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I picked up a starviper and an M3-A, and am considering picking up another one, I found a neat idea to make them really hard to hit and deal some damage back.

Guri-Virago, stealth device, bodyguard, fire-control system, glitterstim-40

Laetin A'shera-Heavy Scyk, Stealth Device, Mangler Cannon-27

Serissu-Heavy Scyk, Stealth Device, Outmaneuver, Mangler Cannon-32

99 points, probably getting me initiative.

They're all pretty flimsy ships for just having 3 ships, but they all have 4 agility base to start, Guri and Laetin can reroll a die, and Laetin himself is gonna have evade on lock. The formation will be Serissu in back, Guri and Laetin in front in a triangle probably, all just within 1. Guri is especially tanky with glitterstim, and she can focus every round to give Serissu an evade I think it's gonna be hard to make anything stick on these guys. I could probably fit in 2 heavy scyks instead of laetin if I drop all the stealth devices and some other upgrades but I feel like 3 ships that are really hard to hit syncs up with the build a bit better. Plus I don't think I want to buy more than 2 Scyks. What do you guys think?

Save your money and cut your losses at one Scyk. They are the only ship inn the game which I consider irredeemable. You've basically got something with all the durability of an Interceptor, with none of the interceptors maneuverability. The moment you take even one hit your's Scyks are as good as dead, as they will lose their stealth device, their shield, and L'aetin will not recover evades. Your damage output is nowhere near significant enough to force losses on your opponent at an equal rate. Any competent arc dodger will eat your list alive.

Guri's PS is also about 4 points below what she wants to have. You are then using her to support your weaker, cheaper Scyks.

The problem with this list (and lists like it) is that it's a house of cards. If anything goes wrong your plan collapses and you get wiped off the table. And there are so many things that can go wrong when you're relying on 3 HP ships.

Ya thought it might be fun to play though and where else in this game can you get a 20 point Mangler cannon?? Lol. What would either of you running these with? Just plain? They seem kinda lackluster that way. But they are pretty cheap.

I wouldn't use the Scyk at all. It's just a bad ship, way too fragile without any of the sheer maneuverability or defensive token stacking that lets TIE interceptors get away with being glass cannons.

I tend to find that the best thing to take a Scyk with is the Flechette or Ion cannon - they're really cheap (especially the flechette cannon) and work at all ranges.

Yes, they cap at one damage but with only 3 dice it's not all that often you get multiple hits through, and ion/stress tokens are quite efficient things to have.

Guri is nice, but she's not actually a good use for Bodyguard - despite being the individual on the card art. Guri's Starviper is the best fighter you've got on the field and the one you want to be doing the heavy lifting with. The rest of the squad is there to protect her, not the other way around.

Serissu is cool. But (since she doesn't protect herself) the trick is that she's an expendable bodyguard for something with decent agility.

If she hasn't taken a Heavy Scyk mod, you can take her with Draw Their Fire for the right side of 20 points. Having her fly wing with something valuable, you can draw a turn's worth of fire off it.

The thing to remember about her: She's not Howlrunner.

What I mean by that:

~ Howlrunner gives a 1-die reroll to attacks. Her value is directly proportional to the number of primary weapon attacks originating within range 1 of her. Hence - the TIE swarm.

~ Serissu gives a 1-die reroll to defence. Her value is directly proportional to the number of attacks aimed within range 1 of her. Therefore it doesn't matter how many ship's she's protecting - it's arguably better to have her escorting one, really important ship than a swarm where she's the obvious linchpin.

Imagine Serissu flying wing on Boba Fett. I really, really want to kill the Mandalorian before he gets in close and his pilot ability makes him annoying, but if I shoot at him, serissu's pilot ability plus draw their fire makes it a wasted exercise.

So I end up firing at a TIE fighter with delusions of grandeur instead.

Scyks are just bad, accept it and move on, sticking pretty fairylight upgrades on them doesn't help as you end up paying 20 odd points for a ship that a base Cartel Marauder will outperform in nearly every case

I flew a similar list awhile back. It's fun to fly, sure, but if the dice hadn't been heavily in my favor that game I wouldn't have gotten nearly as far as I did.

The only time I use Scyks is when I want to run Tansari Point Veterans with PTL and HLCs. Then I throw in Latts Razzi for reducing my opponents agility, and it has some punch.

But otherwise, the Scyk is a bit too expensive for what you get.

I see, thanks for the input guys I might try that Serissu with Boba idea. Maybe do something silly like Tactical Jammers on Boba with Serissu behind him to make her a bit tougher to kill.

 Nalydyn wrote:
I see, thanks for the input guys I might try that Serissu with Boba idea. Maybe do something silly like Tactical Jammers on Boba with Serissu behind him to make her a bit tougher to kill.

Why bother keeping Serrisu Alive? Any shooting that she draws is not going at the main threat (Boba), who she buffs up. Either your opponent shoots at Boba first, in which case there is no need to put protection on Serrisu, or they shoot the Bothan first, so you aren't taking fire on your win condition. Either way, investing in your main ship beats investing in a support ship.

Ya but its one point to keep my support alive. I suppose engine upgrade would be worth it, but Boba gets really expensive when you start piling on the upgrades.

 Nalydyn wrote:
Ya but its one point to keep my support alive. I suppose engine upgrade would be worth it, but Boba gets really expensive when you start piling on the upgrades.

You get what you pay for.

Well this can also work for fun if you want. I was going to run it in a tournament last week but had to many reservations about it, so ran Guri, Serissu, and Torkil Mux instead. The reasons for not running it was it was to much a house of cards, lose 1 of them and it can quickly crumble into dust.

IG-88B (36)
Veteran Instincts (1)
"Mangler" Cannon (4)
Tactical Jammer (1)

Serissu (20)
Swarm Tactics (2)
Flechette Cannon (2)
Stealth Device (3)
"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)
Bodyguard (2)
Ion Cannon (3)
Stealth Device (3)
"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Total: 98

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That's a cool list, but Torkil and the starviper is probably better, you're right.

So I came up with this but I don't think it'sparticularly competitive.

Serissu(20)

Guri-Bodyguard(32)

Boba Fett-Autoblaster, engine upgrade(48)

100 pts

I mean sure, it makes Boba nigh unkillable, but the two ships supporting him are kinda flimsy in exchange. Unless I use Guri's ability on serissu, but then the starviper is going down. I could take flechette instead on Boba and put a stealth device on serissu to keep her alive... Or guri instead. She'd probably be more worth it.

EDIT: Nevermind, instead I'll take. Ion Cannon and autothrusters on Guri. That's much better.

I only use the Syk when playing newer players who are learning how to play beyond the base set, or they are testing newer builds. This is the list I run with the Syk:

Palob Godalhi: Predator, Twin Laser Turret, Shield upgrade, recon Specialist, Glitterstem

Tansarii Point Vet: Opportunist, stealth device, title, ion cannon

Tansarii Point Vet: Opportunist, stealth device, title, Heavy Laser cannon

I rarely expect to win, but, when I do, it feels good. Three PS5 ships usually shouldn't win against any aces. I know this isn't the best list, as I said, just a fun list to run.

That's an interesting build. You're right about it not being very competitive but it has a decent alpha strike and is decently hard to kill.

I think sticking with 1 Scyk is what I'm gonna do for sure though. I think the ability from Serissu is about all I'd use it for. They're just more expensive TIEs. and I guess having a shield over a hull is better but it's not THAT much better...

At this point, the only ships I don't have are the Scyk and Hound's Tooth. Hound's Tooth is on my wish list... but I don't think that there is anything I'd ever want or need in the Scyk kit. I have Mangler Cannons from the IG-2000's I've bought.

Yeah, the Scyk is the kinda Dead on Arrival. FFG really dropped the ball there.

 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:
Yeah, the Scyk is the kinda Dead on Arrival. FFG really dropped the ball there.

Sadly yes... I have a lot of nostalgia for the Scyk due to Star Wars Galaxies... I remember flying that POS around because I still wasn't sure what faction I wanted to be. I knew I wanted to be Imperial as soon as I saw the VT-49!

 easypeasylemonsquezy wrote:

 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:
Yeah, the Scyk is the kinda Dead on Arrival. FFG really dropped the ball there.

Sadly yes... I have a lot of nostalgia for the Scyk due to Star Wars Galaxies... I remember flying that POS around because I still wasn't sure what faction I wanted to be. I knew I wanted to be Imperial as soon as I saw the VT-49!

Yeah, i wish the title had been free. Would have given the Scyk a nice roll as a dirt-cheap cannon porter.

Ya maybe they'll release a fix. They did with the A-wing, and the TIE interceptor. If I was them I'd go with

Title:Scyk customization-you may take 2 title cards, and any cannon, missile, or Torpedo upgrade you take has its points cost reduced by 2(minimum 0)

Or just rewrite the title to be 0 points as it should have been to begin with, and release it in a new box set. Like Most awanted but maybe with like, a Starviper and 2 scyks, or 1 each of a kirahzx and a scyk. Would make getting into Scum real easy.

I like the discount on cannons. Perhaps they will errata the title to read "Your upgrade bar gains the Cannon, Torpedoes or Missiles upgrade icon. If you equip a Cannon, Torpedoes or Missles upgrade, its squad point cost is reduced by 3 (to a minimum of 0)."

They have shown that they will not errata squad points directly... but they might errata the title.

I think the Scyk was a mis-calculation all round, the base ship should have been 12, the upgrade should have been free and maybe even traded an agility for a hullpoint , representing the 'heavying' up

I just hope they don't do it through a massive ship set..... "cough" Imperial Raider....

But then again! "oooo preeetty massive scum ship that I'll never use", is what I'll think then directly add it to my wishlist/cart.... sigh

Heh I know your pain Easypeasy.