers to his original rumors from Feb 2015...]

Most of it can be found here.......

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?405659-Plastic-(GW-produced)-Warhammer-30K&p=7385826#post7385826

So you'll see in there the assassins game (correct)
HH Game (I guess time will tell )

... and amongst the other stuff....

G/S Cult Codex & Models (Harlequin sized release)
Deathwatch Codex & Models (Harlequin sized release)

..... well, I may have gotten myself a bit confused about what these actually were, it seems we "may" be seeing these two as a combined set in some fashion, whether that's as another standalone game or as a "starter/campaign" set is yet unclear, although I'm going to assume that these would be unusual choices for a starter box.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?408544-I-quot-might-quot-be-wrong

**catharsix**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I figure 80% chance 'genestealer cult' means existing chaos cultists and genestealers vs a Sternguard sprue with the only new sprue being some DW shoulder pads.

That being said...

Your supposition sounds like the most likely scenario to me as well, but like you, we all want to believe, Mr. Vice-Principal...

-C6 aka 広島先生

**Kid_Kyoto**

When were you in Hiroshima?

**Vorian**

Ah, still, pretty clearly new stuff according to Hastings - he's just unsure of how exactly they'll come

**Mymearan**

Sad Panda wrote:
Yodhrin wrote:
Sad Panda wrote:
guru wrote:
Deathwach vs genestealer cult game

You don't have to wait till May for that one.

WhhhhhhaaaAAAAT?

Come on Panda, you can't drop the mic and walk off after that one, tell us more...

Hmmmm...

Deathwatch miniatures in the boxed game are all mono-pose characters (think Space Hulk, except with normal bases). Sternguard rumors are nonsense. One is possibly the first dedicated Blood Ravens mini by GW (feel free to correct me there. My GW-history-fu is weak)?

Lots of cultists, a few pure genestealers, another new broodlord.

Multi-part kits later this year.

Someone should update the title and OP with this and his "before May" comment.

**Bottle**

Excited now with Sad Panda's comment!!

Edit: unless it means the cultists are the DV ones!? I'm here for cool Genestealer cultist models.

**Nevelon**

I’m actually a little less excited.

While I have faith in GW’s ability to make some nice mono-pose deathwatch marines, I would have preferred a full multi-pose kit, so I could make my squad. Depending what they look like, I might pick them up anyway.

I assume the multi-pose later in the year comment refers to the non-marine parts of the box.

Would love to be wrong with that assumption. If it’s a multi-pose deathwatch later in the year, I’ll grab that no question.

**aka_mythos**

Not monopose! I'm gonna cross my fingers and hope they're not true monopose but the pseudo monopose in the same sort of way some of the blister pact characters have been with separate shoulder pad and similar bits loose.

**Swampmist**

aka_mythos wrote:
not monopose!

Panda just said they'll be monopose till later this year.

**Warhams-77**

The Deathwatch minis are like the Space Hulk ones according to Sad Panda. And these have character, good poses and are pretty interesting for 'monopose' models. This could be a good thing

**El Torro**

The current Broodlord is In the Last Chance to Buy section of the U.K. GW website. Hopefully that means the release is imminent, with an updated Broodlord to go with it.

**Nicky J**

El Torro wrote:
The current Broodlord is In the Last Chance to Buy section of the U.K. GW website. Hopefully that means the release is imminent, with an updated Broodlord to go with it.

Should think it's more likely a sign that the broodlord from the shield of Baal box set will be getting a separate blister pack release a la captain karlaen

**Kid_Kyoto**

title changed

**Yaraton**

Bottle wrote:
Excited now with Sad Panda's comment!!

Edit: unless it means the cultists are the DV ones!? I'm here for cool Genestealer cultist models.

He later clarifies down in the comments they are new.

**H.B.M.C.**

There better be Hybrids. If it's just generic cultists and some Genestealers that won't be much fun.

**Sinful Hero**

Not a fan of the super-sized Broodlords, but I suppose it's still better than the Apocalypse Now 'lord.

I'm just curious what cultists would bring to a Tyranids army- we already have cheap cannon fodder in droves.

Dare I hope?!

Spoiler:

**Vorian**

Panda confirmed they were hybrids later in that same thread

**Warhams-77**

Sad Panda wrote:
Warhams-77 wrote:
Awesome, thanks for providing more info, Sad Panda! By cultists you mean hybrids? Humanoids with 2-4 arms and weapons?

Yes.

No info on rules. Sorry.

Thanks for changing the title, KK

**El Torro**

Sinful Hero wrote:
I'm just curious what cultists would bring to a Tyranids army- we already have cheap cannon fodder in droves.

Good question, I've been wondering the same thing. My hope is that Cultists can load up on heavy weapons, preferably at BS3. That should differentiate them enough from gaunts.

I'm not too fussed about the Cult Limousine making a comeback. Heresy, I know...

**Tyran**

Sinful Hero wrote:
Not a fan of the super-sized Broodlords, but I suppose it's still better than the Apocalypse Now 'lord.

I'm just curious what cultists would bring to a Tyranids army- we already have cheap cannon fodder in droves.

Dare I hope?!

Spoiler:

Depends of the scale of the infestation, Genestealers cults have subverted PDF before, which means heavy weaponry and vehicles.

**H.B.M.C.**

Sinful Hero wrote:
I'm just curious what cultists would bring to a Tyranids army...

Hopefully nothing. The Tyrandis eat Genestealer Cults as readily as they eat everything else. They may be related but they're far from allies.

**Tyran**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Sinful Hero wrote:
I'm just curious what cultists would bring to a Tyranids army...

Hopefully nothing. The Tyrandis eat Genestealer Cults as readily as they eat everything else. They may be related but they're far from allies.

Allies? no, but Genestealer Cults are pawns of the Hive Mind. Cultists are part of the Genestealer brood mind, which in turn is part of the Tyranid Hive Mind.

**guru**

WD 124

Genestealers are effectively the heralds of Tyranid invasions, because the psychic power of the Patriarch shines like a beacon in the Warp and is perceived by the Hive Fleets of the Tyranids. As the cult's power grows over the world, the beacon becomes stronger, signaling to the Tyranids the location of a biologically rich world. By the time the Hive Fleets arrive, the world may already be completely in the hands of the genestealer cult, or torn apart by civil war between the cult and the remaining free society, or at least weakened and rife with traitors. However, after the planet comes to the Hive Fleet's notice, the destiny of the cult is sealed, because all surviving members are absorbed like the rest of the planet

**Sinful Hero**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Sinful Hero wrote:
I'm just curious what cultists would bring to a Tyranids army...

Hopefully nothing. The Tyrandis eat Genestealer Cults as readily as they eat everything else. They may be related but they're far from allies.

Are Broodlords and Genestealers not literally Tyranids? I'm going off the assumption that Genestealers Cults will be an allied force for Tyranid armies in the same vein as the Harlequin release. Especially if the kits are going to be sold separately at retail as Sad Panda insinuated.

**H.B.M.C.**

The Genestealers, yes, but not the Hybrids or Brood Brothers. They're not Tyranids, and would be devoured like everyone else. They just won't put up a resistance.

**Tyran**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Genestealers, yes, but not the Hybrids or Brood Brothers. They're not Tyranids, and would be devoured like everyone else. They just won't put up a resistance.

Tyranids also are devoured like everyone else.

**H.B.M.C.**

At the end, yes, but I don't think that you're going to see Hormagaunts running into battle supported by a PDF Leman Russ squadron.

**Vorian**

It's going to be interesting to see how the old background is changed to incorporate broodlords. I wonder if patriarchs will survive